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Post Post #3200 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:34 pm

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Post Post #3201 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:35 pm

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In post 3186, xRECKONERx wrote:It's all Nuwen's fault. Always.
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Post Post #3202 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:36 pm

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TBF i get really nervous and flustered whenever someone is watching me play and as soon as Nuwen came and sat down beside I like freaked out mentally and was just screaming FUCK FUCK FUCK the whole time idk why i get like that
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Post Post #3203 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:40 pm

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try playing on camera... it's ridiculous.
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also, a good way to get over that is to practice is while play testing. Have some sessions where each player has someone over their shoulder to tell them all the things they would have done differently after the game.
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Post Post #3205 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:29 pm

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In post 3199, xRECKONERx wrote:Just got back from a sad excuse for a gameday. Got 2nd, and I only lost because I'm an IDIOT and I tapped the wrong amount of mana for Syncopate (tbf I think he should've let me tap an extra one because it's REL and I specifically asked him how much mana he had available but whatever).
Did you say "Syncopate for X" or just "Syncopate"?
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Post Post #3206 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:37 pm

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Magic Tournament Rules Sec. 4.1 wrote: - Player Communication
There are three categories of information: free, derived and private.


Free information is information to which all players are entitled access without contamination or omissions made by their opponents. If a player is ever unable or unwilling to provide free information to an opponent that has requested it, he or she should call a judge and explain the situation. Free information includes:

• Details of current game actions and past game actions that still affect the game state.
• The name of any object in a public zone.
• The type of any counter in a public zone.
• The physical status (tapped/flipped/unattached ) and current zone of any object.
• Player life totals, poison counter totals, and the game score of the current match.
• The current step and/or phase and which player(s) are active.


Derived information is information to which all players are entitled access, but opponents are not obliged to assist in determining and may require some skill or calculation to determine. Derived information includes:
• The number of any type of objects present in any game zone.
• All characteristics of objects in public zones that are not defined as free information.
• Game Rules, Tournament Policy, Oracle content and any other official information pertaining to the current tournament. Cards are considered to have their Oracle text printed on them.


Private information is information to which players have access only if they are able to determine it from the current visual game state or their own record of previous game actions.

• Any information that is not free or derived is automatically private information.


The following rules govern player communication:

• Players must answer all questions asked of them by a judge completely and honestly, regardless of the type of information requested. Players may request to do so away from the match.
• Players may not represent derived or free information incorrectly.
• Players must answer completely and honestly any specific questions pertaining to free information.
• At Regular REL, all derived information is instead considered free.

Lying to a Tournament Official or intentionally misrepresenting Free or Derived information to your opponent in order to gain an advantage is considered Cheating - Fraud and carries the penalty of Disqualification. Even at REL. Do you think your opponent intentionally told you the wrong number of lands?
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Post Post #3207 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:31 pm

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So What happens when you are playing and the person's buddy tells him, "Hey watch out for his Loxodon Smiters", while we are in the mid of game 2 as I was playing my smiter and he said this because he saw my hand, but since it was 2 vs 1 the judge couldn't do anything.
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Post Post #3208 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:04 pm

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Technically I believe that if the judge doesn't believe it was sought out by the other player (I.E. he told his friend before hand to give him advice.) then there's no penalty for the player being told. In this case the correct course of action (assuming CEL) would be to give the player giving the advice a match loss in their next match. (Unless they are currently playing in one, in which case they would be given a match loss in the current one.)

If the judge feels that it was discussed between them before hand, then it is unsporting conduct major - cheating. They should both be DQd and investigated by the DCI.
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Post Post #3209 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:07 pm

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Also, from your comments it sounds like they also committed unsportmanlike major - cheating by lying to a tournament official.
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Post Post #3210 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:10 pm

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In post 3205, hasdgfas wrote:
In post 3199, xRECKONERx wrote:Just got back from a sad excuse for a gameday. Got 2nd, and I only lost because I'm an IDIOT and I tapped the wrong amount of mana for Syncopate (tbf I think he should've let me tap an extra one because it's REL and I specifically asked him how much mana he had available but whatever).
Did you say "Syncopate for X" or just "Syncopate"?
I said "Okay, Syncopate for 2"
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Post Post #3211 (ISO) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:42 pm

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Yeah... The Judge had a talk with both of them after words. It didn't help when the one who told him about my Smiters was a Level 1 judge.
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Post Post #3212 (ISO) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:47 am

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In post 3210, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 3205, hasdgfas wrote:
In post 3199, xRECKONERx wrote:Just got back from a sad excuse for a gameday. Got 2nd, and I only lost because I'm an IDIOT and I tapped the wrong amount of mana for Syncopate (tbf I think he should've let me tap an extra one because it's REL and I specifically asked him how much mana he had available but whatever).
Did you say "Syncopate for X" or just "Syncopate"?
I said "Okay, Syncopate for 2"
how much mana did he tell you he had?

if he said 1... JUDGEE
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Post Post #3213 (ISO) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:38 am

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He said 1. I said "Syncopate for 2", but only tapped 2 mana instead of 3.
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Post Post #3214 (ISO) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:17 am

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uh
you shouldve been able to tap the third. X costs is paid after announcement of the spell, and you clearly said 2
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Post Post #3215 (ISO) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:55 am

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I'm pretty sure if you announced x as 2 you should have been allowed to pay x as 2. At CEL too.
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Post Post #3216 (ISO) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:57 am

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Because you illegally cast the spell if you announced x as 2 and then played it as x as 1. It the same thing as what happened to fate a while back. Since paying the mana cost is part of casting the spell, you never actually cast it, because the mana cost of the spell you were trying to cast was 3 and you only paid 2.

I could be wrong but I'm reasonably sure about that.
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Post Post #3217 (ISO) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:27 am

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what he said
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Post Post #3218 (ISO) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:52 am

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Tamiyo emblem with only a Psychic Strike in hand is PRETTY STRONG
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Post Post #3219 (ISO) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:18 pm

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if it makes you feel better he got scrubbed out by Blasphemous Act red decks today.

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Post Post #3220 (ISO) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:41 pm

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Post Post #3221 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:41 am

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In post 3218, xRECKONERx wrote:Tamiyo emblem with only a Psychic Strike in hand is PRETTY STRONG
Eventually you run out of mana :<
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Post Post #3223 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:26 am

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So I may now be driving to Barrie on the weekend to play a Modern GPT, with the top prize being 4 foil Ravnica Bobs, and then other good stuff all the way down. I intend to run GW Hate-Vial, and I'd like some critiques on the list:

4 Dryad Militant
4 AEther Vial
4 Path to Exile
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4 Leonin Arbiter
4 Voice of Resurgence
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4 Kitchen Finks
4 Flickerwisp
2 Mirran Crusader
1 Sword of War and Peace
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
2 Angel of Jubilation

4 Ghost Quarter
4 Temple Garden
4 Sunpetal Grove
1 Gavony Township
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2 Aven Mindcensor
2 Rest in Peace
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Post Post #3224 (ISO) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:57 am

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I tried the LSV variant for funsies on Cockatrice. Made some changes: took out the snaps for an Augur/Diss/Sync, traded the Scatter/1 Alchemy/2 Curses for 2 Jace AoT and 2 Far/Away.

Played against Jund, won game 1 lost game 2. Game three ulted Jace, cast Garruk from his deck and eventually ulted him... with a dozen lands because lolUBcontrol.

I asked him at one point if a card was resolving EoT and he responded "I don't play bs colors". #shitjundplayerssay

Only thing I don't like about lacking Snaps is being pretty useless without counterspells in hand. :<
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