NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

[ffullisade]

despo parroting me in a way is scary too.

Fery question? Your townread [?] on us.. Was it based on the mala or mara part of the hydra?

~ Mala

My read is pretty mushy tbh. I think that I've mostly interacted with mara. mollie's concerns were with mala posts mostly (I think - I'm not sure I've accurately identified whose posts are whose).

other than the latter half of yesterday, and today, we've actually worked to make each post Identifiable. which posts have you been struggling with?

You've interacted mostly with Mala

I was talking about several weeks ago when mollie and (I think mostly) mala were arguing, and mollie was scumreading you.

[PeregrineV]

Limited Access Aug 30 (Fri) thru Monday- back in full swing Tuesday.

[penguin_alien]

I really don't see PV as scum for everything that went down yesterday. HD was reading townish yesterday, but his stance on PV could have been blue scum not wanting to touch the neighborhoods. Looking at his vote history since the neighborhoods came out, the only neighbor he's voted is ThAd, who claimed a town PR.

Y'know, you never answered why you found my stance on PV townish in the first place. It'd be cool if you did.
Also I outright declared a townread on CTD (a neighbor) and a scumread on ThAd (a neighbor) so...what was I avoiding?

Bulbazak was townish yesterday, but with ThAd confirmed, I keep going back to the failed shot on him with a red scum doc. If HD is the last blue (and so the only likely source of a roleblock) he could have blocked ThAd's shot on him, hence the two different failure types ThAd claimed.

And then proceed to ask a question involving said roleblock that confirms the mislynch I want to push as town?
Sounds like a great idea.

Sorry, limited time ATM, but I think I did address the first part of this yesterday: PV was very much not a scum read for me. The prevailing theory was that the likely neighborhood scum was blue and could be the last scum from his team left. While it was beneficial for scum to lynch anyone they could in the neighborhoods, since if another scum flipped anyone left would be very likely town and almost impossible to lynch, town should have been more discriminating, as mislynching from the neighborhoods means eliminating a potential conf-town to have down the line. It would have been easy for you to pile on a likely PV mislynch, but you didn't.

But last night's kills indicated that there's still blue scum in play, and so the above argument weakens a bit when you consider that if you're blue scum and so had partner-CTD left alive, you might have still been reluctant to lynch in the neighborhoods at all.

I'm not tracking the second half of that quote. Which mislynch would you have wanted to push as town?

I need to read the last couple pages; I'll catch up tonight.

[Nachomamma8]

I'll finish the rest of the Nacho/Ceph interaction later, but I think that, so far this points to Nacho and Ceph are a team

What are the interactions between us that make you feel this the strongest?

And then proceed to ask a question involving said roleblock that confirms the mislynch I want to push as town?

PA picked up on something awesome that I'm going to quote again.

[mastin2]

Limited Access Aug 30 (Fri) thru Monday- back in full swing Tuesday.

Got it.

One-Hundred-Fifty-Eighth Votecount

:

(Third Votecount of Day Six,

AKA, the "Impressive Activity!" votecount.

)

Human Destroyer - 2 (Nachomamma8, ffullisade)

penguin_alien - 2 (Amethyst Kitty, Bulbazak)

Nachomamma8 - 2 (Desperado, Human Destroyer)

Not Voting - 2 (PeregrineV, penguin_alien)

With

8

alive, it is

5

to lynch.

Day Six's deadline is Monday, September 16th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-09-16 12:30:00).

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Human Destroyer - 2 (Nachomamma8, ffullisade)
penguin_alien - 2 (Amethyst Kitty, Bulbazak)
Nachomamma8 - 2 (Desperado, Human Destroyer)

Not Voting - 2 (PeregrineV, penguin_alien)

Last votecount was page 236, post 5886.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D6

Nachomamma8: Human Destroyer
PeregrineV:
Bulbazak: Human Destroyer->penguin_alien
Desperado: Nachomamma8
penguin_alien:
Amethyst Kitty: Human Destroyer->Unvote->penguin_alien
ffullisade: Human Destroyer
Human Destroyer: Nachomamma8

Spoiler: Vote History D6

On Mon, Aug 8/26/13 @ 05:55p,

Nachomamma8

votes

Human Destroyer

in post 5814.
On Mon, Aug 8/26/13 @ 06:51p,

ffullisade

votes

Human Destroyer

in post 5818.
On Tue, Aug 8/27/13 @ 00:28a,

Bulbazak

votes

Human Destroyer

in post 5839.
On Tue, Aug 8/27/13 @ 10:11p,

Amethyst Kitty

votes

penguin_alien

in post 5852.
On Wed, Aug 8/28/13 @ 00:11a,

Desperado

votes

Nachomamma8

in post 5856.
On Wed, Aug 8/28/13 @ 09:59p,

Bulbazak

unvotes

Human Destroyer

and votes

penguin_alien

in post 5866.
On Thu, Aug 8/29/13 @ 08:22a,

Human Destroyer

votes

Nachomamma8

in post 5877.

[Human Destroyer]

Which mislynch would you have wanted to push as town?

I meant "confirms the person I am supposedly trying to mislynch to be town".

(i.e. ThAd)

[Human Destroyer]

PA picked up on something awesome that I'm going to quote again.

So ffery.

You really think Nacho is town?

Because...this is really shitty.

Really

shitty.

[Nachomamma8]

Because...this is really shitty.

Really shitty.

Sorry, one more time?

