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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:59 pm

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In post 224, NotThePope wrote:Yo I think someone is scum
And I'm so certain that person is scum
But I won't use my vote to try to win the game lulz


^ Generic in his prime
In post 216, Kid A wrote:lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
Alright
I've tried to be calm
Rational
And serene
So answer this right and I won't drop a fucking brick on your balls
What information will you gain?
The one with the lower iq must have the keyboard.
I wasn't going to vote until I had done the review of you. When I did, I voted. I have just responded to being asked why I voted with the case.

Your response is to mock me for not voting... Riiiight.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:42 pm

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In post 123, NotThePope wrote:3 things I want to comment on here

1) Echoing everyone else, DCL with his opportunistic vote is scummy.
Eh, I'm not sure if DCL's vote was opportunistic, levio wasn't getting much heat at the time.
In post 206, DCLXVI wrote:
In post 175, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:You know what bothers me? DCL and Generic are raising the same flags to me, but only DCL is getting hit.
As self-serving as it is to say this I agree. Though I don't necessarily think that means Generic is scum, after all, scum could have just taken the opportunity to run me up over him if he is town.
How does self-serving work in this context?
In post 207, DCLXVI wrote:Also

TMBDFDFDIFOHSDFSF is town as well as Om and Generic.
Generic? You move from "I don't necessarily think that means Generic is scum" to "Generic is town."
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:49 pm

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In post 225, Generic wrote:
In post 224, NotThePope wrote:Yo I think someone is scum
And I'm so certain that person is scum
But I won't use my vote to try to win the game lulz


^ Generic in his prime
In post 216, Kid A wrote:lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
Alright
I've tried to be calm
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And serene
So answer this right and I won't drop a fucking brick on your balls
What information will you gain?
The one with the lower iq must have the keyboard.
I wasn't going to vote until I had done the review of you. When I did, I voted. I have just responded to being asked why I voted with the case.

Your response is to mock me for not voting... Riiiight.
Pathetic, really. You have to sink down to trying to slander my other head rather than come up with any sort of refutation. Scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:37 pm

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Thanks for continuing to justify my vote, you have no defence so you build straw men instead. Keep on digging that hole.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:58 pm

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@NTP if the mod allows it, and if you haven't done so already. You should make a QT where you can discuss stuff between yourselves.

Also, you aren't winning your argument with generic.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:27 pm

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Reminder: attack the play not the player.
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yessiree
( 0 )
Generic
( 2 ) TMTOLBTWNTOF , NotThePope
levio
( 1 ) DCLXVI
Kid A
( 1 ) RadiantCowbells
DCLXVI
( 2 ) absta101 , yessiree
Bub Bidderskins
( 2 ) Alabaska J , Smudger
Alabaska J
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( 3 ) Om of the Nom , Generic , Kid A
TMTOLBTWNTOF
( 0 )
Smudger
( 1 ) Bub Bidderskins
RadiantCowbells
( 1 ) levio
absta101
( 0 )
Om of the Nom
( 0 )

Not voting:


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in
(expired on 2013-07-08 09:36:53)
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Smudger is V/LA until Sunday.
Alabaska J is V/LA until 1st July.
GTKAS

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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:48 pm

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In post 223, Generic wrote:
In post 215, Bub Bidderskins wrote:Generic, why did you feel the need to vote now as opposed to earlier? You just refused to vote, and now, after no posts from your main suspect, you decide to vote. Why?
I never said I wouldn't vote. If you look back over what I have said I was quite up front about being stuck with the phone to play this off. Doesn't help with regards to reading people. But I forced myself and felt NTP hasn't been at all pro town and has never attacked me off his own back, seeking to come in after others have had a dig.
Also things of note:
#22 Defended someone when it wasnt even his arguement (white knighting)
I don't like moronic reasonings for vote, which he later says was not entirely serious, affirming this point.

#24 continues to defend but then pulls out a random vote to start a wagon.
Wagons are good ways to get out of RVS and find information about alignment.

#54 other person in the team chastises the names vote in #24 but then throw down their own naked vote.
Congratz, we don't agree on townreads so we must be scum, good to know.

