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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:04 pm

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Votecount 1.16


[L-4] Saki - Flench, Varsoon, Titus
[L-5] CherryDrPepper - Dyslexicon, oriole
[L-5] jmo16mla - Glass, StubbsKVM
[L-6] Titus - Saki
[L-6] Varsoon - jmo16mla

Not Voting: TunnelVision, Vote Me, CherryDrPepper, Paschendale

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is Friday, August 2nd, 2013 at 7:30 PM CST ((expired on 2013-08-02 19:30:00)).

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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:07 pm

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In post 208, jmo16mla wrote:after reviewign saki's posts, she hasn't been constructive to scum hunting at all.

id like to see what she has to say upon returning to the updated game state before voting her this early in the game.

still not liking glass.

That's your last post of any substance and you're pushing for a Varsoon lynch?
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:10 pm

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I'm willing to think it could go either way, Varsoon is an experienced player, while Saki's probably thinking the same thing i was thinking after getting NK'd N1 on my 1st game when i was Town Doctor because i was "too town", something that a PR doesn't want is getting NK'd N1, so this head, Sakura Hana, thinks that it could still go either way, i'd need to see more from Saki now that his role is out, same from Varsoon, I hope my other head does answer this as well.

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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:11 pm

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Nah, I'm not down for a lynch on myself.

@Cherry: Well, if you need me to answer anything, I'd be glad to.

@JMO: Can you articulate why lynching a claimed Roleblocker is a good idea?
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:16 pm

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Well, chances are, ones lying. Lynch one, flips town, lynch the other.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:18 pm

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So, if we're both town roleblockers, you eliminate a huge part of town's PR's with lynches?
Sounds like a bad plan.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:18 pm

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Well i mostly wanna see your attitude from now on, same with Saki, but answer me this question, How likely do you think is that scum drew 3T as opposed to 5T? take in mind even taking into account that saki fake claimed scum and is a roleblocker scum we would have

BMXTTTT up to BMXXXXX, while there could be a chance of BBBMTTT?... do you think it's compltely null the possibility of you both being town? Unlikely yes, but i've seen stranger things happen.

P-Edit: jmo what would you say to that ^
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:21 pm

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I've seen strange things as well.

I still stand behind my Saki = scum standpoint. Not so much because of my role and likelihood in the setup, but for all the other points that've already been raised.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:21 pm

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In post 429, jmo16mla wrote:Well, chances are, ones lying. Lynch one, flips town, lynch the other.
That's been my plan as well. Yet, you were arguing Saki was scummy but you switch to Varsoon.

There is a theoretical chance of three Bs. The odds of this are remote. I'd find it more likely that there are 0 roleblockers than three.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:25 pm

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Titus, no need to speculate on 0 roleblockers.
I am a roleblocker.
Given how I feel about exclusive information, I don't like the position I'm in, but I wasn't going to let someone else claim my role.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:26 pm

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I believe you are town, but I'm not 100 percent certain. It's rather ingenious if there are no roleblockers. I'll speculate about every plausible possibility until I have eliminated it.

I am off to bed now. Later
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:32 pm

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Okay, so lets not lynch either of them and let scum walk over us. Cool.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:45 pm

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Fair enough.
Although I've already put forth the effort to explain why Saki should be the lynch.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:46 pm

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In post 436, jmo16mla wrote:Okay, so lets not lynch either of them and let scum walk over us. Cool.
This is obviously not a good idea, but you're dismissing the possibility that Saki could have been acting scummy also so scum leave him alive because he could be easy mislynch, which is why i want to see how they act from now that everyone knows their roles, There's also the possibility of both being Town but that's gonna be hard to prove even with NKA.

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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:52 pm

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Which would be why I'm pushing varsoons lynch.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:54 pm

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Still it would be unpolite of me to lay a vote while my other head probably hasn't even read all of this sooooo... not voting until i hear more from him.

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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:00 pm

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I prefer not to speculate on the setup, and I think that these competing claims make Saki look somewhat acceptable. I'm more worried about our lurkers. I'm out for the night.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:29 am

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In post 435, Titus wrote:I believe you are town, but I'm not 100 percent certain. It's rather ingenious if there are no roleblockers. I'll speculate about every plausible possibility until I have eliminated it.
How would this even work?
Oriole and Oreo, they look similar. I'll probably respond to both.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:58 am

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I say lynch Titus.
Titus has been chainsawing/defending Varsoon a lot lately.
Titus has also strengthened his scumread on me.

If we lynch Titus and Titus flips scum it's almost sure that Varsoon is scum.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:00 am

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Everyone else, especially Paschendale and CherryDP seem genuinely confused by the exchange yet Titus shows no sign of confusion as if he knows that there's scum/no scum between Varsoon and me.

I don't like that. At all.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:47 am

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In post 444, Saki wrote:Everyone else, especially Paschendale and CherryDP seem genuinely confused by the exchange yet Titus shows no sign of confusion as if he knows that there's scum/no scum between Varsoon and me.

I don't like that. At all.
That's a pretty big 180. Plus why would I need to be confused regarding a scenario already put forth to me multiple times.

In the rare event Varsoon flips scum, you can add vote me to the scum list. He was vouching for Varsoon even before I figured it out. Yet, Saki ignores this and FoSes me. Saki's FoSes are her attackers.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:02 am

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Sorry I have been missing the last few days, life got suddenly busy. Catching up now.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:02 am

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While your catching up, you should be aware Saki claimed roleblocker and Varsoon cced. Read the catchup with that in mind.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:19 am

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Short posting

ISO'd Titus yet again, don't like how most of his posts are subtly ambiguous, as if he was aware that someone might go through them later and question him about them.
Titus' shaky stance on Varsoon and his reason to believe Varsoon's claim over mine "because Varsoon is town."
Then she contradicts herself by saying "no I never said Varsoon was town, no I never said Varsoon was scum, either"
What.

Varsoon's claim as town RB is bullshit. (Or he might be Scum Roleblocker as Titus kindly pointed out) He's way too zealous in claiming.
Why do you feel the need to mention your role PM several times? afaik nothing would really add validation to your claim except maybe crumbing in a prev post or another PR confirming yours
Why do you feel the need to share with us your nighttarget? Scum might roleblock you. Or just have another member of the scumteam perform the nightkill. In fact your target might even be a town PR who would then have to expose himself/herself in order to direct the roleblock somewhere else.

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Yes I FoS my attackers because I'm a town PR. Anyone that wants to string up a town PR is obviously scum.

What do you mean by 'pretty big 180'?

Also, Vote Me? You have serious reads on people that aren't me, Varsoon, or Cherry? (I don't think your read on Varsoon is serious, anyways. and your Flench case is outdated, I doubt he's even on the site.)

Also, Titus, would you say that you've been buddying Varsoon? In post you say 'proactively defending someone' is buddying, and that's what you've been doing. Are you buddying Varsoon or not? Stop dodging this question.

Following that which is obvious (Titus is buddying Varsoon) then when Varsoon flips scum so are you, Titus.

"I am a conservative voter." You've been pretty floppy with your vote recently.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:20 am

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ignore the 'short posting' the post got longer as I found more stuff that Titus needs to answer
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