NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

[Nero Cain]

I'll be back later with a list of reads so you guys know who to kill after mislynching me.

<<< Double-post deleted. >>>

[Nachomamma8]

What the absolute fuck is this scumcho? There was a reason that that scumRyu defended the fuck out of OS before he flipped town. And I'm accusing him of the same thing. You are playing way dense this game.

Yes, because he was white knighting. That doesn't mean everyone who defends someone else is white knighting.

A basic understanding of large game site meta. Stop being dumb.

You could talk about this a little more because we've all played in large normals before and they sure as hell aren't always multiball.

and why do you think that town Angel would care about my fake vig?

I don't know why. But I do think that she wouldn't be bold enough as scum to ask you about your fake vig if she thought you were a power role because she would be afraid you would turn it against her.

context is important here. ⅔ blue scum are dead. This means there’s only one blue scum left. Unless you are claiming to be the last blue scum (and therefore hunting redscum) then he does have a much higher chance of being town.

What makes me redscum?

So? I can have a scum read on more than one person. You are doing it so why are you being a hypocrite. This is also a lie ‘cause I started out both day 2 and 3 voting for Rena.

Then why do you still suspect Bacde? He's town if Haylen is voting him, right?

That’s ‘cause I wasn’t “getting” paranoid about you two.

Then what were you trying to say in that quote?

Yea ‘cause Bacade’s “Nacho is a good scumhunter so Nero has to be scum” made so much sense. I know that I’m town so any lynch/vig shot on me would be a waste. But I guess you’ll be ok with getting lynched/vigged when I flip town right?

Bacde was saying that he could be lynched if I flipped town, but you didn't find issue in that. You only freaked out when he suggested you be shot on my townflip.

That was NOT was was said. I was obviously being sarcastic.

I realize that, yeah.

<<< Fixed a quote tag. >>>

[Bulbazak]

if you really need me to, I can go post by post and pick out what it is exactly what I'm using as a base for my town read on him, but I'd prefer not to >.>

That might help, because I'm really not seeing Nero-town.

hrmmmm...hrmmm...I'm trying to decide if this is scum or "too stupid to be scum"

I like how you try to discredit me before addressing my points.

Lets talk about context here. When AK questioned me as to why I suspect them but not Bacde, his vote wasn't even the fifth vote? Why do you think its townish of her to deflect to a vote that wasn't actually there?

I'm not going to speculate on another player's motivation via vote counts, especially given Bacde's erratic history with his vote on the Nacho wagon.

The fact that AK has a good chance of getting lynched today and you are defending her so so so hard is making alarm bells ring.

You were the one that asked me about AK's post from d1. I didn't find it scummy at the time, and I still don't now. I had actually come around to the opinion that AK was probably scum when you pointed me back to that post, which happened to remind me why I originally townread them in the first place. Ergo, you are responsible for my townread on the slot now.

Bulba is scum yes, he doesn't do anything, he posts a lot but he doesn't achieve anything with them; he posts and posts and what is the best argument he has made? 'You can't think a scumread has confirmation Bias'

Tell me one thing he has done other than that, you can't, hes scum.

This case is weak and is evidence that you are not reading the game.

PEdit: You're not "allowed" to move your vote? Seriously?

Given that I've started playing in a hydra myself recently, I actually believe them.

+ Bulb is lurking pretty hardcore.

This is patently false. Are you sure you're reading the game?

On to page 167.

[Bulbazak]

The fact that AK has a good chance of getting lynched today and you are defending her so so so hard is making alarm bells ring.

what does this even mean

"you think a person who other people find scummy is town? RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE"

What the absolute fuck is this scumcho? There was a reason that that scumRyu defended the fuck out of OS before he flipped town. And I'm accusing him of the same thing. You are playing way dense this game.

So I'm scum if AK flips scum, and I'm scum if AK flips town? Can you make up your mind, so I know exactly why I'm scum?

[mastin2]

Ninety-Eighth Votecount

:

(Thirty-First Votecount of Day Three,

AKA, the "Sometimes, activity is cool. Other times, it's just annoying." votecount.