#61 oh look. The original vote is back. Anyone would think this indecision is filler without anyone being able to push them in why that vote (because even they disagree on the validity of it)
Because RC has done nothing. People who do nothing need pressure to do things.

Then a series of posts very self focused and seemingly lacking in any sort of content or scum hunting. More filler basically. Then laughably tells me I need to get scum hunting.
Because you aren't.

When he finally begins to show signs if scumhunting he identifies DCL as scummy, but the next post they make has yessiree as one who needs pressure. Again it's a naked vote just for pressure, no case attached.
Votes all need cases? How about making sure noone flies too far under the radar?

Then we move to a vote on me. Liking the point about me, but can't remember who said it and never says what that point was, but again hints at the vote being for pressure purposes.
Okay, you remember EVERYTHING that EVERYONE said? If I quoted something without the name, could you tell me who posted it? I have a lot of names to remember, its hard to keep track of everyone else. Why repost what someone already said?

Basically no scum hunting I can identify even though there's two of them, several naked votes to appear active, a vote on me with some vague reasoning attached that someone somewhere said something...
You have done nooooooooo scumhunting and have no means to be talking there, scum.


I refused to vote just because someone had told me I hadn't, and the reason I hadn't was I hadn't been able to do any assessments. It's not worth voting on nothing. I found something worth voting on.
And it's the mislynch you're pushing to live D1.
@DCL, we both just get kinda distracted for using QTs, we usually bounce ideas back and forth on the chat.


Meanwhile, lets take a look at Generic, shall we?

First 5 posts- OMG HYDRAS CHEATING INSTA SCUMREAD OMFG GET THEM OUT

162- Nothing really, townreading people (wait, isn't it easier for scum to townhunt?)
166- Buddying and more townhunting.
The 4 posts from 172-187- Fluff posts, there to make him look like he's doing things but all in all he has done nothing.
188- Trying to force associative tells on the fact there is a wagon on him. Says that "affirms" his previous misgivings about my slot, which until that point had been expressed simply due to the fact we're a hydra.
190- I don't have time to focus on this game, when at the time he seems to have plenty of time for other games.
193- Newbie defense, strange. Doesn't seem to have played that card until he has a decent sized wagon on him.
194- More associative tells without a flip to appear scumhunting
196- Thanks captain obvious, your theory there really makes me think you're town! (Not.)
223- Wall of l0lbadcase
225- Him breaking rules
228- More fluff

Tell me folks, does that man seem town to you?
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:59 pm

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In post 231, NotThePope wrote:Meanwhile, lets take a look at Generic, shall we?

First 5 posts- OMG HYDRAS CHEATING INSTA SCUMREAD OMFG GET THEM OUT

162- Nothing really, townreading people (wait, isn't it easier for scum to townhunt?)
166- Buddying and more townhunting.
The 4 posts from 172-187- Fluff posts, there to make him look like he's doing things but all in all he has done nothing.
188- Trying to force associative tells on the fact there is a wagon on him. Says that "affirms" his previous misgivings about my slot, which until that point had been expressed simply due to the fact we're a hydra.
190- I don't have time to focus on this game, when at the time he seems to have plenty of time for other games.
193- Newbie defense, strange. Doesn't seem to have played that card until he has a decent sized wagon on him.
194- More associative tells without a flip to appear scumhunting
196- Thanks captain obvious, your theory there really makes me think you're town! (Not.)
223- Wall of l0lbadcase
225- Him breaking rules
228- More fluff

Tell me folks, does that man seem town to you?
Do you know what IIoA is?

You're both acting like children, actually.
However, I'm inclined to believe Generic at this point, because when NTP was presented with an argument as to why Generic didn't vote immediately, NTP focused on the insult instead of the explanation, while claiming that his point was never refuted. He's ignoring a lot of information to try and portray Generic in a bad light.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:02 pm

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I'm not discounting the possibility of them both being scum, however. But they're definitely not both town.
“Leftover lady, let alone the strongest to be subdued.
If I only had the magic key that would unlock the realms to the plateau of the highest me.
Even though I’ve been badly bruised, living in a house to become a popular muse.”

