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[Garmr]

I think I did a pretty good push on you myself . Your reaction to one vote on you is pretty defensive as well with out actually trying to debunk any my reasons. Trying to intimidate me off a vote isn't going to work.

[fferyllt]

Vote: Maestro

[notscience]

I'm not trying to intimidate you, I'm trying to sort you.

Why?

Noone votes obvtown except badtown or scum.

[Garmr]

Your not obvious town through that's the thing. How can you think of yourself as obvious town you haven't proven otherwise.

[notscience]

I am obvious town.

But nice try though.

The second half of that post made 0 sense.

[Garmr]

I will reword it into dot points for you what was in my post
1.Makes an effort to claim they are obvious town
2.Post 30 and 33 seem to imply Brian is townish still votes him 35 with the reason being hmm.
3.Claim smudger is scum when he mentions how early your scum read is in 53. I personally wouldn't pick this as scum point
4.In fact 53 was another vote with out a reason
5.In my post I had aeronaught as null read at the time.


Now we can also add in defensive about having one vote on you which makes a total of 5 scum points and me having a null read on aeronaught.

[notscience]

1) "claim" implies it isn't true
2) I found him to be town, but my townread convinced me otherwise.
3) lolwut, he called me out for having reads without saying as to which alignment it made me.
4) lol
5) lolidc

[Garmr]

@Notscience
1.Seriously it isn't true your not obvious town no one is at this point.
2. You never mentioned that
3. You called someone out for being scum with no reason at all
4. No defence here i see or will you just sheep it.
5.I don't care that you don't care that was just listing the content of my posts. Contents something your posts lack

@Everyone else that isn't notscience

For people who played with him before. Does he always play like a VI or is this scum notscience.

[fferyllt]

this looks like boring as fuck t v t to me. :/

notscience has been messing with his style a little. I'm calling him town.

[Garmr]

I hate being messed with hmpph.

[SpyreX]

I'm developing a crush on ffery. This exchange looks very tvt.

Aero's replacing is legit, but that doesn't change anything about the deal.

[pitoli]

There is nothing quite so good as burial at sea. It is simple, tidy, and not very incriminating.
~ Alfred Hitchcock

VOTE COUNT 1.4

Maestro:

fferyllt

notscience:

Garmr

Aeronaut:

notscience, YYR, Kazekirimaru, Smudger

(L-3)

Brian Skies:

ChannelDelibird, CrashTextDummie, Aeronaut

Garmr:

Brian Skies

Not Voting:

SpyreX, Maestro, Plum

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Time until deadline: (expired on 2013-10-17 00:00:00)

Mod Notes

: Plum returns from V/LA today.

[pitoli]

SleepyKrew replaces Aeronaut effective immediately.

Aeronaut, good luck with your real life responsibilities!!

[SleepyKrew]

Hi
UNVOTE:
Gimme a few hours to grab my flippyfloppies

[Kazekirimaru]

Bah. Replace outs are null. Hm.

Still not sure on ns. He's too involved. He generally doesn't get srs bsnz this point in the game unless he's scum. Also his content isn't consistent with either his town or scum meta. D:

[notscience]

It's almost as if I'm trying to change my meta!

[Kazekirimaru]

Baka.

[pitoli]

Brian Skies and YYR are being prodded.

[Brian Skies]

At this point, I do kind of believe the miller claim. I feel like I should be ruthless and demand a policy lynch anyway, as a disincentive for scum to claim miller in the future, but I probably won't have the heart to go through with it.

Where does heart fit-in concerning a game designed around distrust and deceit?

ok fair enough, but why would my post, which is a question, over complicate things? I see it as a reasonable observation that has produced a question in my mind. Your reaction has now only increased doubt in my mind as to your authenticity. I take on board the things being said by Spyrex, fferylit and Channel with regard to the claim.

You weren't over-complicating things. But I felt that you were about to go on some confusing tangent centered around almost boundless WIFOM concerning my claim.

In the course of looking for scum, I usually identify players I feel pretty strongly are town. I like to work toward genuine consensus about the game state with players I think are town. Sometimes my towndar works so much better than my scumdar that I wind up mostly doing a PoE process with my reads.

I sometimes get accused of extreme buddying for my play style. Doesn't bother me.

I don't consider it scummy at all. I do it too sometimes, especially if I'm having trouble pegging someone as scum.

I see 100% self-preservatory actions and 0% scumhunting, which is classic scum behavior in a situation like this (again, check TV U-Pick mafia for reference).

I'm juggling 9 games right now and this game just started. Sorry for considering a game that just started as low priority. If you still have a problem, just push for a policy lynch. I won't blame you for it.

I also don't get how people are "getting town vibes" from people this early in the game. Is it that they make a lot of noise with good post content? I feel it's too early to say one way or the other. Just because someone is active and presents good arguments at this stage of the game does not make them town.

It usually has to do with scum-motivation versus town-motivation. Gut-feelings play a factor too.

For people who played with him before. Does he always play like a VI or is this scum notscience.

You wouldn't be the first to think/call notscience VI.

I'm leaning town on Garmr right now, so I'm going to remove my vote.

UNVOTE

Bah! Prodded mid-post.

[SleepyKrew]

hey
first off GOOD GOD 9 games
be careful not to actually talk about any of the ongoing games
or say anything that might look like it's referencing an ongoing game
okay back to reading

[YYR]

Vote: Kaze

I'm pretty sold on Brian Skies's claim at this point.

What exactly changed your mind here? Since you last responded to me, you still seemed unsure of your position on Brian. And he hasn't done anything as far as I can see that could possibly change your mind. The only thing I did see was two other townies solidify their read on Brian as town, and this looks like you're just following them along.

[Kazekirimaru]

It was mainly other players' actions that sold it for me, if that makes sense.

I'm pretty sure Aero is scum. He's my #1 scumread.

Aero jumped on Brian's miller claim ez pz. I simply don't feel like this is a bus attempt, but a scum jumping for an easy mislynch.

I'll admit others' opinions helped solidify my own. I do tend to take the crowd's opinion into consideration in situations I'm not familiar with. I've never played with a miller in game before.

But yeah, them's the breaks.

[notscience]

I'm entertaining the idea of lynching Garmr for lols if anyone else is in

[Kazekirimaru]

Remind me why, again?

[notscience]

Because he's a bully and called me a VI