)

Nero Cain - 6 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie, Desperado, Bacde, ffullisade, Cephrir)

Seanald - 4 (PeregrineV, ArcAngel9, ThAdmiral, penguin_alien)

Amethyst Kitty - 1 (Kublai Khan)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Nero Cain)
ThAdmiral - 1 (Human Destroyer)
Bacde - 1 (Rena)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Rena - 1 (Slandaar)

Not Voting - 2 (Seanald, Bulbazak)

With

18

alive, it's

10

to lynch.

Day Three's deadline is Friday, July 5th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-05 12:30:00).

If deadline were to hit now,

Nero Cain

would be lynched.

Bulbazak is V/LA over weekends indefinitely.
mastin2, the moderator, is V/LA for...a while.

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Nero Cain - 6 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie, Desperado, Bacde, ffullisade, Cephrir)
Seanald - 4 (PeregrineV, ArcAngel9, ThAdmiral, penguin_alien)
Amethyst Kitty - 1 (Kublai Khan)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Nero Cain)
ThAdmiral - 1 (Human Destroyer)
Bacde - 1 (Rena)
Kublai Khan - 1 (Amethyst Kitty)
Rena - 1 (Slandaar)

Not Voting - 2 (Seanald, Bulbazak)

Last votecount was page 169, post 4201.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History D3

CrashTextDummie: ThAdmiral->Nero Cain
Cephrir: Rena->ThAdmiral->penguin_alien->Amethyst Kitty->Seanald->Nero Cain
Nachomamma8: ThAdmiral->Nero Cain->PeregrineV->Slandaar->Amethyst Kitty->ThAdmiral->Nero Cain
PeregrineV: Nachomamma8->Seanald
Nero Cain: Rena->Nachomamma8
Bacde: Nachomamma8->Rena->Nachomamma8->Unvote->ThAdmiral->Seanald->Nachomamma8->Unvote->Nero Cain
Bulbazak: ffullisade->Bacde->Amethyst Kitty->Unvote->Nero Cain->Seanald->Unvote
Desperado: ThAdmiral->Rena->ThAdmiral->Nero Cain->Amethyst Kitty->ThAdmiral->Seanald->Unvote->Amethyst Kitty->Nero Cain
penguin_alien: ThAdmiral->Unvote->ThAdmiral->PeregrineV->Seanald
Slandaar: Amethyst Kitty->Rena->Desperado->ThAdmiral->Amethyst Kitty->PeregrineV->Seanald->Rena
Seanald: Rena->Cephrir->Amethyst Kitty->Unvote
ThAdmiral: Nachomamma8->Seanald
Rena: Bacde
Kublai Khan: Bacde->Amethyst Kitty
Amethyst Kitty: Seanald->Kublai Khan->Desperado->Kublai Khan
ffullisade: Rena->Unvote->Amethyst Kitty->Unvote->Amethyst Kitty->Nero Cain
Human Destroyer: Rena->ThAdmiral
ArcAngel9: Cephrir->Amethyst Kitty->Desperado->Seanald

Spoiler: Votecount History D3

On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:30p,

Bacde

votes

Nachomamma8

in post 3367.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 02:40p,

Nachomamma8

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3375.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 05:23p,

Nero Cain

votes

Rena

in post 3385.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 06:01p,

Nachomamma8

votes

Nero Cain

in post 3388.
On Mon, Jun 6/10/13 @ 11:14p,

Kublai Khan

votes

Bacde

in post 3397.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 04:18a,

Slandaar

votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3406.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 08:55a,

Desperado

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3417.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 12:32p,

Bubazak

votes

ffullisade

in post 3432.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 03:04p,

ArcAngel9

votes

Cephrir

in post 3444.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 06:46p,

ffullisade

votes

Rena

in post 3462.
On Tue, Jun 6/11/13 @ 09:08p,

Seanald

votes

Rena

in post 3467.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 11:07a,

Desperado

votes

Rena

in post 3489.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 12:41p,

Bacde

votes

Rena

in post 3522.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 01:45p,

Slandaar

votes

Rena

in post 3528.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:15p,

Bulbazak

unvotes

ffullisade

and votes

Bacde

in post 3537.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 02:42p,

ffullisade

unvotes

Rena

in post 3543.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:04p,

Bacde

unvotes

Rena

and votes

Nachomamma8

in post 3548.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:48p,

Nachomamma8

votes

PeregrineV

in post 3584.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:49p,

Nachomamma8

votes

Slandaar

in post 3585.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 03:50p,

Nachomamma8

votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3586.
On Wed, Jun 6/12/13 @ 06:07p,

