N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake (game over)

[theloveofneroandmollie]

daykill:Sleepykrew

[theloveofneroandmollie]

vote:Sleepykrew

[theloveofneroandmollie]

going for the EZ town cred, peace?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

@Mod: Can you confirm that 10 to lynch instead of 9 is correct?

The fact that its listed in the VC isn't good enough?

His vote count is wrong anyways since Kats is voting for SK.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Should I even ask you your opinion of peacebringer?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Should I even ask you your opinion of peacebringer?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

neroandmollie: He did vote for SK on Page 1 but Page 2 posting talks about the vote count being wrong and MUM's opinion on peacebringer? Vibe of "Keep up activity levels" of posting scum play.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.

MUM is fairly notorious for fluff posting/not playing the game and I often scumread the two heads. I think we are kinda past the RVS stage so MUM coming in and not commenting is still sorta suspect.

What do you think of peace?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

going for the EZ town cred, peace?

That's what I think of peace. So your leaning a lil' scummy to me. Why are you afraid of me asking people about you?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

.............................................

You know how this game works right? One player finds another player scummy and they try to convince the rest of the town to lynch said player. I often see scum go for the cheap town cred of questioning a policy type lynch/senseless bw.

but your behavior of questioning others who do not know a player about a player you do not know is intriguing...

This is horrible. No one needs to "know" a player to have an opinion of their in game actions. This is tantamount to "you can't scumread me since you don't know me" which is just yuck.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

.............................................

You know how this game works right? One player finds another player scummy and they try to convince the rest of the town to lynch said player. I often see scum go for the cheap town cred of questioning a policy type lynch/senseless bw.

but your behavior of questioning others who do not know a player about a player you do not know is intriguing...

This is horrible. No one needs to "know" a player to have an opinion of their in game actions. This is tantamount to "you can't scumread me since you don't know me" which is just yuck.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

This is horrible. No one needs to "know" a player to have an opinion of their in game actions. This is tantamount to "you can't scumread me since you don't know me" which is just yuck.

at this is contrary to the culture here... fyi. so good for you.

But whatever read you may think you have you need to apparently have it validated by others before doing anything. Not quite sure of the motivation in that behavior or the potential of making that play... it is odd.

?????

I didn't know I needed anything validated. Asking others their opinion on something that *I* feel is important is scumhunting and moving the game foreword. It also potentially helps get a read on the other player whom I am asking.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

.............................................

You know how this game works right? One player finds another player scummy and they try to convince the rest of the town to lynch said player. I often see scum go for the cheap town cred of questioning a policy type lynch/senseless bw.

but your behavior of questioning others who do not know a player about a player you do not know is intriguing...

This is horrible. No one needs to "know" a player to have an opinion of their in game actions. This is tantamount to "you can't scumread me since you don't know me" which is just yuck.

****engage explanatory mode**** clearly you have done no investigation into this said player and my experience with the game. Some things to know.

I come from the "werewolf" school of play with fast games. QUick, limited posts and a definite lack of explained reasons. Pretty much lost count a long time ago of the # of games I played

. Werewolf or mafia style. Spent 2 years playing here in 2004-2005. Left over some frustration over issues with the culture and overall players. Came back to play with Jake from State Farm. I also know by an large with a large sample size that people have a reaction to me as 'scummy' when they first encounter me. I am special like that. ****disegnaeg explantory mode

me too!

so if you understand all of this then why the flak and interference when we are not only trying to read just you?

you kind of look like you got your hand caught in the cookie jar or something if you are town you should probably start towntelling.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Unvote
Vote: neroandmollie

I would

LOVE

to hear this.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

because?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

not really. your overreactions to pb (who i'm currently reading as town, btw) don't read as genuine.

huh

since when did scumhunting become an "overreaction".

feeble and sad push from your slot may possibly be town.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

not really. your overreactions to pb (who i'm currently reading as town, btw) don't read as genuine.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

not really. your overreactions to pb (who i'm currently reading as town, btw) don't read as genuine.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Neroandmollie is not a bad vote either.

*blinks*

I think I got mixed up and joined a newbie game.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Neroandmollie, what is so town about you so far?

the mod told us we were town.

+

we are attacking your biggest scumread so its really nonsensical that you'd have scumreads on us both. Its maybe some potential hedging on your part.

Explain why you even have a scum read on us.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

we are attacking your biggest scumread so its really nonsensical that you'd have scumreads on us both.

why is this nonsensical?

serious question

'cause we are town/there's absolutely no ratinal reason to suspect us as scum.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

feeble and sad push from your slot may possibly be town.

i feel honoured.

