Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

Saki · Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:09 am

VOTE: notscience

Saki · Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:31 am

In post 8, NoctanNights wrote:Nice to meet everyone. First game on this site, but I've played before.

lynch notscience and you win

Saki · Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:43 am

In post 14, notscience wrote:Hmm, this wagon looks promising

VOTE: notscience

ikr?
vote, vote!

Saki · Post Post #18 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:51 am

mhmm cats.

Saki · Post Post #21 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:02 am

In post 20, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 13, Malakittens wrote:Hey.

Hey.

I didn't do anything. We both were paranoid and I hate long lylos.
Haha! i know that, i'm just kidding around so we can loosen up and be calm during the game

liar

Saki · Post Post #23 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:06 am

In post 22, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh my, someone's tense already? that's quite interesting
VOTE: Saki

yer wasting yer vote
throw it down on notscience

Saki · Post Post #25 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:09 am

In post 24, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 23, Saki wrote:
In post 22, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh my, someone's tense already? that's quite interesting
VOTE: Saki
yer wasting yer vote
throw it down on notscience
why notscience?

In post 14, notscience wrote:Hmm, this wagon looks promising

Saki · Post Post #29 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:39 am

In post 27, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 26, notscience wrote:Everyone voting the non-cc'd doctor is either scum or bad town
Or the real doctor

Saki

Saki · Post Post #134 (isolation #8) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:07 am

oh my god you guys posted like five pages since I was gone (and none of it has compelling content)

UNVOTE: notscience
VOTE: Syryana

Andy's a useless CO

and what's a "JOAT Survivor"?

Saki · Post Post #140 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:03 am

In post 135, notscience wrote:I'm still curious why a wagon got to L-1 on me by page 2

*looks at Marquis and Rach*

it was L-2.
L-1 is a lie

Saki · Post Post #153 (isolation #10) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:48 am

In post 152, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 151, Marquis wrote:surprising sakura's played like 2 games with me already not to mention the marathon ones so she should already know my meta by now
I have 2 finished games with you? I wasn't aware of it, and why would i grab meta off marathon games?

'cause.
you know..

Saki · Post Post #168 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:48 am

In post 134, Saki wrote:oh my god you guys posted like five pages since I was gone (and none of it has compelling content)

UNVOTE: notscience
VOTE: Syryana

Andy's a useless CO

and what's a "JOAT Survivor"?

why ignore this post

Saki · Post Post #170 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:44 am

In post 169, Marquis wrote:
In post 166, Bert wrote:NVM
unvote

I was going to vote him for post #161, since he's telling us what he likes to do, rather than just playing his own game and doing what he does regardless of what people are saying to him during this RVS period.

I see he's at lynch -3 atm though.
just kind of got to me because i felt like some people should have known this by now but apparently i forgot to explain some things. being temporarily at l-2 just over 24 hours in is simultaneously odd amusing and ominous though

throw me $20 and I'll let you feel it again

Saki · Post Post #181 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:03 pm

Andy's a worthless CO

Saki · Post Post #183 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:23 pm

In post 182, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 181, Saki wrote:Andy's a worthless CO
I agree, does that make Syryana scum tho?

Duh

Saki · Post Post #186 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:36 pm

It's me!

Saki · Post Post #187 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:37 pm

In post 186, Saki wrote:It's me!

or I just don't see how Marquis wagon/Noctan wagon/Honeyscum is serious enough.

Saki · Post Post #191 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:03 pm

VOTE: Sakura Hana
we've had this argument before, ya know

Saki · Post Post #210 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:34 am

In post 209, Bert wrote:Who said it was time to get out of RVS? Sorry I didn't get the memo...

^ this

Saki · Post Post #212 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:37 am

In post 211, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 207, notscience wrote:VOTE: Bert

He's making no attempts to get out of RVS even after being told to multiple times.
Is Bert not wanting to get out of RVS more scummy than Saki's OMGUS?

But wait Bert has an OMGUS too.......

I agree, Bert has more stuff on him.

VOTE: Bert

Yer being awfully floppy with that vote Sakura

Saki · Post Post #215 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:43 am

In post 214, notscience wrote:You two have been posting just as much as myself and Sakura yet have made no avid attempts to get out of RVS.

there's lurkers involved

Saki · Post Post #219 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:46 am

In post 218, Bert wrote:
In post 217, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 216, Bert wrote:
In post 214, notscience wrote:You two have been posting just as much as myself and Sakura yet have made no avid attempts to get out of RVS.
And the rush to get out of RVS is because....

why???
Because it's anti-town
Anti-town is unequal to scummy?

intercepting this

what, how?

Saki · Post Post #223 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:50 am

Already said I'd never read that

Saki · Post Post #227 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:57 am

Still not reading it

Saki · Post Post #232 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:34 am

not reading articles = scum?

dat logic

Saki · Post Post #233 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:37 am

In post 228, Sakura Hana wrote:To start improving at mafia, reading articles, whether they be on the wiki or on the forum are a good start. I really see no reason why not to read information that could help you find scum better. Unless of course, you are scum.

following up, why would I not read 'how to play scum' articles if I was scum, hmm?

gaping holes in this post here.

I like the way this is going again

Saki · Post Post #235 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:39 am

to show that I don't care much for it

(you should infer from now that I'm extremely lazy)

Saki · Post Post #237 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:45 am

In post 236, Sakura Hana wrote:Too lazy to get information? what do you expect to get from voting me without a real reason?

I can get information with my vote and my voice in the game.

No need to do background research into other people's games or articles for meta.

Saki · Post Post #238 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:45 am

I'm finding more and more reasons to keep my vote there btw

Saki · Post Post #257 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:16 am

In post 239, Sakura Hana wrote:Then why did you want to continue in RVS?

You think this is still RVS?

I wanted to proceed in RVS 'cause someone would get mad about it and slip.

In post 249, Sakura Hana wrote:What makes you think my question is pointless? Everything a player does in a game is driven by their wincon. and I have the right to question them about it which will give me more information.

You clearly didn't actually read the article either.

Article's technically not in the game. You can question me, sure but why? Silly questions aren't questions you should be asking too often. Especially questions that derail everything. You aren't going to argue that everything in the thread is scumhunting, right?

Give up on trying to make people read that article.

Saki · Post Post #262 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:20 am

In post 260, Sakura Hana wrote:Saki, when do you plan on starting to scumhunt?

I am. My vote's on you.

Saki · Post Post #293 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:30 am

initiate deathtunnel on Sakura Hana

Saki · Post Post #294 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:31 am

In post 264, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 262, Saki wrote:
In post 260, Sakura Hana wrote:Saki, when do you plan on starting to scumhunt?
I am. My vote's on you.
So? what have you gained from it?

A scumread on you, duh.

Saki · Post Post #295 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:32 am

What still made you think the page before that was me in RVS?

You're getting hung today.

Saki · Post Post #297 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:39 am

In post 296, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 291, Bert wrote:
In post 290, NoctanNights wrote:UNVOTE: Marquis

Bert being scum is possiblez but there isn't much evidence against him.
What are your current reads?
All I know currently is that Mala seems like town. We do need to get out of RVS though.

What makes you think we're still in RVS?

deathtunnel on Sakura failed

Saki · Post Post #299 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:41 am

In post 298, Sakura Hana wrote:Saki, where did you get that scumread from?

gaping logical holes

floppy vote

pushing me

Saki · Post Post #301 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:46 am

In post 300, Sakura Hana wrote:Where?

The whole 'extend RVS is scummy' 'not reading article is scummy' business

In post 300, Sakura Hana wrote:From 1 scumread to another scumread?

So many already? Setting up multiple mislynches, huh.

In post 300, Sakura Hana wrote:How is that scummy?

'cause I'm town?

Saki · Post Post #304 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:03 am

In post 303, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 301, Saki wrote:
In post 300, Sakura Hana wrote:Where?
The whole 'extend RVS is scummy' 'not reading article is scummy' business
The former is indeed scummy, i do admit maybe the later one was a bit too much, but still, you should be striving to get information.