Nero Cain

votes

Nachomamma8

in post 3623.
On Thu, Jun 6/13/13 @ 03:49a,

Slandaar

votes

Desperado

in post 3625.
On Thu, Jun 6/13/13 @ 10:02a,

Human Destroyer

votes

Rena

in post 3633.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 10:06a,

Bacde

unvotes

Nachomamma8

in post 3671.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 11:16a,

Desperado

unvotes

Rena

and votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3672.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 11:30a,

Bacde

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3673.
On Fri, Jun 6/14/13 @ 12:08p,

Slandaar

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3678.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 06:50a,

Cephrir

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3711.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 10:31p,

Seanald

unvotes

Rena

and votes

Cephrir

in post 3730.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 11:17p,

Bacde

votes

Seanald

in post 3731.
On Sat, Jun 6/15/13 @ 11:59p,

Amethyst Kitty

votes

Seanald

in post 3732.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 00:18a,

Amethyst Kitty

votes

Kublai Khan

in post 3733.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 01:07p,

penguin_alien

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3740.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 03:07p,

Human Destroyer

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3745.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 03:18p,

Nachomamma8

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3746.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 05:10p,

CrashTextDummie

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3752.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 11:05p,

Nachomamma8

unvotes

ThAdmiral

and votes

Nero Cain

in post 3759.
On Sun, Jun 6/16/13 @ 11:28p,

Desperado

unvotes

ThAdmiral

and votes

Nero Cain

in post 3760.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 06:02a,

Kublai Khan

votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3769.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 06:50a,

Slandaar

votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3771.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 07:28a,

Cephrir

unvotes

ThAdmiral

and votes

penguin_alien

in post 3772.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 09:29a,

Bacde

votes

Nachomamma8

in post 3774.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 09:53a,

Desperado

unvotes

Nero Cain

and votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3777.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 11:03a,

Amethyst Kitty

votes

Desperado

in post 3792.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 01:54p,

Amethyst Kitty

votes

Kublai Khan

in post 3821.
On Mon, Jun 6/17/13 @ 01:59p,

Bulbazak

unvotes

Bacde

and votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3822.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 08:37a,

penguin_alien

unvotes

ThAdmiral

in post 3857.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 11:53a,

PeregrineV

votes

Nachomamma8

in post 3869.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 02:24p,

Cephrir

votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3885.
On Tue, Jun 6/18/13 @ 06:39p,

ThAdmiral

votes

Nachomamma8

in post 3900.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 11:04a,

ArcAngel9

votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3921.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:05p,

Seanald

unvotes

Cephrir

and votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3950.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:28p,

penguin_alien

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3962.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:42p,

ffullisade

unvotes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3966.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 12:50p,

Bulbazak

unvotes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3967.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 02:52p,

Bulbazak

votes

Nero Cain

in post 3977.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 04:04p,

ffullisade

votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 3979.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 05:24p,

CrashTextDummie

unvotes

ThAdmiral

and votes

Nero Cain

in post 3989.
On Wed, Jun 6/19/13 @ 07:29p,

Desperado

unvotes

Amethyst Kitty

and votes

ThAdmiral

in post 3991.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 03:29a,

ArcAngel9

unvotes

Amethyst Kitty

and votes

Desperado

in post 4015.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 04:56a,

Slandaar

votes

PeregrineV

in post 4016.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 10:05a,

penguin_alien

unvotes

ThAdmiral

and votes

PeregrineV

in post 4017.
On Thu, Jun 6/20/13 @ 11:22p,

Desperado

unvotes

ThAdmiral

and votes

Seanald

in post 4038.
On Fri, Jun 6/21/13 @ 01:23p,

PeregrineV

votes

Seanald

in post 4056.
On Fri, Jun 6/21/13 @ 02:14p,

Seanald

unvotes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 4059.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 03:45a,