I feel honoured that you feel honoured.

if pb does something super undeniably town in his next post, who would you then vote and why?

I would push deasguy for #91.

but dogop or w/e's 89# is pretty bad like terribad.

scumreads pb cos contrivance + gut but votes you cos you are the stronger scumread when his only case on you is contrivance. why ignore the gut?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

So, you yourself can't even think of a good reason to read you as town, but at the mention of you not being a bad vote, you accuse me of being a newbie?

Before, I thought that your scumhunting was superficial and that you didn't really look very town

Well, I have a tendency to not scum read the folks that are attacking my scumreads. So when you called us scummy I floored and shocked. I was "WTF?!? I'm scumreading his scumread and he's hedging his bets?"

And now you're claiming that I'm faking a

TOWN

attitude

SCUMHUNTING

.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

I feel that multiball is reasonably likely here anyway.

In a 17 player game? Hello cereal killah.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

I'm a little different and think a kill is a kill so even though the term multiball specifically says its two identical scumteams, I use it interchangeably. Yes this game is likely swingyish but 2 scum teams in a 17 play game? I could by a 5/12 setup but I don't see how any town just assumes we have two uneven scumteams.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

So who's scum Kats?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

I wonder.

(hint: my iso has a grand total of 2 posts, though you can prob add RT to that list I think (skimmed, on way out will read thread later))

So you were being serious about accusing PB of scumposting? Why did you vote SK then?

You came in and said there was a lot of bad and that the bad was chok full of scum but you didn't name any names so....thanks for the useless fluff post?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Is there a reason you are being so hard to get along with?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

VOTE: pb

[theloveofneroandmollie]

And you wonder why I kill you whenever available, Kats.

In post 22 you call peace's post "scumposting" yet you bandwagon SK instead

Then in 108 you give some vague "there's been bad posting and the bad posting is scum"

I then ask you who are these "bad scum posters" and you get all cheeky about it.

Then you imply you were being serious about calling out peace, which doesn't explain why you didn't vote peace and again when I ask you you prefer to be hard to get along with and scrape your fingernails on the chalkboard.

Fill in the blank here.

I am ______.

For the blank use town or scum.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Despo and Mara are like huge lurkers. vote Kats with me peace.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

@Kats

Fill in the blank here.

I am ______.

For the blank use town or scum.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

@Kats

Fill in the blank here.

I am ______.

For the blank use town or scum.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Page 2 was odd; still suspicious for pushing PB without voting; scum read slightly mitigated because of his suspicions on DeasVail, dopog. Slotted as scum read where intensity of earlier scum read has reduced. Do not want to lynch over stronger scum reads.

Why are we scummy for pushing PB without a vote but Kats is not?

I have no clue how RT has a town read on DV for his horrible horrible "we has multiball in a 17 player game" and hasn't explained it yet. Though in our last game I remember him saying some pretty derpy things as town.

vote:Kats

[theloveofneroandmollie]

My my, look at Kat dance around not telling me

HIS

alignment.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

My my, look at Kat dance around not telling me

HIS

alignment.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

hi ooba hi

have a seat:





wrt what you said

I find it strange that you are all like HEHO! about naming scum partners but you seem confused about why we would vote 1 player but pursue another?

did you see what we wrote about dopog in response to rail tracer? cos wow there is something we have in common but your response was to fos us for....scumreading a couple of players while simultaneously naming a scum partners when 1 of the players we are looking at is the same 1 you are voting for?

there was a point of intersection that you failed to meet and it seems to me if you were town you would at least have stopped at the traffic light.

FOS this.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

hi molla

[theloveofneroandmollie]

@neromollie; what's actually your read on sleepy + rail tracer?

this is it, yeah?

rail is null.

sleepy looks town I think.

if you are pointing out that # 72 is scummy and you totally want to bus your partner we might can help you with that since if he is scum, he can look sooooo town that you will want to vote your grandmother instead of him. <-----just a hunch.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

were asking for your alignment.

I'm clearly a cult recruiter.

lol

hi scum.

Kats, what is your read on nmenocicdevice?

I see. Then why did you have your vote on sleepy so long too? Especially when you were attacking PB and didn't vote him?

You're about the third person to bring this up. If I moved my vote every time I thought a player was scum I'd have a shitload of vote moves and really I think that's uneeded. I'm experienced enough to know what I'm doing though.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

how are you town on sleepykrew and null on me? like, how have you not at least formed some sort of read on me?