That's all you have to say? 'A bit too much'? What makes you think I'm not trying to get information by extending RVS?

In post 303, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 301, Saki wrote:
In post 300, Sakura Hana wrote:From 1 scumread to another scumread?
So many already? Setting up multiple mislynches, huh.
What makes you think i'm setting up mislynches?

insert paranoia
'cause you took swings at me for something that really isn't anything 'cause you know I'm an easier lynch than the others

In post 303, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 301, Saki wrote:
In post 300, Sakura Hana wrote:How is that scummy?
'cause I'm town?
How am i supposed to know that? Specially if you haven't done anything pro-town the entire game

How is scumhunting not pro-town?
So scumhunting isn't scumhunting if you're my main scumread? noted.

Saki · Post Post #306 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:06 am

In post 305, Sakura Hana wrote:If I'm your main scumread, it means you already did scumhunt, can you cite since when was I your main scumread? with post number/link

238
295
How have I not made it obvious that I think you're scum?

Saki · Post Post #308 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:11 am

In post 304, Saki wrote:That's all you have to say? 'A bit too much'? What makes you think I'm not trying to get information by extending RVS?

In post 304, Saki wrote:'cause you took swings at me for something that really isn't anything 'cause you know I'm an easier lynch than the others

You not replying to those two questions is also noted.

P-EDIT: In 305 you were asking me when I made it clear I was your main scumread. I already explained my reasons for why I think you're scum.

Saki · Post Post #309 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:11 am

In post 308, Saki wrote:
In post 304, Saki wrote:That's all you have to say? 'A bit too much'? What makes you think I'm not trying to get information by extending RVS?

In post 304, Saki wrote:'cause you took swings at me for something that really isn't anything 'cause you know I'm an easier lynch than the others
You not replying to those two questions is also noted.

P-EDIT: In 305 you were asking me when
I made it clear I was your main scumread
. I already explained my reasons for why I think you're scum.

Typo, I meant 'You were my main scumread'

Saki · Post Post #313 (isolation #41) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:16 am

In post 312, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 304, Saki wrote:That's all you have to say? 'A bit too much'? What makes you think I'm not trying to get information by extending RVS?
Because serious stuff is already happening, RVS is just you wanting an excuse to be random from what it seems.

I already said I hardly found the stuff that was happening 'serious.'

I extended RVS because I wanted information for myself.

Saki · Post Post #314 (isolation #42) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:17 am

When will you answer the two questions you missed in 304?

Saki · Post Post #316 (isolation #43) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:20 am

In post 315, Sakura Hana wrote:Then why didnt you question people on their actions?
I already answered them.

Their excuse would be 'it was RVS, who cares.' Why bother to question.

Not the second one.

Saki · Post Post #318 (isolation #44) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:28 am

In post 317, Sakura Hana wrote:Why is it that because it was RVS, they become immune to questioning about it?

stop avoiding the second question

I never said they were immune to questioning I said they were going to reply with the same excuse
'Why did you push the notscience wagon?'
'Hell, it was rvs.'
would you pursue that further?

Saki · Post Post #319 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:29 am

To clarify the second question I'm asking you whether or not you think I'm an easier lynch than the other players in the thread.

Saki · Post Post #322 (isolation #46) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:33 am

I'm not a fan of handing out townreads left and right in an attempt to get towncred

Saki · Post Post #327 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:39 am

In post 324, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 322, Saki wrote:I'm not a fan of handing out townreads left and right
in an attempt to get towncred
what

what it says?

@P-EDIT Explain your thought process on how that was a scumslip.

@50
My reads shift constantly as the day goes on. Making a readslist now and reading 3,4,5 people as town does nothing but hinder me when one of them scumslips and I start pushing them.

Saki · Post Post #329 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:46 am

In post 328, Sakura Hana wrote:Only scum should be bothered with getting town cred, town should be bothered with finding scum.

Is that not what I'm saying?

I'm saying I'd rather question you more than provide reads for 50.

Saki · Post Post #332 (isolation #49) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:49 am

In post 330, Sakura Hana wrote:Not providing reads is denying town of information btw.

Then what is providing reads? Giving information to the town?

Reads without analysis only makes the mafia's job easier.

Saki · Post Post #334 (isolation #50) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:51 am

In post 325, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 319, Saki wrote:To clarify the second question I'm asking you whether or not you think I'm an easier lynch than the other players in the thread.

Not exactly, you are neither easier nor harder
, you're scum tho, so you need to die, that scumslip on my previous post just confirmed it.

Explain the part in bold.

@NS I expected people to make those giant readslists as they always do. I don't like those.
How can you analyze someone gut-reading people based off RVS and two other posts? Too early in the game.

Saki · Post Post #335 (isolation #51) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:52 am

In post 333, notscience wrote:
Reads without analysis allows just a general understanding of where someone stands.
They can be analyzed later to determine alignment. You don't need to wallpost every time someone wants reads.

How is that not more beneficial for mafia than town?

Saki · Post Post #338 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:58 am

In post 336, Sakura Hana wrote:Because i dont judge people for how easy they are to lynch, but for how scummy their actions are.

P-Edit: Reads are beneficial for town, mafia doesnt care about reads because they know everyone's alignment (tho that's a bit different here since it's multiball)

"Mafia doesn't care about reads." Uh-huh. Total bullshit.

In post 337, notscience wrote:I'm not saying ALWAYS do that.

People want GENERAL standings right now, they don't want wallpost reads list. How does just a general reads to figure out where people stand help mafia? You yourself said it's hard to analyze this early in the game, why do we need the analysis now?

I'm not saying we need analysis I'm saying we don't need townreads at all yet.

Saki · Post Post #341 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:03 am

In post 336, Sakura Hana wrote:Because i dont judge people for how easy they are to lynch, but for how scummy their actions are.

P-Edit: Reads are beneficial for town,
mafia doesnt care about reads
because they know everyone's alignment (tho that's a bit different here since it's multiball)

"Oh, X many people gut-read Y as scum. Y isn't me or one of my scumbuddies. Better create a bullshit case and start pushing for the mislynch."
"Oh, X many people gut-read me as town. I should keep up this act so I don't get caught."
"Oh, X many people gut-read me as scum. I'm doing something wrong, better change what I'm doing."

@NS
I'm only talking townreads.
ofc I'll scumhunt with scumreads.

PoE works so well in this game.

@Sakura
Mafia will care about giving reads. It saves face.
Mafia can't provide genuine readslists? What kind of bullcrap is that. Any decent player can provide one, not just mafia. Most readslists are just parroting anyways.

By not giving reads I'm not caring about towncred?

I

am

scumhunting? Otherwise why would I be tunneling you?

Saki · Post Post #342 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:04 am

Do people really agree with Sakura's arguments? They're full off bullshit and intent to get a mislynch off on who she thinks is the easiest lynch target.

Saki · Post Post #343 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:05 am

NS, why jump into a one-on-one with questions for one side only?

Saki · Post Post #345 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:08 am

In post 344, Sakura Hana wrote:Don't forget this game's a multiball tho, so even scum has to scumhunt.

I don't see why they'd have to do it through lynch.

Saki · Post Post #348 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:13 am

In post 347, notscience wrote:
In post 343, Saki wrote:NS, why jump into a one-on-one with questions for one side only?
Because Sakura's correct, and you are ignoring it.

I don't see how she's correct.

You think everything she says is sound? You don't have a single question for her? At all?

If I didn't have such a strong read on Sakura I'd push you.

Saki · Post Post #349 (isolation #58) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:14 am

In post 346, Sakura Hana wrote:Town cred.

All that headache for towncred? Risking their lives for towncred?

I can imagine both sides opting for a mislynch on a townie then taking shots at each other through the night.

Saki · Post Post #354 (isolation #59) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:21 am

In post 351, Sakura Hana wrote:So you'd push anyone that disagrees with you and agrees with me? that makes sense /sarcasm

P-Edit: Except... they you know, dont know who is werewolf from the town. (Same for wolves vs mafia)

They would attempt to get each other lynched? That's putting their lives on the line for a lynch that would most likely hit a townie.