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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:03 pm

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@Om, why does one of them have to be scum?
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:12 pm

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In post 234, DCLXVI wrote:@Om, why does one of them have to be scum?
Because NTP is definitely scum.
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If I only had the magic key that would unlock the realms to the plateau of the highest me.
Even though I’ve been badly bruised, living in a house to become a popular muse.”

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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:17 pm

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If NTP is town, then is generic scum?

If so, why?
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:22 pm

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@ntp, I will return to your case against me when it's not 4:20 in the morning...

But your arguement is flawed when you exaggerate the parameters. You don't need to remember anything, but your exact reason for suspecting me was someone who's name you codnt remember made a good point... Then you never specify the point.

It reminds me actually of something someone whos name i cant recall said to me yesterday....

Anyway, goodnight.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:25 pm

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In post 236, DCLXVI wrote:If NTP is town
DOES NOT COMPUTE
“Leftover lady, let alone the strongest to be subdued.
If I only had the magic key that would unlock the realms to the plateau of the highest me.
Even though I’ve been badly bruised, living in a house to become a popular muse.”

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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:27 pm

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Om, I would like a serious answer to post 236.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:31 pm

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I'll be more clear om, still want 236 answered but answer this as well please.
In post 235, Om of the Nom wrote:
In post 234, DCLXVI wrote:@Om, why does one of them have to be scum?
Because NTP is definitely scum.
IF NTP is definitely scum, why included him in a "they can't both be town scenario" why not just say "NTP is definitely scum" and leave it at that?
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:35 pm

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I literally don't see how NTP could be town, that's just how strongly I feel about it. There's no other way to explain it.
Generic might be scum, but he might not be. I'm quite undecided on him now. I had him as slight scum earlier, then I started feeling town, but now I'm kinda uneasy about the argument between them. They're both resorting to scummy tactics in their argument with each other, but Generic seems to be putting more effort into it. I feel like he cares more about convincing everyone that NTP is scum.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:35 pm

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I went and compiled generic's case on NTP. If I missed anything feel free to correct me. I'll do NTP's case on generic after.
In post 40, Generic wrote:I do love how easily RVS turns into the paranoia stage.
What the hell is notthepope all about?

NotThePope (hydra of notscience and TheIrishPope)
In post 94, Generic wrote: And this is fair in mafia how?

How do you read a player displaying two separate metas?
In post 120, Generic wrote:Biggest scum reads so far are for smudger and NTP. I might be being unfair to NTP but I really am hating this idea that two people can play as a single role in mafia. The posts from them so far have been a little too erratic and I have reasons to concern myself early.
In post 188, Generic wrote:
In post 185, NotThePope wrote:Liking whoever brought up that point about generic. Were going to agree there, kinda curious what happens when we....

VOTE: generic

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You noticed your teammate trying to get your attention to back him up did ya?

Convenient that the guy who's name I can't pronounce (lots of letters, will call you TMT for now) gives a shout out for more people to be following his vote on me, and NTP leaps to the call.

Just because people have felt cause to voice early suspicions on me day 1 doesn't make it a must vote option. It's day 1, several people have been under suspicion from a few people without votes needing to be placed down. That's how mislynches get achieved. It's why pressure is applied and questions are asked, like om has done with me as an example.

NTP was already on my radar, looks like there was more to your vote and fishing for more go wagon me than I first thought TMT
In post 194, Generic wrote:
In post 192, NotThePope wrote:Classic overreaction to having 2 votes. TMT was on to something.

Hes stretching for ways to discredit the wagon on him. Interesting.

After this post from generic, TMTOLBTMNTOF's case on generic needs to be looked at.


You jumped in too fast and too loose NTP, you let your teammate down.
In post 211, Generic wrote:Reading back with my small screen, while TMT is trying to build something from nothing on me, NTPs vote was just opportunistic. I can decide whether TMTs post calling for others to vote was a request for support from a scum team or NTP was just seeing an opportunity, but either way it's the d I more of the two votes.

vote: not the pope
In post 225, Generic wrote:
In post 224, NotThePope wrote:Yo I think someone is scum
And I'm so certain that person is scum
But I won't use my vote to try to win the game lulz


^ Generic in his prime
In post 216, Kid A wrote:lynching ntp will give us the most information imo
Alright
I've tried to be calm
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So answer this right and I won't drop a fucking brick on your balls
What information will you gain?
The one with the lower iq must have the keyboard.
I wasn't going to vote until I had done the review of you. When I did, I voted. I have just responded to being asked why I voted with the case.