So we should be scum reading you? I have you down as null. Tell me why I shouldn't have you as null? I'm still iffy on SK (apparently Mollie hs a town read on him. Update your reads in the speardsheet!!!) but I think Kats is scum so that kinda points to SK/PB town.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

how are you town on sleepykrew and null on me? like, how have you not at least formed some sort of read on me?

So we should be scum reading you? I have you down as null. Tell me why I shouldn't have you as null? I'm still iffy on SK (apparently Mollie hs a town read on him. Update your reads in the speardsheet!!!) but I think Kats is scum so that kinda points to SK/PB town.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

mnemonic could be scum, idk. But we should all be killing Kats ASAP.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Tell me what you think of Kats.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

skrew
I am not abandoning you
unlike that nacho thing
that is floating on wing

thinking other head is right about kats. still looking at dopog and oobi thing

[theloveofneroandmollie]

hey VA

call out

you are poasting on other parts of the site

we are feeling unloved

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Mara, why aren't you voting Kats?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Mara, why aren't you voting Kats?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

SK, would you stop it. I don't really think Mara is all that scummy, you need to vote Kats scum with me and cereal killah Deas.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

SK, would you stop it. I don't really think Mara is all that scummy, you need to vote Kats scum with me and cereal killah Deas.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Well Saki/VA also shadowed me and said DV was a SK. Its likely scum anyways.

Still, DV saying that he thinks its MB in a 17 player game and not explaining why he made that comment equates to fluff posting/inside information. Weather he's an SK or mafia, doesn't really matter to me and its someone that I think we should get rid of before Lylo.

Kats play is horribly scummy. I don't really think his play is of the "unsavory" troll variety.

Mollie: I've left you some love letters in our "specual" place.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Well Saki/VA also shadowed me and said DV was a SK. Its likely scum anyways.

Still, DV saying that he thinks its MB in a 17 player game and not explaining why he made that comment equates to fluff posting/inside information. Weather he's an SK or mafia, doesn't really matter to me and its someone that I think we should get rid of before Lylo.

Kats play is horribly scummy. I don't really think his play is of the "unsavory" troll variety.

Mollie: I've left you some love letters in our "specual" place.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

PB, what do you think of Kats?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

nm

[theloveofneroandmollie]

it is amusing when "fluff' is used to call someone scummy. Fluff is null. And one fluffer throws digits at another based on fluff it is amusing

as to kats, hey guys, those of you that want reasons and such... go skim some of his scum games and compare the town with tone games and tone here...
tell me what you think the tone showed here has more in common with... either that or simply vote kats... Get R done. Of course you could always ignore but really not the wisest course.

Calling a post fluffy/person fluffy has nothing to do with calling a player scum. As you correctly pointed out, both alignments do it. Though scum DO fluff.

Can you link me to your last RECENT COMPLETED scum game?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Why do you think DV as town would claim he thinks a game is MB on day 1 just for no reason?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

i dunno... maybe because he does? that would seem like the obvious answer

So why would he not explain it?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Even if he had reason to believe that it was multiball, the town motivation of making that claim is what?

Scum often hint at there being a second killing faction early on.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Even if he had reason to believe that it was multiball, the town motivation of making that claim is what?

Scum often hint at there being a second killing faction early on.

a play like that from a reactions based player would be to get reactions and see what happens

but you've never played with Deas so why do you think he's a reaction based player?

So, we have more than one kill tonight. What does this say about Deas?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

getting the short end?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

getting the short end?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

@SD, your Kats, nmonicdevice, RT and VA reads please.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Neroandmollie, what is so town about you so far?

mollie mostly.

pfft. I bleed town and all my arguments are perfectly logical.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Neroandmollie, what is so town about you so far?

mollie mostly.

pfft. I bleed town and all my arguments are perfectly logical.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

is there a headdesk emote?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Mara, why aren't you voting Kats?

Why should I be voting kats?

What has he done that is scummy? he hasn't stood out to me yet so far

You should be voting Kats while there's still time to get town cred for bussin' your buddy.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Mara, why aren't you voting Kats?

Why should I be voting kats?

What has he done that is scummy? he hasn't stood out to me yet so far

You should be voting Kats while there's still time to get town cred for bussin' your buddy.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi

[theloveofneroandmollie]

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi

[theloveofneroandmollie]

How do I do a screen capture? I just asked the 8-ball if Kats was scum and I got "absolutely"

[theloveofneroandmollie]

I'm going to fucking frame this!

