Mafia 61: No Theme - Game over!

[Sailor Jerry]

Almost feel like I'm butting in... like everyone's decided who they're lynching. But for my money scotmany12 is the first scum.

He's contributed nothing but to jump on a single statement. At the very least, I'd be interested in hearing some content from him.

If it ends up being blahgo, as I predict it will be, I don't suppose that'll be too big a loss for the town.

[Battle Mage]

i dont think RR was a bad townie. He has always struck me as a capable player in other games, and despite facing suspicion in those, he has not asked to be replaced. Im pretty sure he is scum, but if not, im certain he isnt a power role. I think Kison would be a good lynch for today.

FOS: MoS

-for sticking up for scum

I agree with TheJiveMachine. While I'm not going to wipe Kison's slate clean, I'm not going to run up a replacement on Day 1, when it's possible RR was just a really bad townie that couldn't cope with pressure.

[Paper]

I've been a horrible lurker in this game and I apologize for this. I have been way busier than ever before (school sucks) and am only getting the chance to post this because the teacher's not paying attention to me in ICT class right now. I think I'll be able to be more active from today on; several tests are happening tomorrow and I'll have much more free time with them out of the way.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Battle Mage, please reference me to another game where RR has been run up for anything similar to this.

Also,

Hand of Stupidity: Battle Mage

You FoSed me on craplogic. You can't preemtively assume that I'm sticking up for scum when you haven't yet proven that said person I am "sticking up for" is scum. In addition, I fail to see how I am "sticking up for scum". Further, why are you singling me out, because if what I'm doing qualifies as "sticking up for someone", then you missed out on FoSing a lot of people.

You've got a lot of explaining to do, BM.

[Mastermind of Sin]

EDWOP:

You can't use that argument as evidence against me when you are assuming the basis of your entire argument, and haven't actually proven it. You just said that "If Kison is scum, then MoS is sticking up for scum." However, the first part of this proposition is false, insofar as we don't know if he's scum or not. Therefore, while the proposition on the whole is automatically true by virtue of the first part being false, that doesn't prove the second part of the proposition to be true.

Pwned by discrete math. Oh yeah!

[spectrumvoid]

BM: I agree with MoS here that you need to first prove that the person he's so-called defending is scum. Also, I'm pretty sure I've played more with RR than you, while he is a pretty decent player, I haven't seen really outstanding play from him.

Blahgo is being replaced in other games.

[Battle Mage]

its simple really. I think RR could well be scum. You are sticking up for his replacement. Therefore, it isnt hard to understand how i could see you as potential scum.
Anyway, if u want proof, lets lynch Kison and find out.
BM

Battle Mage, please reference me to another game where RR has been run up for anything similar to this.

Also,

Hand of Stupidity: Battle Mage

You FoSed me on craplogic. You can't preemtively assume that I'm sticking up for scum when you haven't yet proven that said person I am "sticking up for" is scum. In addition, I fail to see how I am "sticking up for scum". Further, why are you singling me out, because if what I'm doing qualifies as "sticking up for someone", then you missed out on FoSing a lot of people.

You've got a lot of explaining to do, BM.

[Wizardcat]

its simple really. I think RR could well be scum. You are sticking up for his replacement. Therefore, it isnt hard to understand how i could see you as potential scum.

Anyway, if u want proof, lets lynch Kison and find out.

BM

I absolutely love the bolded part. An attempt to start a lynch with no proof at all sound perfectly non-scummy, right, fellow players?

Unvote: blahgo, Vote: Mr. B. Mage

[Sailor Jerry]

Yep there's no doubt that would be conclusive proof.

[Lalmtreasteek]

Ok, I got scum on these players:

vote: scotmany

Twito
IH

Is there a good strategy for this besides reading people's posts and just gauging what sounds scummy or not scummy, because any other logic seems to get complicated fast.

[spectrumvoid]

Lalm: a good strategy is to have a ton of discussion.