Your response is to mock me for not voting... Riiiight.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:36 pm

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In post 242, yessiree wrote:I went and compiled generic's case on NTP. If I missed anything feel free to correct me. I'll do NTP's case on generic after.
I'm expecting some followup analysis to this.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:37 pm

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Edit: I messed up the quote in #194, watching LCS :)

After this post from generic, TMTOLBTMNTOF's case on generic needs to be looked at.

^this was from me
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:37 pm

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I'm expecting an answer to my questions, Om.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:39 pm

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Actually, patience is not a virtue I've often been accused of having.

vote:om


towny points to whoever figures out why ommy is being scummy

He could still talk his way to my good side I suppose, but I'm finding it unlikely.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:45 pm

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In post 246, DCLXVI wrote:towny points to whoever figures out why ommy is being scummy
I hope you're joking with this. Townie points for seeing the same thing as someone else is a pretty dumb way to find town :P
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:46 pm

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TMT's case on generic and DCLXVI, I'll do a more in-depth after the game :)

In post 175, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
In post 122, yessiree wrote:townread on Om of the Nom for the efforts put in to scum hunt
I don't like this townread. And I retract my townread on yessir.

In addition, I don't like Generic for the same reason. (bullshit townreads)

...

You know what bothers me? DCL and Generic are raising the same flags to me, but only DCL is getting hit.

VOTE: Generic until DCL posts again, it seems like he's gone into hiding.
In post 180, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
In post 178, Generic wrote: You say that like its a fault of the game. It's subjective interpretation, just because you are seeing issues with me the same as another player, doesn't mean everyone reads the game the same way.
Other people have commented on you, but have steered clear of a vote, or further association for that matter.
It's like scum attempting to distance but not vote.
In post 204, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
In post 188, Generic wrote:
In post 185, NotThePope wrote:Liking whoever brought up that point about generic. Were going to agree there, kinda curious what happens when we....

VOTE: generic

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You noticed your teammate trying to get your attention to back him up did ya?

Convenient that the guy who's name I can't pronounce (lots of letters, will call you TMT for now) gives a shout out for more people to be following his vote on me, and NTP leaps to the call.
Oh, cool, the two people voting you are scum.

...
In post 150, absta101 wrote: Generic's post with his reads gave me a gut scum read on him.
I want to see more of DCL.
^^

abasta's Post 200 points to a strong scumread regarding old points that he has glossed over in previous posts, briefly stating "gut scum reads" and "slight scum reads."
focuses on DCL for a lynch.
Abasta scummy.

Other people also focus on DCL > Generic, which makes me want to think DCL is town.

Om, you also commented on Generic's bullshit townreads, but you also didn't really push DCL either.
You also put potential scum on Generic, but never really said anything else about that matter.
In post 226, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
In post 123, NotThePope wrote:3 things I want to comment on here

1) Echoing everyone else, DCL with his opportunistic vote is scummy.
Eh, I'm not sure if DCL's vote was opportunistic, levio wasn't getting much heat at the time.
In post 206, DCLXVI wrote:
In post 175, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:You know what bothers me? DCL and Generic are raising the same flags to me, but only DCL is getting hit.
As self-serving as it is to say this I agree. Though I don't necessarily think that means Generic is scum, after all, scum could have just taken the opportunity to run me up over him if he is town.
How does self-serving work in this context?
In post 207, DCLXVI wrote:Also

TMBDFDFDIFOHSDFSF is town as well as Om and Generic.
Generic? You move from "I don't necessarily think that means Generic is scum" to "Generic is town."
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:48 pm

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In post 247, Om of the Nom wrote:
In post 246, DCLXVI wrote:towny points to whoever figures out why ommy is being scummy
I hope you're joking with this. Townie points for seeing the same thing as someone else is a pretty dumb way to find town :P
The townie points is pretty clearly a joke.

The vote wasn't though.
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