If I were scum I'd play it safe and shoot each other at night. Less questions asked. Town learns nothing new.

I don't want to push NS because NS is agreeing with you?
I want to push NS because NS is agreeing with you

without question

.
Don't twist my words, kthx.

@50 What. I don't play with many townreads. I don't want to go through the trouble of things that are not scumhunting and I'd rather not have to answer questions about 'omfg you thought he was town a second ago.'

Saki · Post Post #356 (isolation #60) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:23 am

In post 353, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:jesus christ

providing lists is protown play for the reasons that ns gave and I am backing up sakura too. providing reads is making yourself accountable because if your reads change you will to explain the progression. yeah scum fake reads all of the time but you have to remember they have to do it for the
entire
so that is a lot of story to keep straight. that is why scum are so reluctant to provide a list of reads like have you noticed noctan popping in to stoke fires but when I asked for reads he disappeared? cos that is looking pretty scummy to me at the mo and it should to you too if you are town.

ns, sakura I think you both are barking up the wrong tree and are giving scum room to hide with your bickering.

I don't think it's protown play just yet because half the people don't have more posts than the mod. Nothing to analyze people on. Therefore providing informations and gut-reads which is extremely beneficial for scum trying to start up a mislynch.

@NS
By sheeping her you're agreeing with her?

Saki · Post Post #358 (isolation #61) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:24 am

If you don't agree with her then tell me why I'm still scum in your eyes.

Pissed at what? What do you think she's pissed at (same question as what are you pissed at)?

@Sakura Hana
Yes I'm lazy?

Saki · Post Post #360 (isolation #62) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:27 am

In post 357, Sakura Hana wrote:I didn't say you didn't want to push NS, what makes you think i did?

In post 354, Saki wrote:I'd rather not have to answer questions about 'omfg you thought he was town a second ago.'

You misrep'd me wanting to push NS.

I don't want to push NS because NS agrees with you.
I want to push NS because NS agrees with you without asking a single question on how/why.

Saki · Post Post #361 (isolation #63) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:27 am

NS, Sakura neither of you are actually taking my posts at face value, right?

Saki · Post Post #365 (isolation #64) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:31 am

In post 362, Sakura Hana wrote:Why would he be asking me a question if he agrees with me?

Agreeing with every single one of your points is not what town should be doing?

If he jumped on my wagon without reading your points at all then he's not town.

Saki · Post Post #366 (isolation #65) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:32 am

50, I've seen worse

Noctan. I thought you were cooking up a readslist.

Saki · Post Post #369 (isolation #66) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:34 am

In post 368, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 354, Saki wrote:
In post 351, Sakura Hana wrote:So you'd push anyone that disagrees with you and agrees with me? that makes sense /sarcasm

P-Edit: Except... they you know, dont know who is werewolf from the town. (Same for wolves vs mafia)
They would attempt to get each other lynched? That's putting their lives on the line for a lynch that would most likely hit a townie.

If I were scum I'd play it safe and shoot each other at night. Less questions asked. Town learns nothing new.

I don't want to push NS because NS is agreeing with you?
I want to push NS because NS is agreeing with you
without question
.
Don't twist my words, kthx.

@50 What. I don't play with many townreads. I don't want to go through the trouble of things that are not scumhunting and I'd rather not have to answer questions about 'omfg you thought he was town a second ago.'
then you are probably going to get lynched cos what you are doing directly helps scum when it is town's job to not give scum places to hide. what you are doing is giving scum a place to hide.

Forcing townreads on people I know nothing about is the way to help town?
Helping scum hide behind a gut town-read is helping town?

Saki · Post Post #372 (isolation #67) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:40 am

In post 371, Sakura Hana wrote:Scum doesn't want to take stances coz then they'd have to fake their story of how their reads switch if they do, and it'd be interesting looking at how they put their partners in their reads.

Oh look at just who that resembles.

Yer saying they wouldn't blatantly fish for towncred by handing out townreads left and right?

Saki · Post Post #376 (isolation #68) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:46 am

In post 374, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 369, Saki wrote:Forcing townreads on people I know nothing about is the way to help town?
Helping scum hide behind a gut town-read is helping town?
why would you force town reads as town? if you town read someone say it. it is not for your benefit it is for the benefit of your team. mafia is a team game, you either win as a team or lose as a team town wins when town find one another and works together. a reads list leaves a trail for teammates to work from in case you die. scum don't like to leave lists cos then they are held accountable. <--- this isn't that hard to understand.

eta: you don't town cred for handing out town reads that is the major flaw in your thinking. you get town cred for making town posts.

town role pm>>>>town motivation>>>>town posts

sigh
I'm bad at townreading people so I'm not handing out townreads.

Sakura you're an example of how easy lying is.

Saki · Post Post #378 (isolation #69) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:47 am

"Saki is scum for not reading my article"

Saki · Post Post #379 (isolation #70) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:48 am

or "saki is scum" in general

Saki · Post Post #380 (isolation #71) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:49 am

In post 376, Saki wrote:
In post 374, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 369, Saki wrote:Forcing townreads on people I know nothing about is the way to help town?
Helping scum hide behind a gut town-read is helping town?
why would you force town reads as town? if you town read someone say it. it is not for your benefit it is for the benefit of your team. mafia is a team game, you either win as a team or lose as a team town wins when town find one another and works together. a reads list leaves a trail for teammates to work from in case you die. scum don't like to leave lists cos then they are held accountable. <--- this isn't that hard to understand.

eta: you don't town cred for handing out town reads that is the major flaw in your thinking. you get town cred for making town posts.

town role pm>>>>town motivation>>>>town posts
sigh
I'm bad at townreading people so I'm not handing out townreads.

following up
since I'm so bad at them I don't hand them out very often

'cause it's just so possible that I might be wrong

Saki · Post Post #384 (isolation #72) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:57 am

@Noctan
the fuck are you trying to say

@50
So not reading an article is a scumtell? Hmmm better post supermarket tabloids

"Genuinely Scumreading." Why would scum need to scumread anyone else? I don't think her scumread is anywhere near genuine.
If you're telling me my scumread is wrong I'm telling you it's right.
And why would I look beyond my top scumread? There aren't any special circumstances yet.

Saki · Post Post #399 (isolation #73) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:20 am

In post 392, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 384, Saki wrote:@Noctan
the fuck are you trying to say

@50
So not reading an article is a scumtell? Hmmm better post supermarket tabloids

"Genuinely Scumreading." Why would scum need to scumread anyone else? I don't think her scumread is anywhere near genuine.
If you're telling me my scumread is wrong I'm telling you it's right.
And why would I look beyond my top scumread? There aren't any special circumstances yet.
I never said that not reading an article is a scumtell do not fucking put words in my mouth again.

I am telling you that your scumread is wrong.

cos you should be looking at what is going on around you at all times if you are town. there is more than 1 scum and in fact there are 2 teams so you should be extra alert

You gave off the impression that you were saying that not reading an article was a scumtell?
"If you didn't read the article how is she lying"
Make your fucking posts clear if you don't want me to do that.

I'm telling you it's right.

What makes you think I'm actually tunneling sakura

@noctan
What. Please do something else

Saki · Post Post #400 (isolation #74) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:21 am

In post 394, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 389, notscience wrote:I have never been called sketchy

Who is scum Noctan?

Pedit- Wrong, I'm sheeping Sakura. Get your facts straight.
Saki is tunneling so that makes him a possibility. And don't worry notscience, I still love yous. I don't think you're scum, but I did for a minute earlier.

tunnelling is a scumread

ok

Saki · Post Post #404 (isolation #75) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:37 am

Enlighten me on how 402 and 403 helps town more than it helps scum.

Saki · Post Post #411 (isolation #76) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:43 am

Get away with what? Tunneling Sakura? So, I'm not scumhunting by tunneling on my main scumread?