So why do you think scotmany is scummy? Is it the same case as SJ's?

[Twito]

Sorry internet broke on Sunday and I've had a lot of stuff irl aswell. I'll be active and catch up when it's fixed.

[scotmany12]

Sailor Jerry, the reason I haven't contributed much was because, simply, I'm not that "talkative" like others. The only time when I really post is when I really want to say something. I haven't found much to act on so far in this game and blahgo was the only one that jumped out for me.

[scotmany12]

Also, Battle Mage, MoS was not the only one that stood up for RR. I know I did, and I'm pretty sure other people did so as well. Why is it that you are only singling out MoS?

[Battle Mage]

his was the most recent example at the time. If i remember correctly, i only FOSed him. If i was going to place a vote on it, i would obviously take other players actions into account.
BM

*wizardcat-talking to the other players colloquially when you (if you are protown) have no idea of their affiliation IS a scumtell. Anyway, what you are saying is false. I didnt 'start a lynch', i merely saw that those who had started it had done so for good reasons.

Also, Battle Mage, MoS was not the only one that stood up for RR. I know I did, and I'm pretty sure other people did so as well. Why is it that you are only singling out MoS?

[Sailor Jerry]

Sailor Jerry, the reason I haven't contributed much was because, simply, I'm not that "talkative" like others. The only time when I really post is when I really want to say something.

Reading through the quality of your posts appears to me to indicate the EXACT opposite. Almost everything you've posted is just chaff, and not exciting new insight.

[scotmany12]

Well, you are right. I haven't provided much insight because, well, there wasn't really much going on in this game. That's how I feel.

[Mastermind of Sin]

his was the most recent example at the time. If i remember correctly, i only FOSed him. If i was going to place a vote on it, i would obviously take other players actions into account.
BM

That's not an acceptable explanation. Even if you are not voting me, you are trying to cast suspicion upon myself and myself alone by FoSing me and excluding everyone else. This makes me think that you have some sort of agenda, and the only people that would have an agenda are, well, scum.

vote: BM

[Battle Mage]

rofl.
ive never seen anyone take an FOS so seriously.
ive also never seen such a blatant (and premature) OMGUS

his was the most recent example at the time. If i remember correctly, i only FOSed him. If i was going to place a vote on it, i would obviously take other players actions into account.
BM

That's not an acceptable explanation. Even if you are not voting me, you are trying to cast suspicion upon myself and myself alone by FoSing me and excluding everyone else. This makes me think that you have some sort of agenda, and the only people that would have an agenda are, well, scum.

vote: BM

[scotmany12]

BM, its not an omgus vote. If you are fosing MoS for standing up for RR, then you have to fos everyone else who standed up for him as well(including me). You can't just single one person out.

[Cheesefan]

Vote:BM

His craplogic on this page needs a vote.

[ac1983fan]

@BM: FOS's are intended to be taken as seriously as votes, because they tend to turn into votes.

I am not going too much from 03/05-03/09, because of standerdized testing. mod, replace me if you must, although i would rather not be replaced

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'll take an FoS seriously if it's made using craplogic while seemingly trying to raise suspicion on someone just to raise suspicion on them, as opposed to being a well-thought out FoS that actually shows that the person is trying to find scum. You don't look like you're trying to find scum. You look like you're trying to spread suspicion wherever possible. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you were scumbuddies with Kison and tried to throw him under the bus when you saw that others were suspicious of him, and now you're trying to keep throwing him under the bus and link me to him using craplogic so that when you get him lynched, I'll get lynched the next day and you'll still look good because you led the lynch on a scum. That's what it looks like from here.

[Kison]

An FoS for crappy reasons is just as bad as not FoSing/Voting and still spreading suspicion through bad logic.

[Lalmtreasteek]

I got scum on scotmany from his posts 1, 4, 9, 10, 12, 13, and 15.

I do trust Sailor Jerry, partly because he suspects scotmany also, but I don't know what to think of his specific reasoning.