Mini 1463 (it has shitty jokes) over

[yessiree]

ew I'd rather die than team up with someone
like this

[Smudger]

anyone else starting to feel omnom and yessiree could be a team?

Nope, not seeing that, seeing Generic buddying up to you though and basically fighting your corner as you don't seem arsed about it.

[Smudger]

and DCL while you are brating Kid up about not answering you could you look at #278 for me?

[Smudger]

and DCL while you are

beating the

Kid up about not answering you could you look at #278 for me?

Fixed

[Generic]

anyone else starting to feel omnom and yessiree could be a team?

Nope, not seeing that, seeing Generic buddying up to you though and basically fighting your corner as you don't seem arsed about it.

So it's buddying to look at the actions of kid myself and then question such a fast wagon on a weaker case than there is for others?

I call that being as objective as possible to avoid mislynching, but ok.

[Smudger]

Generic, did I say I disagree with what you did, no I am merely pointing out to Kid that he can't be arsed why should we be arsed if he remains in the game. Maybe the term buddying was wrong, but you are defending him are you not?

[Generic]

Well I see what you mean. For me when I looked over his posts he has a very strong start, some great logic and good vote choices because of that logic, but recently it feels like he has given up or isn't as good on the defensive as he is the offensive.

So yeah I get your point now. The pressure on him I don't disagree with, he will either show some defensive fight or get found out, but my main concern was a seemingly strong scum hunter was being fast wagoned with votes that don't have the same level of explanation attached to them.

[Generic]

The pressure on him I DO agree with...

Sorry, I mistyped there.

[N]

Alduskkel replaces absta101

Vote Count 1.11

yessiree

( 0 )

Generic

( 2 ) TMTOLBTWNTOF , NotThePope

levio

( 0 )

Kid A

( 3 ) RadiantCowbells , DCLXVI , yessiree

DCLXVI

( 1 ) Alduskkel 

Bub Bidderskins

( 2 ) Alabaska J , Smudger

Alabaska J

( 0 )

NotThePope

( 3 ) Om of the Nom , Generic , Kid A

TMTOLBTWNTOF

( 0 )

Smudger

( 1 ) Bub Bidderskins

RadiantCowbells

( 0 )

Alduskkel

absta101

( 0 )

Om of the Nom

( 0 )

Not voting:

levio

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-07-08 09:36:53)

.

Alabaska J is V/LA until 1st July.

[NotThePope]

So yeah I get your point now. The pressure on him I don't disagree with, he will either show some defensive fight or get found out, but my main concern was a seemingly strong scum hunter was being fast wagoned with votes that don't have the same level of explanation attached to them.

Where has he been scumhunting or voting with reasonings or providing any sort of reasonings based on what he's said?

[Generic]

Posts 66, 106 and 132 all come with reasons for the vote. After that not so much.

[Bub Bidderskins]

just gotta look at how the two heads play and respond to each other and figure out if they have town or mafia motivation

Personally I don't think it made sense for them to vote wrestle when they weren't in danger of lynching someone and I also don't like how one of them keeps townreading everyone who pushes on them

I actually can't say anything negative about this, He points out something that's genuinely scummy on his scumread.

i disagree with the people above me levio just told us they were voting the largest wagon over their scumread because ntp hasnt omgused absta

imo this is an attempt to look town because levio expects ntp to flip town and they dont want to look like they pushed a mislynch

VOTE: levio

This is where things REALLY get interesting.

Kid A's vote is on NTP because he thinks he's scum, right? Now, there's "levio expects ntp to flip town"

This is huge.

Unvote; Vote: Kid A

Smudger is still scummy btw, but that catch by cowbells is massive. Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip, but then he still wants to get onto the hot NTP wagon. That is such a massive scumslip. Cowbells is conf. town. Kid A is conf. scum.

Lynch him now. I will not be happy with any other lynch today.

[Bub Bidderskins]

Trying to figure out this sudden kid A wagon that's formed. So far kid A has opened in RVS with a vote on NTP, then a naked vote to bub, followed by a return to NTP with what looks to be a serious vote based on indecision between the two users making up the hydra. He then criticises NTP for not explaining themselves, explains to me how to read a hydra mindset, then at post 106 changes vote to Levio based on the theory now that NTP will flip town and Levio knows this. Continues the case on Levio with decent logic, then switches to cowbell based on not much input of her own, leans on alabaska for an NTP read, goes back to cowbells to point out their OMGUS and show the difference in how each voted for people (the assumption here is that kid gives an explanation and cowbell doesn't).
From here there is an abusive outburst to alabaska to give his NTP read, moves his vote to NTP before then switching to NTP with the short reason of it giving most information.
He then in single sentence responses pushes NTP, and at one point explains he unvoted alabaska because he went v/la (dies that count as a reason?) before seemingly dodging responses to people who are pushing on him.

Summarised, there are a few concerns about his play, such as the leaving cases he built in favour of an NTP push which has very little case from him or indeed an explanation, and also the leaving of the alabaska vote I don't fully understand the reasoning given.
But beyond that he has been applying pressure and the vote changing up until NTP has always had a strong logic attached to why.

Is the wagon building solely to force him to stop dodging questions or have I missed something more damning on him? Currently im not seeing anything worthy of the speed those votes came in at.

Your defense of Kid A has been noted.

[Alduskkel]

Unvote

. Reading.

[Generic]

Am I missing something here? Kid A is theorising levios mindset, and is speculating what Levio is expecting to happen.

How is that ANY different to you bub declaring so so e town and someone mafia there? You assume a flip, kid a has assumed the actions of someone who might know what someone will flip.

That's so weak and you tried to dress it up as cast iron.

[NotThePope]

I'm sorry NS, but Kid A needs a vote up his butt
VOTE: Kid A

[Kid A]

well with a wagon this quick i _must_ be mafia :/

[Kid A]

Smudger is still scummy btw, but that catch by cowbells is massive. Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip, but then he still wants to get onto the hot NTP wagon. That is such a massive scumslip. Cowbells is conf. town. Kid A is conf. scum.

Lynch him now. I will not be happy with any other lynch today.

this is the misreppiest misrep to ever misrep

a suggestion that levio could be mafia expecting ntp to flip town is miles away from "Kid A reveals that he knows that NTP is town by saying levio expects him to flip"

using words like scumslip and conf inappropriately might make you think your case looks really good but it entirely hinges on something you made up :c

[Kid A]

if ntp flipped mafia i would still be worried about levio voting mafia even though they think absta is the mafia, it would give me the impression that levio has more information than us

further evidence that bub bidderskins is being dense :c

[yessiree]

Kid A, do you know what a "Non-denial denial" is?

It's in your last three posts.

[N]

Prodding levio and TMTOLBTWNTOF

[levio]

im sorry N, i dont think ill be putting much attention in this game im in final's week in college, please sub me

[Alabaska J]

back from v/la, exhausted from flights and laguardia airport in general, will post massive stuff tomorrow if that is cool with everyone

[Smudger]

Smudger is still scummy btw,

pray do tell as this will be interesting?

[Alduskkel]

SMUDGER. Who is scum, and why?