Slandaar

votes

ThAdmiral

in post 4066.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 08:24a,

ArcAngel9

votes

Seanald

in post 4070.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 01:41p,

Bulbazak

unvotes

Nero Cain

and votes

Seanald

in post 4081.
On Mon, Jun 6/24/13 @ 02:02p,

Cephrir

unvotes

Amethyst Kitty

and votes

Seanald

in post 4083.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 02:38a,

ThAdmiral

votes

Seanald

in post 4087.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 07:02a,

Slandaar

votes

Seanald

in post 4088.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 11:52a,

penguin_alien

unvotes

PeregrineV

and votes

Seanald

in post 4091.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 04:08p,

Bulbazak

unvotes

Seanald

in post 4104.
On Tue, Jun 6/25/13 @ 04:20p,

Desperado

unvotes

Seanald

in post 4106.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:17a,

Slandaar

votes

Rena

in post 4126.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 10:33a,

Desperado

votes

Amethyst Kitty

in post 4133.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 02:41p,

Bade

unvotes

Nachomamma8

in post 4153.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:19p,

Desperado

unvotes

Amethyst Kitty

and votes

Nero Cain

in post 4170.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:27p,

Bacde

votes

Nero Cain

in post 4171.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 04:28p,

ffullisade

votes

Nero Cain

in post 4172.
On Wed, Jun 6/26/13 @ 06:01p,

Cephrir

votes

Nero Cain

in post 4198.

[penguin_alien]

ArcAngel9, what's your reason for having Seanald as your top scum read?

Desperado, given that Seanald hasn't responded to any of the people who think he's scum since he appealed to you, what's your take on him independent of his wagon composition?

[Desperado]

Looks to me like caught scum who doesn't know what to say

[mastin2]

The important links post now features links to the votecounts throughout the game.
Pokes are being sent to those who have not contributed recently.

[ThAdmiral]

Nacho's Nero case is awesome. Nice catch on the D1 multiball comment in particular. Sheep him.

I'm not convinced. I think in large games it is not unusual to assert it might be multi-ball.

That being said I don't see why nero is being so defensive, and am looking forward to his response to nacho's case.

[Amethyst Kitty]

But considering the strength of Nero's scumread against me, I find it strange as fuck that he keeps on jumping on people who were unlikely buddies with me. I also have no idea where the multiball assertion came from (completely out of nowhere), but his endorsement of an OS wagon while voting me and while people are saying there are likely scum in the OS jump was scummy as fuck.

I had similar reasoning for Khanscum

Why is Nero scum for attacking people who aren't likely your buddy when you're his top scum read, but Khan isn't for doing something similar to me?

Nero at least initiated some kind of attack against you, Khan didn't even make a case against me until I attacked him. Yeah, he stated he had a scum read on me and that he had it for a while, but I don't remember him doing anything with it until I confronted him about it.

Vote: Amethyst Kitty

AK is not dying today.. Seanald is today's lynch!!!
Stop pushing counter wagons!!!!!!!!

???

Sup with this angel? you were supporting our wagon not that long ago

I really don't like this Cain wagon in the slightest

Khan, you were setting up mislynches. I was attacking one of the biggest pushers of the OS wagon at that time, and I voiced my opinions on the OS lynch. Saying I was doing absolutely nothing to prevent him from being lynched is still a mis-rep.

Desp. Slandaaar had given several scum-reads for no reason, so has Nero, and Thad has some really strange scum reads and last I recall, Thad hasn't even voted for a single scum read

and yes, she isn't allowed to take our vote off Khan. I'm not fond of any of the leading wagons so far, and the other wagons that I might consider joining aren't yet formed so our vote there wouldn't mean shit.

as for the policy lynching Seanald for Info, I don't agree with her on that respect. I don't want to push a wagon on the sole purpose of policy when I have something much better right here in front of me regardless of the information that we may or may not gain from it.

~Mara

[Amethyst Kitty]

I'll get to the Nero case tomorrow, but I don't like it

[CrashTextDummie]

Nacho's Nero case is awesome. Nice catch on the D1 multiball comment in particular. Sheep him.

I'm not convinced. I think in large games it is not unusual to assert it might be multi-ball.

I did a bit of digging in Nero's completed New York games and you have to go back more than a year to find a proper multiball game with two mafia factions.

NY 163: open set-up, one scum faction
NY 161: single scum team
NY 160: scum team + SK
NY 151: scum team + SK
NY 150: single scum team
NY 143: two scum teams

So I don't see why Nero would just randomly assume that this game has more than one scum faction. Quick ISO-skim of his posts in those games reveals that he considers mafia + SK multiball. But I don't think the possibility of an SK would influence his scumhunting the way the multiball assertion did in this game.

