Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

serrapaladin · Post Post #3175 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:20 pm

In post 3162, waynegg wrote:
In post 3150, serrapaladin wrote:My play mirrors Amnesiac in what way?
Tone, direction, and lack of a firm stance. That and having to be "convinced" to vote townies moreso than when you're town. You also seek to gain favor and not raise too many eyebrows for too long a period.

In short, your scum play is much more cautious than that your town play. You've been that type of cautious here.

Pedits

Unvote

Thanks

I already did

...Let's

And that hasn't changed. Serra was up there too.

Skip the last 3

My play has been cautious here? There was a lull somewhere D2/3 where my play was almost non-existent by a mixture of apathy and other things to do, but I've never been actively lurking like I did in that game. In particular I'm sure you saw my DL behaviour in that game, which was the terribly obvious "let me just hang back and have them mislynch". D1 deadline was everything but cautious.

As to not voting townies, I have voted slimer, fitz, and FG more or less without being prompted (as well as mantis, who is likely town, too).

serrapaladin · Post Post #3176 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:21 pm

In particular, going straight for Desp D1, while pushing a policy lynch on slimer was probably the least cautious I've ever played if I were scum. If you've read Amnesiac you know I have the terrible tendency to keep my buddies as fairly nullreads.

This sudden new meta argument against me just doesn't sit right at all...

waynegg · Post Post #3177 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:25 pm

Lol!

Not invalid...just sudden. That's really craptastic. Have anything better than that? Rhetorical of course because I know I could never convince you you're scum...

waynegg · Post Post #3178 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:26 pm

And other than a quick distance vote, YOU WERE NULL ON DESP.

serrapaladin · Post Post #3179 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:27 pm

After all that you bite on to the fact that I didn't call your argument INVALID again when I just described why you're wrong.

I don't care that you're wrong, town is wrong a lot, what worries me is how SUDDENLY this new argument popped up.

Good god I really hope you're scum...

I was never fucking null on desp. I made a case on him D1 and had him/wis as the scumteam.

waynegg · Post Post #3180 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:28 pm

In post 3176, serrapaladin wrote:...I have voted slimer, fitz, and FG more or less without being prompted (
as well as mantis, who is likely town, too
).

Isn't that precious!

serrapaladin · Post Post #3181 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:30 pm

Because you think it's true, or because it's not? We should really have listened to mara and not let you into mylo :/ I really can't tell if you're scum or just really really bad

penguin_alien · Post Post #3182 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:41 pm

...and now there's more to catch up on. BRB.

Bert · Post Post #3183 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:46 pm

In post 3181, serrapaladin wrote:Because you think it's true, or because it's not? We should really have listened to mara and not let you into mylo :/ I really can't tell if you're scum or just really really bad

In post 3179, serrapaladin wrote:Good god I really hope you're scum...

OK so you're flipping on waynegg? :/

reads list please

in order

tia

serrapaladin · Post Post #3184 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:49 pm

mantis is town

peng is probably scum

I have no idea between you/wayne :/

mollie was moderately townie (but then I keep misreading her), and mac's rage seemed genuine, but wayne is just....

waynegg · Post Post #3185 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:51 pm

In post 779, serrapaladin wrote:Desp is my realest scumread. Mollie/slimer/wis come next, of which slimer most needs to die because just look at his posts.

Yep. D1 you were "on" him. The wording here is awkward as hell, like "this scum read is real, the other three fake. Help me get town cred and hop on my bus" awkward.

In post 815, serrapaladin wrote:The desp vote was a joke. We still don't have a majority, so there's no use.

From D1

In post 1333, serrapaladin wrote:VOTE: Desp

Wis, do you actually think desp and I might be buddies?

This no conviction, get off my back, see I can vote Desp too looks particularly bad

In post 1736, serrapaladin wrote:God dammit desp might be town and I need to do some reading.

UNVOTE:

If someone teaches me how
nawk
works, I might still get to this tonight?

And Desp goes to null...

In post 2502, serrapaladin wrote:Well, I'm not sure desp would do this as scum. And if desp is telling the truth, Nati-town seems unlikely.

Now leaning town...

In post 2540, serrapaladin wrote:
In post 2528, waynegg wrote:One mislynch gets us to Mylo with no flipped scum. Are you obfuscating stupidity or just actually this dense? That's all the motivation needed for scum to do this and he had plenty of suspicion on him near the end of D2
But it also gives us 1 confscum. Unless scum were sure desp would be today's lynch, it doesn't make sense, no matter how patronising you are about it.