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Also, luna lovegod can die too

[theloveofneroandmollie]

I may just call you fluffer from here on in to get under your skin...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluffer

[theloveofneroandmollie]

my internet son always posts fluffy.

we once played a skype game and he spoke spanish the whole time. he was the doc. it isn't a scumtell for him.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

oh yeah that's right

eta: skrew if you get weird on me I am going to hurt you
eta2: he is ignoring me right now. I don't know why I am not even arguing about the kats vote cos I think kats is scum too.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

lol nope. Its not like scum never replace out under pressure.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

holy cow

[theloveofneroandmollie]

all of VA/Kats/luna need to go

but today is Kats.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Oh mnemonic is scummy for asking for me to supply my previous games and then not following up when I ignored him

Also, took the bait on the Magic 8-ball like it was 4realz.

And also did like 5 other people.

^Why is nobody taking note of this guy

we are but that's not for today.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

all of VA/Kats/luna need to go

but today is Kats.

I'm pretty excited to see how this pans out.

Besides yourself, what do you have against a VA or Kats kill?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

I clicked on it too, Mutt. I was disappointed.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Andy, at the moment I get the feeling that your Katsuki read is an attempt to go against the trend rather than actually being genuine. And before someone asks, this is quite independent of Katsuki's alignment.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Out of game, but what's with the Saki hate?

People are just dicks.

or maybe everyone just hates your playstyle but you aren't doing anything at all this game so you'll be dying soon.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Lamento que usted rodó escoria.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Out of game, but what's with the Saki hate?

People are just dicks.

or maybe everyone just hates your playstyle but you aren't doing anything at all this game so you'll be dying soon.

I don't plan on doing anything because the discussion so far has been mediocre
and the playerlist isnt doing anything to help my apathy

N, when are you checking in

what are you talking about I am awsum

also N is probably still asleep but he should be around tonight.

eta: hi andy!

[theloveofneroandmollie]

To be fair, I'm posting more than Mollie but Saki complaining about the lack of "good" town discussion while not adding to the discussion and claiming that the "lack of discussion prevents him from adding to the game is especially derptastic.

+

he's not voting confirmed Kat scum.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

not adding to the discussion

adding to the discussion = taking part in the discussion
why would i do the latter if i hate the discussion?

what do you not like about the discussion?

tbh it is slightly less dumb than most of the discussions I have seen/participated in on this site.

this head isn't as sure about kats being scum as I was 5 minutes ago (I am a sucker for aTe) but the only other person who is tweaking my scumdar is rail tracer and I don't want to go after them cos I love that hydra. also if they are pinging it probably means they are town but hard to say.

so following the nero head on his read.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

well dopog is still pinging, oobi not so much anymore

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Well, if you have a town wincon then I don't understand why you don't help in finding scum ergo I'm having a hard time believing that you have a town wincon.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

VOTE: dopog

[theloveofneroandmollie]

all of VA/Kats/luna need to go

but today is Kats.

I'm pretty excited to see how this pans out.

Besides yourself, what do you have against a VA or Kats kill?

Katsuki lynch is baseless. VA lynch is OK but not really great.
I said I was excited to see how this pans out because mollie probably does not share anything close to those reads.

not according to what she's telling me in our write board. Though I didn't mention you but she seems ok with a VA/Kats group.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

I'm clearly a cult recruiter.

clearly he was being factitious but why he'd claim that instead of town is just pants on head retarded.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

I'm clearly a cult recruiter.

clearly he was being factitious but why he'd claim that instead of town is just pants on head retarded.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Why do you think DV as town would claim he thinks a game is MB on day 1 just for no reason?

i dunno... maybe because he does? that would seem like the obvious answer

I agree with RT

Why does that not surprise me?

Of course he believes that or else he wouldn't say that. The question is

WHY

he believes that and the fact that he won't state WHY he believes that is pretty alarming.

I don't mind muffin being derpy about it 'cause its muffin. but ya'll sheeping that is pretty horrible.

Why do you have a town read on Kats/PV?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

{dopog, Nani, BBmolla, Dante, ooba}

So this is not a scumlist? What is it then?

Knowing that a game is multiball isn't information that town should have on day 1 and I think any townie worth their weight in salt would be very cautious about that post. I think if he were town and had that belief he'd have no trouble telling us why he thinks that. The fact he's ignoring it and hoping that it (the question) just goes away also doesn't make me think its pro-town.

Tell me what you guys think of the Kat/PV slot?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Also: I call bullshit.

Deas didn't say he "knew" it was multiball, he said it's "very likely." That's speculation.

Here's mollie speculating multiball D1 in Red Wedding

Mollie is entirely correct when she says site meta points towards multiball.

Really not like this from you Nero.