It also turns out that his multiball thoughts in this game are inconsistent:

As for my read on you. I think your play has been pretty scummy. I don't think that everyone has a town read at you and those that do have it 'cause of meta. I have never played with Mala and my experience with Mara is limited so I'm willing to listen to other players that have more experience with ya'll and besides you are helping me kill Nachoscum so you get to ride in my null pile until I find out that this is multiball.

This, but its also likely multiball so OS could still be scum.

He's giving Mala a pass until he finds out it's multiball. He doesn't give OS a pass because it's likely multiball.

Either Nero is town who arbitrarily decided this was multiball somewhere between these two posts, or he's scum who knew this was multiball from the beginning, scumhunted the opposite faction in terms of this knowledge and let it color his play.

[Nero Cain]

Why are you looking only at New York games?

You know what those games with one killing faction have in common? A larger playerbase.

[Nero Cain]

erm....that should be smaller playerbase.

<<< Double-post deleted. >>>

[Nero Cain]

Ima let Mastin fix my tags 'cause I'm lazy right now.

<<< You know, that's a VERY bad habit to have, 'cause it assumes I actually know how to fix your post. I'll do my best. >>>

What the absolute fuck is this scumcho? There was a reason that that scumRyu defended the fuck out of OS before he flipped town. And I'm accusing him of the same thing. You are playing way dense this game.

Yes, because he was white knighting. That doesn't mean everyone who defends someone else is white knighting.

Its still a good possibility and its still selective scumhunting and Bulb is still probs scum.

A basic understanding of large game site meta. Stop being dumb.

You could talk about this a little more because we've all played in large normals before and they sure as hell aren't always multiball.

No one ever said anything about large normal and no one said anything about them being always multiball.

WWE-21 players/2 mafia factions
Gears of War-21 players/2 mafia factions
How 2 and a half friends-21 players 1 mafia faction and an sk "team"
Mainstream Mafia-30 players 1 mafia faction, a cult and a serial killer
meta playstyle mafia-20 players/1 mafia faction, 1 serial killer
Harry Potter-21 players 1 mafia faction/1 serial killer

BUT THOSE ARE THEME GAMES!!!

NY 161: single scum team
NY 160: scum team + SK
NY 151: scum team + SK
NY 143: two scum teams

So one game out of ten has more than one killing faction. So yeah, I think its always a pretty good bet that a 20+ player game will have more than one killing faction. Mind blowing, I know.

and why do you think that town Angel would care about my fake vig?

I don't know why. But I do think that she wouldn't be bold enough as scum to ask you about your fake vig if she thought you were a power role because she would be afraid you would turn it against her.

I could

maybe

see that.

context is important here. ⅔ blue scum are dead. This means there’s only one blue scum left. Unless you are claiming to be the last blue scum (and therefore hunting redscum) then he does have a much higher chance of being town.

What makes me redscum?

What does that have to do with Thad?

So? I can have a scum read on more than one person. You are doing it so why are you being a hypocrite. This is also a lie ‘cause I started out both day 2 and 3 voting for Rena.

Then why do you still suspect Bacde? He's town if Haylen is voting him, right?

And what does that have to do with you lying that I never voted for Hayrena? Bacde is more a vibe then anything but I could sit down and point out some posts that have bothered me if you really care that much.

That’s ‘cause I wasn’t “getting” paranoid about you two.

Then what were you trying to say in that quote?

Nothing really just that I still suspect you two and this "oh yay, we suspect you 'cause you suspect us" isn't making me fee any better about you two.

Yea ‘cause Bacade’s “Nacho is a good scumhunter so Nero has to be scum” made so much sense. I know that I’m town so any lynch/vig shot on me would be a waste. But I guess you’ll be ok with getting lynched/vigged when I flip town right?

Bacde was saying that he could be lynched if I flipped town, but you didn't find issue in that. You only freaked out when he suggested you be shot on my townflip.

*shrugz* I can't stop a kill but idk, he's just coming from left field. In his own words he only suspects me 'cause I suspect him. I think it was strange as fuck for Bcade to all the sudden blurt out "if Nacho flips town lets kill Nero."