If I went head to head with Sakura then why aren't you claiming that Sakura is tunneling me?

Wait all of you actually think her case against me is based off of solid reasoning?
All of you actually think I'm tunneling Sakura?

Saki · Post Post #412 (isolation #77) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:44 am

that's a response to 405, sorry

Saki · Post Post #413 (isolation #78) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:45 am

In post 405, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 327, Saki wrote:My reads shift constantly as the day goes on. Making a readslist now and reading 3,4,5 people as town does nothing but hinder me when one of them scumslips and I start pushing them.
I have no problem with getting people lynched when I call them town and lynch them two posts later. You wouldn't either if your reasoning was strong enough.

missed this one too

I don't think my reasoning is anywhere near strong so yes I have a problem with that.

Saki · Post Post #415 (isolation #79) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:55 am

In post 414, RachMarie wrote:and if she flips town then what Saki? Who will you look at then? There are after all 2 mafia scumz and 2 ww scumz...

Yet all your attention is on just ONE player...

did you miss me calling notscience scummy entirely?

did you miss me questioning noctan, too?

Saki · Post Post #416 (isolation #80) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:05 pm

Call me stupid but I just realized that this was the game I built a L-2 wagon on ns in

Yet rvs seemed to go on for much longer

Everyone ignored it completely

I'm having problems with that now

Can we like go back in time to 12 pages ago

Saki · Post Post #420 (isolation #81) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:31 pm

I don't think that's PM atm

Saki · Post Post #422 (isolation #82) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:34 pm

clarification

I have zero self-confidence

hence why I was not going to provide townreads (I might be wrong, no?)
but instead of zero self-confidence I wanted an excuse

mfw sakura takes that as a scumread then turns it into a case against me

*cries*

Saki · Post Post #423 (isolation #83) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:35 pm

What. Hydras confuse me

What does everyone think of 416 or the L-2 wagon on ns

like

you're begging for town information

but all of you are letting that be buried

Saki · Post Post #425 (isolation #84) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:36 pm

@50
I have problems with reading someone that I have not directly talked to yet.

Saki · Post Post #428 (isolation #85) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:39 pm

i'd rather scumread 'cause I've actually scumread someone right

i'd rather not townread 'cause I have not actually townread someone right...yet.

Saki · Post Post #430 (isolation #86) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:40 pm

if i wanted everyone to be happy I'd string myself up btw

Saki · Post Post #432 (isolation #87) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:48 pm

In post 430, Saki wrote:if i wanted everyone to be happy I'd string myself up btw

i dont want to do that
but i still want people to be happy..hmmm

ok

i get it

i will truthfully answer all underlined questions towards me about anything

anything

*disclaimer*
questions regarding my alignment "are you town?" will go largely ignored

P-EDIT
who the hell is there to talk to (btw I'm trying with 416)
afaik Sakura was the only one that was on

also I'm way more used to being on the receiving end of questions.

Saki · Post Post #434 (isolation #88) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:51 pm

In post 433, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:so what do you think of noctan's list and what nacho has said about it?

that list is everything i argued for when i said 'stupid information that helps maf more than town'

noctan atm is blatantly newbscum especially 'cause of that list

Saki · Post Post #435 (isolation #89) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:52 pm

I might lie if you dont underline it btw.

or would I regardless?

Saki · Post Post #437 (isolation #90) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:58 pm

fine, i guess

note that i started scumreading noctan after i duked it all out with sakura

at that point i was like
what the hell it's me or her

Saki · Post Post #439 (isolation #91) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:02 pm

was sheeping gm

Saki · Post Post #440 (isolation #92) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:03 pm

and bungle and notscience

Saki · Post Post #445 (isolation #93) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:06 pm

In post 441, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 432, Saki wrote:i will truthfully answer all underlined questions towards me about anything
anything

Who are your townreads and why?
Who are your scumreads and why?
Why is it necessary for me to underline my questions to get answers out of you?

town? errr
maybe marquis. maybe you.

scumreads.
noctan notscience sakura (that order of strength)

easier to notice. italics are hard to see and bold is confusing for the mod

not voting noctan 'cause i need to look at everyone else. (like everyone else has been saying!)

please can someone provide feedback on p2 ns wagon

I didn't do that for nothing

Saki · Post Post #449 (isolation #94) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:09 pm

derp not marquis, rm

'him' as in who?

nuuuuuuu.....
I still think she's scum.

Saki · Post Post #451 (isolation #95) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:09 pm

underline.

yes I'm vain

you still deserve my vote sakura

Saki · Post Post #455 (isolation #96) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:11 pm

In post 450, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 445, Saki wrote:town? errr
maybe marquis. maybe you.

scumreads.
noctan notscience sakura (that order of strength)
I asked why as well.

ah.

noctan for bad post timing, blatant question dodging, readslist that doesn't help us at all
notscience for jumping in on an active interrogation with no reason other than scumminess to be there
sakura for ...well. false logic and misrepping several of my posts to say what she wants me to say

Saki · Post Post #457 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:13 pm

In post 453, Sakura Hana wrote:@Saki: Why are you townreading RM?
@Noctan: Scott HAS posted... i'd imagine you have a null on him due to lack of overall posts but why are you saying "hasn't posted"? Why do you think Saki's scum? Why do you think I am town?

threw out a name there randomly

but.

In post 402, RachMarie wrote:more later after I ISO some folks

if rm doesn't follow with this she's not town

Saki · Post Post #458 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:14 pm

In post 456, Sakura Hana wrote:False logic where? Misrepping where?

how many times do I have to say 'omfg saki is scum for not reading my article' is false logic

yes you did misrep me lemme dig up the posts.

Saki · Post Post #459 (isolation #99) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:15 pm

307
351

Saki · Post Post #461 (isolation #100) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:17 pm

In post 460, Malakittens wrote:Are you really asking someone to underline a question thats directed towards you?

Da hell is this shit.

vanity

Saki · Post Post #464 (isolation #101) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:19 pm

In post 462, Sakura Hana wrote:"threw out a name there randomly"

Do you realize we're out of RVS since several pages ago right?

I never intended to say you were scum for not reading it, re-read my post where I said that, I might have infered it, but was never my intention, my original reason for suspecting you was that you remained in RVS despite the fact that I was trying to drag us out of RVS by questioning you, then you OMGUS'd me, then Bert defended you with more RVS, then i showed the article about RVS, then you started acting anti-town overall, and then you told me that you voted me while you STILL HADN'T SCUMREAD ME, so that's why I voted you.

i scumread you the moment you pulled out that article

what do you say about 416.

Saki · Post Post #465 (isolation #102) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:20 pm

In post 463, notscience wrote:Why am I scum?

That reasoning doesn't fly with me.

two players going one on one?
better have questions for one side only

you sheep sakura but you don't agree with all her points
= you just want to get on a wagon
= not town

Saki · Post Post #466 (isolation #103) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:21 pm

In post 464, Saki wrote:
In post 462, Sakura Hana wrote:"threw out a name there randomly"

Do you realize we're out of RVS since several pages ago right?

I never intended to say you were scum for not reading it, re-read my post where I said that, I might have infered it, but was never my intention, my original reason for suspecting you was that you remained in RVS despite the fact that I was trying to drag us out of RVS by questioning you, then you OMGUS'd me, then Bert defended you with more RVS, then i showed the article about RVS, then you started acting anti-town overall, and then you told me that you voted me while you STILL HADN'T SCUMREAD ME, so that's why I voted you.
i scumread you the moment you pulled out that article

what do you say about 416.

also what the hell is wrong with keeping your vote on someone once a scumread has developed

Saki · Post Post #469 (isolation #104) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:23 pm

brb an hour or so

I'll get to every single question, take my word for it

Saki · Post Post #473 (isolation #105) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:57 pm

back sooner than expected

Saki · Post Post #474 (isolation #106) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:04 pm

In post 468, Sakura Hana wrote:Saki: The thing with you is that you're tunnelvisioning, you're only looking at things from YOUR Point of view, Look at it from my PoV as if I was town, would I know your alignment? No, then what do I do to know your alignment? constantly question your actions. Who has higher chance to be scum then? The people who are right now sitting there doing nothing like Scott or Marquis and just sitting back enjoying watching us rabble.