And then proceed to ask a question involving said roleblock that confirms the mislynch I want to push as town?

[ffullisade]

PA picked up on something awesome that I'm going to quote again.

So ffery.

You really think Nacho is town?

Because...this is really shitty.

Really

shitty.

Oh

My

God


A reach-out. Why didn't this happen on day 5? Or before that?

[Human Destroyer]

PA picked up on something awesome that I'm going to quote again.

So ffery.

You really think Nacho is town?

Because...this is really shitty.

Really

shitty.

Oh

My

God


A reach-out. Why didn't this happen on day 5? Or before that?

Because it didn't.

[ffullisade]

PA picked up on something awesome that I'm going to quote again.

So ffery.

You really think Nacho is town?

Because...this is really shitty.

Really

shitty.

Oh

My

God


A reach-out. Why didn't this happen on day 5? Or before that?

Because it didn't.

Right. You make a personal appeal today.

I don't think Nacho is scum.

We evidently have 3 scum left. Who else would you lynch today?

[Amethyst Kitty]

Not really, no. And I don't really care.

Ok

the fact that it took you a while to give me a straight answer is making me think otherwise though

[Amethyst Kitty]

Ffery, why don't you think Nacho is scum? I agree with you logically, though Gut says something different

and yes, the argument between our accounts was mostly mala/mollie

[Amethyst Kitty]

I'll finish the rest of the Nacho/Ceph interaction later, but I think that, so far this points to Nacho and Ceph are a team

What are the interactions between us that make you feel this the strongest?

It isn't a specific action, but how you treated Ceph as whole and how you talked to him.

You mostly called him town early on, though when I asked you about him you said you didn't like his responses, then you called him town again.

When you interact with him, it looks like you're reading him as scummish up to a point (the point where I stopped analyzing) but still called him town, then you called him town as fuck and your interactions after that, was light defending but nothing really worth notice given your supposedly strong town-read of him

[Amethyst Kitty]

Fuck off Nacho

Pedit: UNVOTE:

we aren't doing shit until I come home tomorrow

Does it look like I give a fuck?

we aren't going to do anything until I come home tomorrow and get a chance to talk with Mala

You're free to do stuff with everyone else though

Someone is a little Joker

If you're going to attempt to scum-read us, you should go the entire mile instead of stopping half-way through

What happened to your strong town-read in Penguin anyway? Mala agreed with you there so, if you are town, you maybe at least did something right!

PV's probably right, in that there's two red and one blue

You're red and HD is blue

we just need to find that other red

FFery, I said Mala had a town-read on HD and that she'll explain it if she came back, though apparently it wasn't all that strong because she waffled last night when I told her my town-read on him died a long, long time ago

heh...

I could prolly go on a paranoia run on anyone who isn't in hydra atm

Bulb, what do you think of these posts?

specifically the last one, because it has just as, if not more, potential to be construed as scummy compared to the post you chose to scum-read us off with.

If you're going to say you aren't ignoring my post, and are unable to even tell the difference between our posts, at least make the effort to scum-read everything we say as a whole and not just a select few

[Amethyst Kitty]

As a bonus, the first two quotes could also easily be construed as me "trying to look pro-town"!

[ffullisade]

Ffery, why don't you think Nacho is scum? I agree with you logically, though Gut says something different

and yes, the argument between our accounts was mostly mala/mollie

I'll answer this in a day or 2. I'm mulling over some things that I think points strongly to town-Nacho.

[Amethyst Kitty]

Yet...

you vote with us?

You're not red scum.

Pv, I'd like a response to this when you get back

[Amethyst Kitty]

Ffery, why don't you think Nacho is scum? I agree with you logically, though Gut says something different

and yes, the argument between our accounts was mostly mala/mollie

I'll answer this in a day or 2. I'm mulling over some things that I think points strongly to town-Nacho.

K

I can wait

[Nachomamma8]

When you interact with him, it looks like you're reading him as scummish up to a point (the point where I stopped analyzing) but still called him town, then you called him town as fuck and your interactions after that, was light defending but nothing really worth notice given your supposedly strong town-read of him

I am naturally paranoid of my read on Cephrir; he's more confident as scum (him and I stomp-thwomped a town together in our time), meaning that sometimes he sends out false positives as town that aren't actually him being scummy. He's also the type of player that plays scum well enough and I'm not familiar enough with yet that keeps me on my toes, meaning all town reads have dark edges. Here is a game where we were scumbuddies who ended up replacing in at the same time, compare our interactions here to our interactions there and tell me what you think.

[Amethyst Kitty]

I did a quick Iso on you and you definitely talked to Ceph there as much as you have here, though there is a lot less you trying to figure him out there compared to here. If I was to compare the games side by side, and read you solely off of that, I would say that the two of you probably aren't scum together this game

[ffullisade]

HD, there's something I'd like to talk about when you are around. One of our mutual past games.

[Desperado]

Do you think there is a chance of me being red scum?

Not really. AK pushing you hard as red scum is making me pretty damn sure you aren't red.

Desp, I love you but Nacho is red scum, not blue scum

See above.

[Desperado]

Desperado
Bulbazak
PeregrineV

penguin_alien

ffullisade
Human Destroyer
Nacho

Amethyst Kitty

Town to scum if it wasn't obvious.

If it's 5v3 why aren't we NLing? I don't expect anyone left to claim PR so it's MYLO with no chance to stop the kill?...

[Nachomamma8]

We don't know how many scum are left and it's multiball so it won't change even/odd.