<<< Oh, and the double-post was deleted. >>>

[Nero Cain]

Looks to me like caught scum who doesn't know what to say

So you think Sean is scum but you join his counterwagon? Gotta love that chain lynching.

[Nero Cain]

I like how you try to discredit me before addressing my points.

You have no points.

Lets talk about context here. When AK questioned me as to why I suspect them but not Bacde, his vote wasn't even the fifth vote? Why do you think its townish of her to deflect to a vote that wasn't actually there?

I'm not going to speculate on another player's motivation via vote counts, especially given Bacde's erratic history with his vote on the Nacho wagon.

*raises eyeybrow*

That's like half the point of this game; to speculate on players motives. But the question has NOTHING to do with Bcade and everything to do with AK using a "hey look over there defense".

The fact that AK has a good chance of getting lynched today and you are defending her so so so hard is making alarm bells ring.

You were the one that asked me about AK's post from d1. I didn't find it scummy at the time, and I still don't now. I had actually come around to the opinion that AK was probably scum when you pointed me back to that post, which happened to remind me why I originally townread them in the first place. Ergo, you are responsible for my townread on the slot now.

Let me get this straight....You were town reading her and then when I pointed out her deflect you started scum reading them....which reminded you why you were town reading them. And I did something to make you town read them?

The fact that AK has a good chance of getting lynched today and you are defending her so so so hard is making alarm bells ring.

what does this even mean

"you think a person who other people find scummy is town? RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE"

What the absolute fuck is this scumcho? There was a reason that that scumRyu defended the fuck out of OS before he flipped town. And I'm accusing him of the same thing. You are playing way dense this game.

So I'm scum if AK flips scum, and I'm scum if AK flips town? Can you make up your mind, so I know exactly why I'm scum?

Well I have no clue what you are doing. Lets say for instance, if Ryu had flipped before OS. I'm pretty sure we'd have a group of players that would have thought that Ryu might have been defending a buddy and some that might think that Ryu was defending town for town cred. Town really has no way of knowing what scum are doing.

But we can kill it.

vote:Bulb

[Desperado]

Looks to me like caught scum who doesn't know what to say

So you think Sean is scum but you join his counterwagon? Gotta love that chain lynching.

Did you even read the question that penguin asked me?

[Desperado]

Desp. Slandaaar had given several scum-reads for no reason, so has Nero, and Thad has some really strange scum reads and last I recall, Thad hasn't even voted for a single scum read

I don't understand why this is addressed to me. Can you fill me in?

and yes, she isn't allowed to take our vote off Khan. I'm not fond of any of the leading wagons so far, and the other wagons that I might consider joining aren't yet formed so our vote there wouldn't mean shit.

Yeah your vote is just

full of meaning

all by itself on Khan.

as for the policy lynching Seanald for Info, I don't agree with her on that respect. I don't want to push a wagon on the sole purpose of policy when I have something much better right here in front of me regardless of the information that we may or may not gain from it.

This is a complete misread of the situation. So not only is Mala misunderstanding my point, but you're now misunderstanding Mala's misunderstanding.

Hydras fucking suck.

[ArcAngel9]

I am not liking the way Nero wagon going.... its a counter wagon.
nacho, stop lynching Nero please...

[Nero Cain]

Looks to me like caught scum who doesn't know what to say

So you think Sean is scum but you join his counterwagon? Gotta love that chain lynching.

Did you even read the question that penguin asked me?

I did, which has shit all to do with voting a counter wagon.

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[Nero Cain]

Angel, what is your Bulb read?

[ArcAngel9]

Mixed thoughts...
He was bullying Fuzzy
Give free pass to Cepheir and puts him null
Calls Nacho is Nacho
Says...
Thor is town
OM is scum
Seanald is scum but unvoted him
At somepoint jumped into AK wagon
Already kept his options open to jump into your wagon at anytime...
also thinks i am scum.. His scum list is way to large than his town list....

may not be town but not todays lynch candidate.

[Nero Cain]

of course he's not town. That's why you should be helping me lynch it.

[mastin2]

General note: Just because I

will

fix something doesn't mean you should

rely

on my fixing something. That applies for pretty much everything, too. Including activity. Just because I'll give you warnings and be lenient with posting times, doesn't mean you should rely on my warnings and leniency. Self-regulation is far more effective, and it reduces my workload quite significantly.