I still think you're scum tho, until you prove to me that you can actually engage in scumhunting without tunnelvisioning on 1 person.

P-Edit: You scumread me for trying to teach you, that's nice, I guess you lynch ICs on all your newbie games then.

Now tell me one thing Saki, what do you think it's the most optimal scum strategy in the current situation, and who do you think fits that model the most.

P-Edit x2: If it's a stronger scumread, it means that for YOU it has higher chances of flipping scum, so why would you be voting the one that has less chances of flipping scum?

You accuse me of tunneling. Yes I'm 'tunneling.' You're 'tunneling' too.

Note that I don't know your alignment either. And if you try to lynch me it's only right that I'd think you're scum.

If someone talks about killing you irl he's either an asshole or a crook. I assumed you were the latter.

How, by posting 416, scumreading noctan, scumreading notscience, and answering all of the questions thrown at me am I still tunneling you?
Stop flinging shit at me.

If you're afraid of lurkers, then shut the fuck up about me and go do something else about it.

Sure. Teaching me. where's the 'saki that's scummy don't do that'
you came out with a whip cracking above your head going OMFG SAKI IS SCUM
tell me, if I had stopped then would you not have called me out going 'omfg saki did that cause he's scum getting caught'?

most optimal scum strategy is HaT
work together to mislynch townie
shoot at each other based on deduction afterwards

'cause I feel like it?
stop freaking out over my vote if you think I'm scum
actually tell me your response to 416
then I'll unvote you

In post 467, notscience wrote:I said I did agree with all of her points.

and I'm calling that scummy

In post 470, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:I just wonder why if noctan is a stronger scumread and a more viable lynch (hint there is a wagon on him) why you would not make more use of your vote. it is useless on sakura.

i made it useful now, ok

Saki · Post Post #475 (isolation #107) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:05 pm

In post 472, Sakura Hana wrote:Also Saki, i'm not misrepping you, I asked you to show me where you scumread me, and you linked me posts that happened after your vote, which means that when you voted you weren't scumreading me.

P-Edit: Sure can, whenever they decide to get back into the game because I don't see how it's going to help talking to a wall, if they keep being innactive for longer i'll start pressuring them with votes tho.

you don't think ns is suspicious?

Saki · Post Post #477 (isolation #108) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:14 pm

UNVOTE:
But you're saying that you're not attacking town you're attacking scum. I don't get why you have to justify attacking me if I'm town if you're so sure that you're scum. You know something that I don't?

I pushed it so it's scumdriven, huh. I asked you to vote notscience yet you didn't do so, did you?

jumping in to 1v1 with questions for only one side is town?

lastly,
stop flinging shit at me
stop tunneling me

Saki · Post Post #478 (isolation #109) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:15 pm

also you keep talking about PoV
but
you've never actually left yours

Saki · Post Post #479 (isolation #110) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:21 pm

btw when I was mentioning 416 I was referencing that you said 'extending RVS' was a scumtell

L-2 on ns should have been enough to get us out of rvs

we still continued, why?

if you think I'm scum for trying to extend rvs then why not look at p2

Saki · Post Post #482 (isolation #111) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:26 pm

newp.
not gonna try.

if ns and you can not bother to read my posts 'cause I am scum
I have no reason to read your posts closely unless there's a question for me in it.

@mala
what the fuck?

Saki · Post Post #489 (isolation #112) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:30 pm

In post 483, notscience wrote:
In post 465, Saki wrote:
In post 463, notscience wrote:Why am I scum?

That reasoning doesn't fly with me.
two players going one on one?
better have questions for one side only

you sheep sakura but you don't agree with all her points
= you just want to get on a wagon
= not town
Saki, make up your fucking mind.

I'm either scummy for not agreeing, or scummy for agreeing, but you've gone back on what you've said several times.

yer scummy for jumping in regardless of whether you agree or not

Saki · Post Post #490 (isolation #113) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:30 pm

In post 485, notscience wrote:I am reading your posts, stop misrepping me and saying I'm not.

Noctan what the fuck are you doing

391

Saki · Post Post #492 (isolation #114) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:31 pm

Hold up

Sakura WHAT THE FUCK?
o_o

you gave me such a bad headache

@Noctan
that's a pokemon

Saki · Post Post #493 (isolation #115) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:32 pm

town points to anyone that can guess my AV

Saki · Post Post #494 (isolation #116) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:33 pm

In post 491, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 485, notscience wrote:I am reading your posts, stop misrepping me and saying I'm not.

Noctan what the fuck are you doing

Reading your post, tiny blue creature.
But seriously, is your avitar from some show or something? I think I've seen it somewhere.

if you've seen it somewhere you must tell me where
I even have my pokeball ready

Saki · Post Post #497 (isolation #117) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:35 pm

In post 495, Sakura Hana wrote:Because i'm trying to teach you, i'm showing you why doing what you were doing was a bad idea, only way to do it is engaging with you in questions, as you saw all other players agreed on what you were doing being scummy, and I wanted to show you why, since then, untli the PoV situation.

what am i supposed to say

'great job!'
'thank you!'

?

@noc
dammit

Saki · Post Post #499 (isolation #118) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:38 pm

In post 498, notscience wrote:Saki, you are calling me scum for jumping into an argument and pressuring you? Really?

yes, seemed like opportunistic scum.

Saki · Post Post #501 (isolation #119) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:39 pm

In post 500, notscience wrote:Pressuring=opportunism?

Lmfao. There was one fucking vote on you, and mine was opportunism.

I don't get why a townie would jump into a one on one with a vote.

Saki · Post Post #502 (isolation #120) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:41 pm

In post 501, Saki wrote:
In post 500, notscience wrote:Pressuring=opportunism?

Lmfao. There was one fucking vote on you, and mine was opportunism.
I don't get why a townie would jump into a one on one with a vote.

I townread 50 for stopping it.
I scumread you for aggravating it.

Saki · Post Post #508 (isolation #121) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:46 pm

In post 504, notscience wrote:Why would a townie jump in? Pressure to help get answers.

You think I'm scum because I think your scumread is town and am defending them? Really? Try again.

You actually believed
that someone that said
"omg you're scum for not reading X"
was serious about lynching

@Sakura what question. was it directed at me?

Saki · Post Post #510 (isolation #122) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:47 pm

Nevermind it was for noc

Saki · Post Post #513 (isolation #123) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:48 pm

gah fuck you guys for not letting me post

you are aware that I knew you planned to do this all along, sakura?

not the way i imagined you to do it tbh.

Saki · Post Post #516 (isolation #124) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:53 pm

In post 515, Sakura Hana wrote:I'm WAITING... couldnt you just have posted them earlier when you took quite some break since your last post?

not really, only like an hour and a half

Saki · Post Post #519 (isolation #125) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:56 pm

In post 518, Sakura Hana wrote:an hour and a half is a good enough time to get quotes or post links.

Also do remember he's scum reading you, so he's scum too?

I already said he's scum.

No point in questioning him though, watching him champion dodge everything and all

btw don't you have someone else to get back to Sakura?

Saki · Post Post #520 (isolation #126) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:56 pm

In post 513, Saki wrote:gah fuck you guys for not letting me post

you are aware that I knew you planned to do this all along, sakura?

not the way i imagined you to do it tbh.

you aren't reading me further based on this, too?

Saki · Post Post #528 (isolation #127) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:07 pm

In post 525, Bert wrote:
In post 502, Saki wrote:
In post 501, Saki wrote:
In post 500, notscience wrote:Pressuring=opportunism?

