Mini 414-Anime Mafia | GAME OVAH!

[Jack]

Vote:Ubertimmy

[Jack]

Unvote,Vote:Skruffs

[Jack]

No.

Unvote, Vote:Yamahako

[Jack]

Since there's no need to add to Jack's bandwagon, I'll just question why he posted three times already... That's odd, but what's odder is that he's voted in each of them. Apparently, he's post restricted. Anyone else want to claim post restrictions?

I can't

wait

to see what flavor Jack's role has.

What makes you think I have a post restriction?

Unvote,Vote:thrawn1020

[Jack]

Hi!

Unvote, Vote:Jack

[Jack]

Unvote, Vote:No-Lynch

[Jack]

I'm growing a bit concerned about Jack. It appears that he has some sort of a random voting condition...In an endgame that could prove to be very dangerous. I don't think that he's our lynch, but we should really try to kill him before the numbers get too small.

Unvote, Vote:AndrewS

I don't have a random voting condition.[/b]

[Jack]

Well, what do you have?

Nothing.

unvote,Vote:Jack

[Jack]

(is reminded of the Monty Python cheese shop sketch)

Also, FOS: Jack for posting only one word up to this point when he could post more

Unvote, Vote:AndrewS

Why do you assume I have a vote restriction but that I can post more than I have been posting?

I'm growing a bit concerned about Jack. It appears that he has some sort of a random voting condition...In an endgame that could prove to be very dangerous. I don't think that he's our lynch, but we should really try to kill him before the numbers get too small.

Why did you suggest killing me? That's wicked scummy.

[Jack]

There *are* no post restrictions in this game, it's a *normal* mini, not themed. So Jack is doing all that stuff of his own free will - Is there a reason for it? Who knows...

It's certainly been more interesting than the first few pages usually are.

[Jack]

I'm not sure I like this culture of calling someone out on putting on a pressure vote. It seems to me a few times during this game that someone has clearly voted to pressure someone into posting more / explaining themselves / whatever and then someone else has come along and demanded an explaination. The moment someone is forced to explaining that their vote is only for pressure, the pressure is dissipated and so less information is gleaned from their reaction.

I agree.

[Jack]

I still don't like AndrewS.

[Jack]

His repeated voting and extremely short posts with

no content

look odd.

All you've done is assume I had a restriction, suggest lynching me for it, and then defend your actions.

Does odd=scum?

[Jack]

We had reason to believe that you had a restriction. Why else would you do that?

I never suggested lynching you because you had a restriction

- I put a pressure vote on you to ask why you did that. And yes, odd can equal scum in some situations.

It appears that he has some sort of a random voting condition... we should really try to

kill him

before the numbers get too small.

hmm?

And is this one of those situations?[/quote]

[Jack]

It was assuming that + suggesting the lynch that was scummy.

[Jack]

Vote : Jack

Acting scummy and then thinking someone else is scummy for saying so is distracting to good play. HI-YA!

I don't see why vote hopping like that is scummy. People just assume odd is scummy.

Voting someone for "poor townie play" is scummy.

[Jack]

eh well

unvote

[Jack]

Vote:Skruffs

[Jack]

Unvote,Vote:mumu

[Jack]

Join me, thrawn!

[Jack]

It's time to put some pressure on somebody and watch them squirm.

OK

unvote, Vote:cuban smoker

[Jack]

Unvote,Vote:Yamahako

Seriously man, I like finding scum as much as the next guy, but don't make it

quite

so obvious.

[Jack]

Subtle guidance, Jack?

Oh how CONVENIENT

[Jack]

Unvote,Vote:ubertimmy

[Jack]

Well, I don't have any reasoning

[Jack]

What real game?

[Jack]

The game that doesn't involve you voting for nonsensical reasons in the mid-stage of the day.

If this is mid-stage we're in trouble.

[Jack]

In my opinion it's just as useful to see who will grow "tired" of antics and and vote to eliminate the "cancer/unhelpful townie"...it's often scum.

[Jack]

The town isn't stupid. Dropping random votes here and there isn't going to confuse them. In fact there is no evidence of them being confused, quite the opposite.

The fact that people are talking about it and we have a serious wagon means it does help discussion.