- Des

is this about me not replying to you or something

I haven't been in this game as much cos I think kasuki should have been lynched right away. I am with nero and his reads but I want to add that luna thing on the list. problem is they have both been so genuinely terrible as far as leadership goes that I can't tell

[theloveofneroandmollie]

oh god now nero is getting hysterical about something

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Also: I call bullshit.

Deas didn't say he "knew" it was multiball, he said it's "very likely." That's speculation.

Here's mollie speculating multiball D1 in Red Wedding

Mollie is entirely correct when she says site meta points towards multiball.

HA!

There's a big difference between this game and red wedding. red wedding was based on a show/theme. Mollie is 100% correct that MB is very commom around here but those are usually in larger games. A 5/12 split seems reasonable for this size of game. A 5 man scum team or a 4 man team and a sk are both plausible. "Speculating" on a 3 man/2 man split looks like inside info. Its completely reasonable to ask him why he has such a belief.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Also: I call bullshit.

Deas didn't say he "knew" it was multiball, he said it's "very likely." That's speculation.

Here's mollie speculating multiball D1 in Red Wedding

Mollie is entirely correct when she says site meta points towards multiball.

HA!

There's a big difference between this game and red wedding. red wedding was based on a show/theme. Mollie is 100% correct that MB is very commom around here but those are usually in larger games.

A 5/12 split seems reasonable for this size of game. A 5 man scum team or a 4 man team and a sk are both plausible.

"Speculating" on a 3 man/2 man split looks like inside info. Its completely reasonable to ask him why he has such a belief.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you consider scum + SK to be multiball?

I don't consider scum + sk to be multiball.

-mollie

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Also: I call bullshit.

Deas didn't say he "knew" it was multiball, he said it's "very likely." That's speculation.

Here's mollie speculating multiball D1 in Red Wedding

Mollie is entirely correct when she says site meta points towards multiball.

HA!

There's a big difference between this game and red wedding. red wedding was based on a show/theme. Mollie is 100% correct that MB is very commom around here but those are usually in larger games.

A 5/12 split seems reasonable for this size of game. A 5 man scum team or a 4 man team and a sk are both plausible.

"Speculating" on a 3 man/2 man split looks like inside info. Its completely reasonable to ask him why he has such a belief.

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you consider scum + SK to be multiball?

if you are asking this you have clearly not read the whole conversation.

Which only bolsters my scumread on your slot.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Yep. I don't think he's in your scum group and traditional MB seems very very unlikely so if we see a second kill I'm going to think its an SK kill.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

you're not in the game because one of your scumreads didn't get lynched immediately?
a scumread that you never ever talked about?

nero has been talking about it ever since he came up for air, how are you even missing this. unless your angle is that I did not push the case myself.

I agreed with the read.

plz drop a freaking towntell so I don't have to go paranoid on you both.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

A reads list ugh.....

[theloveofneroandmollie]

I would like to hear some current thoughts on the gamestate.

What are your thoughts on the current gamestate?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

luna <3

okay you guys can be town

not really liking mnemonic's drive-by post what do you think

[theloveofneroandmollie]

why is nero dangerous if town?

[theloveofneroandmollie]

also I am thinking mebbe, just mebbe, rail might be town.

/hydras unite

[theloveofneroandmollie]

i recall one game i was scum, you were town, i didn't need to do much to hide,cause u dead tunneled 2/3 towns,game interrupted cause host made a mistake
but yeah i think u town this time too , but i am town too this time soooooooooo we need to tunnel mafia htis game... Pv was in that game too was scum with me, is acting in the same way this is why i fos him.

you can tell a difference between perv town and perv scum?

cos I can't

whisper your seekrits....

[theloveofneroandmollie]

i am convinced PV is scum in every game and sometimes the mod fucks up his flip.

aaand this is why I think you are town.

wait tell me you are not actually voting for perv

[theloveofneroandmollie]

1st u still speaking about SK "claim" when i am pretty sure no one knows , not even me, what my role is.
2nd I am not miler i investigated innocent.
3rd i don't hurt town at all
4rd i am not even a pr actually... well the only useful part of my"ability " doesn't work so no.
5 we can say i have a passive night action.

You're omgusing everyone who fos u now.. i don't know if i will take it as a scum tell.Most of times omgus is a towntell unless IT obv.

question dante: Do you think DOg being v/la not able to claim or defend himself if the best ynch today?Cause to me looks a Bw on town ... i could still be wrong.. but kill the guy when he is sleeping is fishy.

Btw 4 people are not here at day end, So today sucks i am not sure we should lynch in them but sure it convenient to be v/la last 3/4 days i mean to fly low.

I am confused.

how can you not know your role (we know ours) and yet know that you are not a miller?