Lmfao. There was one fucking vote on you, and mine was opportunism.
I don't get why a townie would jump into a one on one with a vote.
I townread 50 for stopping it.
I scumread you for aggravating it.
So what is the summary of your point totals? Do you see this as an effective scumhunting tool?

clarify this question i do not understand it

Saki · Post Post #529 (isolation #128) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:09 pm

In post 522, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 474, Saki wrote:If someone talks about killing you irl he's either an asshole or a crook.
but when it's a game where we're all killing each other, this is a bit invalid.

my subtle way of calling everyone that votes me an asshole

Saki · Post Post #532 (isolation #129) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:16 pm

In post 530, Bert wrote:Why did you townread 50...what does that mean?

I townread 50 shades of purple.

Saki · Post Post #533 (isolation #130) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:16 pm

In post 531, notscience wrote:Saki is basically attacking anyone who doubts he's town.

why would I not

Saki · Post Post #534 (isolation #131) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:16 pm

In post 533, Saki wrote:
In post 531, notscience wrote:Saki is basically attacking anyone who doubts he's town.
why would I not

but I don't see myself attacking noc anywhere

Saki · Post Post #537 (isolation #132) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:22 pm

My case on both of you is more than omgus.

I'm starting to think you're scummier for trying to dismiss it with omgus

Saki · Post Post #539 (isolation #133) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:29 pm

In post 538, notscience wrote:That's nice.

Your "case" is essentially saying I'm scum for pressuring you. Lmfao. Sakura did the same thing, she's scum to you.

Bring it on.

explain, then, if pressuring me is town

is 50 shades of purple scum for breaking up the one on one?

Saki · Post Post #541 (isolation #134) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:30 pm

In post 540, Bert wrote:you're being pretty defensive, Saki. I want to say newbtown, but you're not new? But the defensiveness seems to be a little overboard, so are you trying to rile people up and get reactions, or what? Or are you using that to cover up your calm, calculated part of you.

Do you panic when you get put at lynch -1?

I have one game completed on site.

Yes, I scumhunt by answering questions and reaction fishing.

Yes I panic
my hair falls out in clumps

Saki · Post Post #544 (isolation #135) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:32 pm

In post 542, Marquis wrote:let's not focus just on saki now
i've been watching for a while but idk what to say on this other than that everything in the last few pages seems to involve saki in one way or another
why

i like the spotlight?

Saki · Post Post #545 (isolation #136) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:33 pm

In post 543, notscience wrote:Saki, pressuring people makes them show more motivations then not pressuring them. How is finding motivations not town?

so 50 shades is scum to you, amirite

that was the question

Saki · Post Post #549 (isolation #137) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:37 pm

In post 546, notscience wrote:No, 50 shades is town. Not for defusing it. But I'm liking the questions they're asking.

So defusing a 1v1 is a scumtell?

sorry to beat around the bush so much

Saki · Post Post #551 (isolation #138) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:38 pm

In post 547, Sakura Hana wrote:So you appear as soon as I mention you Marquis.
Noted.

you aren't phased by the fact that my scumread on you has not disappeared yet?

Saki · Post Post #553 (isolation #139) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:44 pm

In post 552, NoctanNights wrote:....I hate this tablet. The Internet died and I lost everything I wrote.

Anyway, the only person who I'm more suspicious of is Saki, really. He seems to be extremely defensive, and offensive to those who vote him, he tunnled Sakura like a freaking miner, etc. As for others, Mala and 50 get a townread from me, but as for anyone else I'm not sure.

I'm sorry, I thought you said your next post was a list?

Saki · Post Post #555 (isolation #140) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:47 pm

In post 554, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 553, Saki wrote:
In post 552, NoctanNights wrote:....I hate this tablet. The Internet died and I lost everything I wrote.

Anyway, the only person who I'm more suspicious of is Saki, really. He seems to be extremely defensive, and offensive to those who vote him, he tunnled Sakura like a freaking miner, etc. As for others, Mala and 50 get a townread from me, but as for anyone else I'm not sure.
I'm sorry, I thought you said your next post was a list?
I fucking lost it all. I'm not typing it again, so go ahead and ask me for reasons of a specific person, I'l quote them and give you my own reasons as well. I'm not typing all of that shit over again for now.

Saki · Post Post #561 (isolation #141) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:24 pm

In post 560, Syryana wrote:
@Mod: Replace me out

Can't handle this pace, sorry folks.

andy can fix that!

Saki · Post Post #562 (isolation #142) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:24 pm

In post 558, Bert wrote:
In post 551, Saki wrote:
In post 547, Sakura Hana wrote:So you appear as soon as I mention you Marquis.
Noted.
you aren't phased by the fact that my scumread on you has not disappeared yet?
Do you think Sakura's scumread is backed by a strong argument/case?

she just backed out of her scumread

if you hadn't noticed.

Saki · Post Post #563 (isolation #143) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:24 pm

In post 556, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 551, Saki wrote:
In post 547, Sakura Hana wrote:So you appear as soon as I mention you Marquis.
Noted.
you aren't phased by the fact that my scumread on you has not disappeared yet?
Nope, why does it concern you?

would help me to read you

your AV changed again >_>

Saki · Post Post #564 (isolation #144) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:26 pm

In post 486, Sakura Hana wrote:I've been townreading you ever since the whole reads thing came into play, i kept pressuring you to make you realize why it's bad to tunnel people by continuing my pressure on you, yes I did lie about scumreading you from that point onwards, however I hope you have learned from this experience, and hope you have learned why your posts could be perceived as scummy helping scum jump onto you

VOTE: Marquis
I need you (and a few others) to start commenting, pitch in.

P-Edit: noctan if you're Mason and Monk, tell us who's your partner before you die, otherwise remove your vote and give us reasons for your reads, all of them.

clarifying question

I predicted this coming. Does that bother you?

Saki · Post Post #567 (isolation #145) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:30 pm

In post 566, notscience wrote:It's a nulltell Saki.

what is, clarify

Saki · Post Post #568 (isolation #146) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:31 pm

@Sakura
I'm not liking what you did though.

you realize people could get the wrong impression that we're scumbuddies, right
coaching AND distancing at the same time, convenient

Saki · Post Post #570 (isolation #147) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:37 pm

In post 569, notscience wrote:
In post 567, Saki wrote:
In post 566, notscience wrote:It's a nulltell Saki.
what is, clarify
Trying to stop the fighting.

Town applications- Less noise

Scum applications- Cover for partner.

Considering most D1 one-on-ones tend to be town v town wouldn't stopping the fighting be a towntell? Preventing that mislynch and all.

Saki · Post Post #575 (isolation #148) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:52 pm

trying out the PoV stuff

If sakura is town:
She actually gets a genuine scumread on me
Pushes/pressures me
My reactions continue to tell her that I'm newbtown
about to clear me
then that scumslip
conflicted now, keeps pressuring
notscience shows up, hops in
RM/50SOP show up, townread me, pressures me as well
I continue to make townie reactions
Sakura starts thinking I'm town
She needs a graceful way out
bam she's out.

If sakura is scum:
RVS seems to be slowing down for her
oh look Saki and Bert
pressure
Bert looks like he won't crack
Oh, right, Saki's a newb
pressures me
I scumslip
pressures me harder
then ns pressures me
then RM/50SOP townreads
you're accused of tunneling
my posts against you actually make coherence now
'oh shit i better stop'
needs graceful way out
gets out.

P-EDIT
WHAT THE FUCK?

Saki · Post Post #579 (isolation #149) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:57 pm

In post 572, notscience wrote:Wait a fucking minute

You just said most of this D1 is TvT, yet you're scumreading Sakura because of that and stating 50 wanted to stop the mislynch.

SCUMSLIP CENTRAL HERE FOLKS GET IT WHILE ITS HOT

You do realize...I was about to clear Sakura

and I was generalizing about 1v1 D1 being mostly town.

besides, I believe there are people who think this is town v town

and I certainly think that was 50SOP's reason to break the 1v1

p-edit
@NS
Why would I do anything else but try to get you to read me as town?
A townie would be okay with getting rope?
Okay it's not like I don't mind dying but I haven't even made my stance clear on half the people here
I don't think a lynch on me would provide enough information for town yet.