Unvote,Vote:cubsfan4ever

[Jack]

I'm not sure about Jack's role. No more than you are sure of my role..

Jack is a "cancer" because his style of play is unproductive to the town and does not aid us in any way. Voting randomly is distracting and to me suggests odd behavior.

This has already been debunked.

[Jack]

Oh no, not the "

bad vibes

"!

What about my behavior is not consistent with townieness?

[Jack]

Jack - you want to comment on something *other* than votes you are pulling onto yourself?

Well, defending myself puts suspicion on those who accuse me for poor reasons.

@cubsfan: Yes they do. Case in point: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4494&start=0

(game is still going, but I'm dead)

[Jack]

Jack - it can, yes, or you could be doing it as a distraction when you see one of your scum buddies getting pressured. This last time you voted Ubertimmy right after he voted yamo. Now yamo is voting someone who's voting you. Etc, etc, etc.

No one has been under serious pressure this game.

[Jack]

AndrewS and cubsfan.

[Jack]

I'd probably favor Cubsfan.

I'm on the fence with Jack.

Scruffs posts a little too much.

CS got an avatar. That makes me happy.

Yam seems town to me.

In fact- I'm going to go ahead and

Vote:Cubsfan4Ever

and put him at L-3 unless there is any objection.

How does skruffs post too much?

Would you unvote if there were objection? That's weird.

[Jack]

@Jack: Sure I would unvote if there were strong objections. I am a member of the majority in a game of majority rule.

I don't have enough solid evidence to feel so sure of myself that I would go against the majority.

huh? That isn't what you said for one thing:

unless there is any objection.

If one person objects then there is an objection. There doesn't need to be a majority, and you didn't suggest that you would wait until 6 people had objected before removing your vote.

Also, the "

any

" part is worrying. Surely one should wait for a

reasonable

objection.

Members of the minority are much much more likely to worry about going against the majority.

I'd be ok with lynching AbboTT, Cubsfan, or AndrewS.

unvote

I need to think more about where I want my vote.

[Jack]

It still sounds like you are afraid of going against the majority. Since when do townies worry about that? On the other hand it's the prime concern of mafia.

But that's pretty scummy in my book.

Searching for excuses, much?

This is so omgus it's not even funny. What excuses am I searching for, pray tell.

[Jack]

Errr.. Now you are just trying to piss me off. I know you are smarter than that. I'm not going to play your game.

(...Said, of course, as I continue to fall into your trap)

Of course I don't want to go against the majority!

When somebody gets lunched it doesn't matter who came in second place! A vote on somebody who isn't the target of the majority is a wasted vote.

You don't care about voting for scum? Of course you do, but this isn't what you said.

Obvious about what, pal.

[Jack]

Vote:AndrewS

talk more. Why are you so quiet when you voted people earlier for not contributing? Hypocritical, no? If you really found them suspicious you would contribute yourself, so I must conclude you were just picking a common reason without really caring, scum.

[Jack]

who is scummers?

I'm not being ornery :l

[Jack]

I think the AndrewS thing is more along the lines of him seeing a possible easy lynch and jumping on it eagerly. I don't understand your vote for Mert though since he made it clear he was voting AndrewS for several reasons.

I'm voting AndrewS because he kept is vote on me after it became clear I had no restriction because "I wasn't contributing" yet he hasn't contributed at all.

[Jack]

Your nitpickiness is annoying and unproductive.
Unvote, vote: Mert

This isn't true and even if it was why is it worth a vote?

Again what have you done that's productive?

[Jack]

HD we're a couple of days from deadline.

Surely this is fewer people:

Cubsfan4ever -3- (Yamahako, Cuban Smoker, Abbott)
Jack -2- (Skruffs, Cubsfan4ever)
AndrewS -2- (Mert, Jack)
Mert -2- (Thrawn 1020, AndrewS)

[Jack]

jesus christ what is that thing.

not seeing the logic behind the ubertimmy lynch at all. Seriously, lynch a lurker?

[Jack]

ebwop: AndrewS is essentially a lurker

[Jack]

[Jack]

hmm I'm kinda pissed I didn't switch with anyone, especially since it would probably have been cubsfan. I didn't want to mess anything up early on though.