To discredit my Despscum case...

In post 2588, serrapaladin wrote:You make very little sense, egg.

More D3 discredit of me driving Desp wagon

In post 2617, serrapaladin wrote:VOTE: Mantis

I'm pretty sure this is the right lynch for today.

Trying to derail Desp wagon...

In post 2766, serrapaladin wrote:If desp is scum, he is of course the best lynch, but I'm wrong about my reads a lot and I'm sure you are too. You need to be more than 50% certain of Desp being scum for his lynch to be the better option, and I think that's a vast overestimate of town's ability to read people.

Save Desp moar...

In post 2990, serrapaladin wrote:VOTE: Desp

This game needs to end, one way or another.

And a flaccid vote once his chainsaw runs out of gas.

penguin_alien · Post Post #3186 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:56 pm

I feel really leery of all the day-ending votes we've had since Desperado's quickhammer (she says, after hammering havingfitz) with serra and Bert. But Mantis's quick-jump is odd too. Waynegg's actually my best town read ATM. Eh, I don't really think scum-Mantis would toss out a vote like that, although I guess it depends if we're at LyLo or not.

Bert's gotten really spammy, but I think his impulsivity is town for him, even if it does come off as way anti-town.. And I can't get past serra's behavior around the Desperado lynch. Not just the quickhammer, but also the unwillingness to consider the likelihood of tracker-cop given his participation in Yates' game.

I'm not voting waynegg. Not totally convinced of anything else.

waynegg · Post Post #3187 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:01 pm

Is there any way we could get a link to the dead QT? : P

Mantisdreamz · Post Post #3188 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:02 pm

In post 3174, waynegg wrote:
In post 3171, Mantisdreamz wrote:WAYNEGG -->
In post 3156, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 3153, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 3149, waynegg wrote:Mantis...
what? >.>

um waynegg, can you please explain why penguin is town to you??

In post 3141, waynegg wrote:Yep and I was reading PyP Open 505. Won't vote penguin today as a result. So that leaves Bert, Serra, Mantis to choose from for me.

you have to know that;s really not a good reason, right?

we're talking about THIS current game

waynegg · Post Post #3189 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:04 pm

So now you give no credence to meta? When did that happen?

Mantisdreamz · Post Post #3190 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:05 pm

this might be crazy, but i think im sticking with serra=town

Bert · Post Post #3191 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:06 pm

I have no confidence in LYLOs,

I've never lynched correctly in MYLO/LYLO ever as town

Bert · Post Post #3192 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:06 pm

Penguin, reads list please? Your list is really passive/indecisive....

please??? with a cherry on top...

waynegg · Post Post #3193 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:08 pm

If he were town, he would have already been hammered. This is probably LyLo, the gang's all here, and a townie is voting him...

Mantisdreamz · Post Post #3194 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:09 pm

In post 3179, serrapaladin wrote:After all that you bite on to the fact that I didn't call your argument INVALID again when I just described why you're wrong.

I don't care that you're wrong, town is wrong a lot, what worries me is how SUDDENLY this new argument popped up.

Good god I really hope you're scum...

I was never fucking null on desp. I made a case on him D1 and had him/wis as the scumteam.

In post 1430, serrapaladin wrote:Aww, come on! Desp is a good wagon.

Mantisdreamz · Post Post #3195 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:10 pm

i still don't trust you waynegg

penguin_alien · Post Post #3196 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:11 pm

I'm leaning serra, especially since waynegg is, then you, then Mantis, then way far away, waynegg. Scum to town. I seem to recall mollie thought Mantis was scummy, and being very sure her slot is town makes me think it's more valid. Push comes to shove, I don't know if you or Mantis is serra's partner, if there are three scum left. I'd want to look through double-ISOs if we hit scum today and the game doesn't end.

Malakittens · Post Post #3197 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:11 pm

5.02with five alive it will take three to lynch.

*waynegg -
*Mantisdreamz -
*Serrapaladin - waynegg [1]
*Bert -
*penguin_alien -

Not Voting [4]: penguin_alien, Mantisdreamz, Serrapaladin, bert

Chapter 5 Ends..Day 5 ends in (expired on 2013-09-29 14:16:00)

Bert · Post Post #3198 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:11 pm

In post 3193, waynegg wrote:If he were town, he would have already been hammered. This is probably LyLo, the gang's all here, and a townie is voting him...

So either you or Serra is scum is what you're saying

penguin_alien · Post Post #3199 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:12 pm

That list clearer, Bert?