@sakura
what.
you should agree that we were tunneling each other for a while.
not anymore.

I don't like how NS is tunneling me now

Saki · Post Post #580 (isolation #150) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:57 pm

note that everyone will slip when questioned enough.
*sigh*
I guess that's a risk I have to take

on the other hand I slipped once before

Saki · Post Post #583 (isolation #151) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:04 pm

In post 581, NoctanNights wrote:VOTE: Saki

Sorry but that kind of proves things.

what the fuck
you know I FOS anyone that votes me

yet you vote me

Do you seriously have enough against me to think I'm scum or are you just hopping on a wagon?

Saki · Post Post #584 (isolation #152) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:05 pm

In post 582, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 578, Sakura Hana wrote:P-Edit: Saki, you just scumslipped...

I take this back, When i read that stuff in preview edit i thought it was only NS and Saki posting and i read Noctan's post as if it was Saki's
, no scumslip there in that case.

what

that would be noctan's scumslip then?

Saki · Post Post #588 (isolation #153) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:13 pm

In post 586, Sakura Hana wrote:Not in his scenario, if you had said it it would have been seen as you accusing NS of voting their enemy, ergo, you being their enemy as in you admitting you're scum, from Nocton's perspective is not a scumslip because he cannot know your alignment unless you're both on the same team.

Ah. I see.
You're seriously not bothered by everything I'm saying now?

Saki · Post Post #592 (isolation #154) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:17 pm

In post 590, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 560, Syryana wrote:
@Mod: Replace me out

Can't handle this pace, sorry folks.

I feel like such a jerk

Saki · Post Post #593 (isolation #155) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:18 pm

In post 591, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 588, Saki wrote:
In post 586, Sakura Hana wrote:Not in his scenario, if you had said it it would have been seen as you accusing NS of voting their enemy, ergo, you being their enemy as in you admitting you're scum, from Nocton's perspective is not a scumslip because he cannot know your alignment unless you're both on the same team.
Ah. I see.
You're seriously not bothered by everything I'm saying now?
Yes i am because you haven't learned anything from what i was trying teaching you, your argument with NS and Nocton shows as much.

I have learned. What makes you think I haven't?

NS is just being a dick ._.
What argument with Noc

Saki · Post Post #595 (isolation #156) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:21 pm

In post 594, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 583, Saki wrote:
In post 581, NoctanNights wrote:VOTE: Saki

Sorry but that kind of proves things.
what the fuck

you know I FOS anyone that votes me

yet you vote me

Do you seriously have enough against me to think I'm scum or are you just hopping on a wagon?
That

I caught my first scum by FOSing the person that drove a wagon on me

Saki · Post Post #596 (isolation #157) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:22 pm

In post 595, Saki wrote:
In post 594, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 583, Saki wrote:
In post 581, NoctanNights wrote:VOTE: Saki

Sorry but that kind of proves things.
what the fuck

you know I FOS anyone that votes me

yet you vote me

Do you seriously have enough against me to think I'm scum or are you just hopping on a wagon?
That
I caught my first scum by FOSing the person that drove a wagon on me

Why would acting newbtown then jumping on the people who try to lynch me be a bad idea?

Well I can see a lot of ways it would be bad

never mind I'm sorry

Saki · Post Post #598 (isolation #158) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:26 pm

In post 597, Sakura Hana wrote:What makes you think the first person driving the wagon on you is actually scum? specially with the way you're acting.

worked in newb1379
._.

Saki · Post Post #601 (isolation #159) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:30 pm

made that clear in 596

Saki · Post Post #603 (isolation #160) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:31 pm

In post 602, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 591, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 588, Saki wrote:
In post 586, Sakura Hana wrote:Not in his scenario, if you had said it it would have been seen as you accusing NS of voting their enemy, ergo, you being their enemy as in you admitting you're scum, from Nocton's perspective is not a scumslip because he cannot know your alignment unless you're both on the same team.
Ah. I see.
You're seriously not bothered by everything I'm saying now?
Yes i am because you haven't learned anything from what i was trying teaching you, your argument with NS and Nocton shows as much.

Everybody spells my damn name wrong.

you can't be random
only I can

You aren't refuting my reasons for saying you're scum?

Saki · Post Post #605 (isolation #161) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:32 pm

So now that you say my strategy for scumhunting is total bullshit

You're keeping your townread on me?
that's kinda wierd.

@Sakura
was going to ask you this oh well

Saki · Post Post #606 (isolation #162) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:34 pm

Still wondering what the hell I'm going to do.

Going to make that list first of all.

50SOP
town

Sakura
leaning slightly town

NS
jerk

or scum

Noc
high. or scum

Realized I probably need ISOs and a re-read to make an actual list. (Or responses to the mess I created.)

Saki · Post Post #608 (isolation #163) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:47 pm

In post 607, notscience wrote:
In post 595, Saki wrote:
In post 594, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 583, Saki wrote:
In post 581, NoctanNights wrote:VOTE: Saki

Sorry but that kind of proves things.
what the fuck

you know I FOS anyone that votes me

yet you vote me

Do you seriously have enough against me to think I'm scum or are you just hopping on a wagon?
That
I caught my first scum by FOSing the person that drove a wagon on me

:L I caught DP Scum.

I built the wagon!

Saki · Post Post #612 (isolation #164) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:02 pm

In post 611, notscience wrote:
In post 251, Messiah wrote:
Newbie 1379 - Votecount 1.8

Future (L-1) - goodmorning, Slyther, Edosurist, Antagon
DoctorPepper (L-3) - Future, notscience
Saki (L-4) - DoctorPepper

manilai (L-4) - Antagon

With nine alive it takes five to lynch.

(2)
Not voting
- DiplomatDC, Saki

Current Phase Deadline: (expired on 2013-06-06 21:00:00)
@Saki

I built the wagon and lurked for hammer.
I was terribly surprised noone called me out on it.

Saki · Post Post #614 (isolation #165) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:04 pm

In post 613, notscience wrote:Bullshit, I built that wagon. Everyone was content on lynching Future but I built the DP wagon.

Anyways.

future FoS'd DP before you even replaced in ._.
I consolidated his FoS

Saki · Post Post #616 (isolation #166) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:10 pm

welp w.e we're getting off-track

Saki · Post Post #618 (isolation #167) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:12 pm

In post 617, notscience wrote:Getting?

off-track
we left the thread a long time ago

Saki · Post Post #619 (isolation #168) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:12 pm

VOTE: NoctanNights

Saki · Post Post #623 (isolation #169) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:42 pm

In post 622, NoctanNights wrote:Are we allowed a post after we're dead?

In post 1, fferyllt wrote:- Nightkilled or modkilled players may make one "bah" post that doesn't contain any game-related content if you wish to make it, but you must thereafter stop posting in the game., Lynched and living players may continue to talk during twilight as long as they follow all of the rules.

Saki · Post Post #626 (isolation #170) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:48 pm

You guys are stupid. that's L-1

Saki · Post Post #628 (isolation #171) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:51 pm

Claim when someone declares intent to hammer, please.

Saki · Post Post #630 (isolation #172) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:56 pm

In post 629, NoctanNights wrote:I played extremely badly on this game anyway. Can't recover.

You saw me fight my way back >_>

Saki · Post Post #631 (isolation #173) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:57 pm

In post 630, Saki wrote:
In post 629, NoctanNights wrote:I played extremely badly on this game anyway. Can't recover.
You saw me fight my way back >_>

It's also not too late to start fighting back. ._.

Saki · Post Post #633 (isolation #174) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:59 pm

In post 632, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 630, Saki wrote:
In post 629, NoctanNights wrote:I played extremely badly on this game anyway. Can't recover.
You saw me fight my way back >_>
And you expect me to WANT to fight back? Hellz no. I deserve this.

Yes I expect you to want to fight back.

Saki · Post Post #634 (isolation #175) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:00 pm

This isn't a very strong game you're putting out at all.
UNVOTE:

Ever considered replacing

Saki · Post Post #638 (isolation #176) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:05 pm

In post 636, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 633, Saki wrote:
In post 632, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 630, Saki wrote:
In post 629, NoctanNights wrote:I played extremely badly on this game anyway. Can't recover.
You saw me fight my way back >_>
And you expect me to WANT to fight back? Hellz no. I deserve this.
Yes I expect you to want to fight back.
Why? It's just like Monopoly, if you have park place and whatever the other light blue one is you win. I landed on both of them each having four hotels.

MARQUID YOU VOTE ME RIGHT NAO.

Dark blue.
I believe it's Park Place ($35) and Boardwalk ($50)

max is 5 houses (aka 1 hotel)

on another note you aren't that screwed

Saki · Post Post #639 (isolation #177) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:05 pm

i unvoted so marquis couldn't hammer anyways.

Saki · Post Post #642 (isolation #178) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:09 pm

In post 640, NoctanNights wrote:And nope, I don't want to replace. Just kill me. I'm like that thing you always see in the movies

'killllllllllmeeee........KILLLLLLLL MEHEHEEEEE'
And Saki, not the way we played it. We doubled the money cost for each new hotel. That's how bad that game sucked. My friend had so much money from my bad luck landing on boardwalk and park place like 5 times in a row.

jesus how long did you play?
half a day?

Saki · Post Post #644 (isolation #179) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:12 pm

by the way I was a monopoly maniac at a point in my life

the best monopoly you can have is orange

best corner you can have is white-pink

everything else is really trash until after you've played until someone vomited

P-EDIT
....wat
lacks comprehension of references

Saki · Post Post #651 (isolation #180) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:45 pm

In post 650, NoctanNights wrote:Honestly, I'm just drunk at the moment watching My little Pony on netflix

i honestly advise replacing out

Saki · Post Post #654 (isolation #181) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:54 pm

In post 652, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 651, Saki wrote:
In post 650, NoctanNights wrote:Honestly, I'm just drunk at the moment watching My little Pony on netflix
i honestly advise replacing out
look, im smashed now. Tomorrow I'll likely be fine after the hangover, so calm down before you get your panties in a twist. least i can actually type.

i dont get why you'd be stalling...

Saki · Post Post #661 (isolation #182) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:49 pm

drunk on life

when will you ever not be

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:36 am

hai gm

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:01 pm

In post 707, Saki wrote:hai gm

GM care to elaborate on 351 being a scumslip?

Noctan sorry for what happened yesterday
but you better not get drunk-post again

Sakura yes I'll get you that list
but if you want to know how bad I am at reading people/how bad that list will be
this game was mostly me and you and I have problems reading you

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:15 pm

In post 726, Sakura Hana wrote:Idc, if you're good or bad at making read lists, the more you do it, the better you get at it, and if your list isn't accurate to who the actual scu

depending on gm's response you might (not) be back in the scumslot ._.

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:16 pm

In post 728, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 727, notscience wrote:Coaching.

coaching

and

distancing, mmhmm

but wait that'd make me scum

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:19 pm

In post 731, Sakura Hana wrote:Sounds good to me, but you should learn to form your opinion and not just follow the stronger players.

I didn't see 351 as a scumslip and I'd like to hear her opinion on why.

why would you not advise newbtown to sheep a strong town player
then again I try not to

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:22 pm

In post 733, notscience wrote:
In post 732, Saki wrote:
In post 731, Sakura Hana wrote:Sounds good to me, but you should learn to form your opinion and not just follow the stronger players.
I didn't see 351 as a scumslip and I'd like to hear her opinion on why.

why would you not advise newbtown to sheep a strong town player
then again I try not to
1379

explain

also why are people reading me based off one game
I should play 5 different games with 5 different playstyles so you cant do that

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:23 pm

In post 734, Sakura Hana wrote:because they might not be town.

nice reaction

I expected you to say even though town they might be wrong and link me to BoP or something

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:24 pm

In post 737, Saki wrote:
In post 734, Sakura Hana wrote:because they might not be town.
nice reaction

I expected you to say even though town they might be wrong and link me to BoP or something

never mind 736 tells me why

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:32 pm

In post 739, Sakura Hana wrote:What I do recommend, is making your playstyle the same, regardless of alignment of role, so no one can use meta against you.

so i have to be 1379 VI the rest of my life?

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:37 pm

In post 743, Malakittens wrote:
In post 720, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:
In post 704, Malakittens wrote:
In post 694, notscience wrote:You quoted GM

Mala why is GM scum
Speculation. If Noctan flips scum high chances are GM is a partner. Looks like distancing a lot of distancing.

In post 696, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 693, Malakittens wrote:I think it's Noctan/GM scum team..

Btw Noctan - I was drunk earlier this game and you didn't see me making excuses the morning after. >.>
You didn't post much while drunk then. What am I to do when I made at least 30-40 drunk posts?
You posted 30-40 drunk posts? You mean
maybe
20 posts. Your overreaction is noted.

You see seem to care how you are seen.
This is normally a scum trait
.
why do I get the feeling that you know that there is a good chance that noctan might be town?

also do you have any original scum reads of your own cos right all you are doing is sheeping my reads
I don't know who's actually town. I'm going by judging of posts?

GM made a comment towards Noctan and his responded scream newscum distancing from a possible partner. It looked panicky as hell.

What did it look like to you?

hangover

possibly scum.

Saki · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:38 pm

never mind that one wasn't for me

Saki · Post Post #759 (isolation #194) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:10 pm

In post 750, Malakittens wrote:You know. I love it if people let others answer first before then saying what they wanted to say,

I'm trying to ask Mollie
first
.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry

Saki · Post Post #761 (isolation #195) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:13 pm

In post 760, goodmorning wrote:
In post 708, NoctanNights wrote:One of her posts is trying to get me lynched by saying I'm town and acting scummy while doing it.
brb,
laughing myself to death

Dude, a 1 for 1 on a weak townie is the shittiest tradeoff ever. Now if you were accusing me of doing that to the hydra or Mala, that would almost be a good strategy now that I think about it.

totally not filing that one away for future reference or anything

In post 724, Saki wrote:
In post 707, Saki wrote:hai gm
GM care to elaborate on 351 being a scumslip?
A
Mafia
slip in particular. Her post indicates that she is wolf hunting. The Mafia are tacked on as an afterthought.
I fucking love this setup for precisely these types of things.

@Mala: No, he's Town in my books, one of my strongest reads, and there are many other people I'd rather lynch first. I can see why people are reading him Scum though.

@Noctam: Explain. Saying someone "acted scummy" is not good enough.

Also THREE PAGES WHYYYYYYYYYYYY

thanks

gm you are now officially in a saki thread

Saki · Post Post #764 (isolation #196) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:22 pm

thanks for explanation of 351

as a reply to three pages whyyy

- you are now in a saki thread

clarity op

Saki · Post Post #765 (isolation #197) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:25 pm

In post 763, Sakura Hana wrote:Memo to self: Go to an english institute and learn perfect english before joining more mafia games...

I love how not only on this game, people tackle reasons to lynch me due to how i write stuff.

not so much bad english
more of reflecting your thought process/position

Saki · Post Post #766 (isolation #198) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:25 pm

In post 764, Saki wrote:thanks for explanation of 351

as a reply to three pages whyyy

- you are now in a saki thread

clarity op

sorry I saw noctans post above as gm's for some reason

Saki · Post Post #769 (isolation #199) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:40 pm

In post 767, NoctanNights wrote:Why exactly do you think I'm town in the first place? And no, it isn't a shitty strategy, you could get me lynched, then when they target you you could easily turn it around. Unless I were actually scum.

As for the weak townie remark, how the fuck can you possibly think I'm town? Like seriously, my drunk posts were some of the most fucktarded things in this game. If I were any other person I would have lynched my stupid ass. And yeah, I am noobtown, but how can you think that at all?

you contradicted yourself in the span of a single post

gosh and I was saving my 200th post for a readslist too