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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:18 am

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I got fourth. I KNEW I was getting around fourth. You think I'm not serious?

Ask the 12 people who didn't take 1. It's super risky. Scum have a lot smaller a risk in doing it.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:21 am

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Basically, now that I think more (I should really do my thinking before the first post dangit), I'm not saying town don't do it I'm saying scum do it.

There's 2 people who took 1. One of them is probably town.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:22 am

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Vote Count 1.1
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: Smudger, Sakura Hana (L-6)

Not Voting (7): Stryker, Cade, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Mutleyddmc, Xdaamno, Crimml, Alabaska J

With 14 alive, it's 8 to lynch.


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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:23 am

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Because scum buddies wouldn't pick the same numbers? wifom much?
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:36 am

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Am I allowed to quote what I sent to the moderator here?
Because I picked 1 to deny any scum who thought they were being clever. I figured the risk of scum getting first pick is too great.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:39 am

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In post 17, Deckard wrote:
In post 15, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:Policy lynch.
Serious vote then? If so, what are the reasons you want Belisarius lynched?
Facetious vote. Also I wanted to see if anyone would react to a second vote on someone.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:41 am

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Wouldn't that be against the spirit of the game, quoting private pm's? There is not much point discussing why someone chose 1 over another numbers imo
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:47 am

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In post 30, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:
In post 17, Deckard wrote:
In post 15, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:Policy lynch.
Serious vote then? If so, what are the reasons you want Belisarius lynched?
And what would you have concluded from more extra votes in the RVS?

Facetious vote. Also I wanted to see if anyone would react to a second vote on someone.
In post 31, Stryker wrote:Wouldn't that be against the spirit of the game, quoting private pm's? There is not much point discussing why someone chose 1 over another numbers imo
Excuse me? Discussing the game mechanics = content. What else could we discuss at this stage? You clearly have an opinion on it. Why do you want to change subjects?
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:48 am

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EBWOP: (Something went wrong in the quote)

YTWC: "And what would you have concluded from more extra votes in the RVS?"?
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:55 am

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In post 25, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:It's super risky
Elaborate. Risky for scum, or risky for everyone? Because I frankly don't see any risk there for town. It is guaranteed that there will be VTs in this game, what's wrong with being one?
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:57 am

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Siveure's reasoning is irrelevant to me, but for reason it's perhaps reading as a town tell on him.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:35 am

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In post 29, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:Am I allowed to quote what I sent to the moderator here?
Because I picked 1 to deny any scum who thought they were being clever. I figured the risk of scum getting first pick is too great.
Everyone knows which number everyone picked so your PM to the mod is irrelevant and unncessary, if you want to justify your number pick you can do so here. I'm digging up this "at least 1 scum picked 1" theory, but what makes you think scum didn't start out with 2 instead of 1?, 1 is a pretty risky pick for them.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:54 am

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In post 35, Xdaamno wrote:Siveure's reasoning is irrelevant to me, but for
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reason it's perhaps reading as a town tell on him.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:05 am

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In post 36, Sakura Hana wrote: 1 is a pretty risky pick for them.
It's a big payoff though, which I wanted to prevent.

I'd argue that it's riskier for scum to pick #1. It draws attention to them, and if they get a double then that's more of a loss because of the smaller team size.
In post 33, Deckard wrote: YTWC: "And what would you have concluded from more extra votes in the RVS?"?
Mind rephrasing that?
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:10 am

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In post 34, Belisarius wrote:It is guaranteed that there will be VTs in this game, what's wrong with being one?
The obvious argument being "more power roles for Town is better for Town".
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:18 am

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Hey, belisarius has a point. I think town are likely to act in their own interests in the draft, without regard for the overall shape of the draft, (Ik I did). If you look at things from the perspective of being good for ALL the town then it's way less risky for town to go for 1.

And nobody has ever gone after the people who picked 1 in previous pyp games for picking 1 and it's WIFOM. Drawing attention isn't a good reason.

Anyway, i like ytwc's response, and not stryker's so
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:31 am

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Random other trends I noticed in PyP games.

The highest number ends up as the 4th number (although this one was sheer luck in one case as it only 2 unique and only 2 pairs lol)
The number 4 is always doubled up, and often last. (You guys suck.)
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:39 am

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[quote="In post 38

Mind rephrasing that?[/quote]

Since it was obviously a test fishing for reactions, what would you have concluded from anyone agreeing with you and voting Bel? Would you have a better picture of that person's alignment?
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:40 am

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I seriously have to preview my posts before posting.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:56 am

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If someone had questioned me with regards to a second vote on someone, I would have called them out for stalling the game at RVS. If someone had joined the wagon, I would have asked them why, though I would have thought it a town move if their motive wasn't stinky stinky scumbutt. But now that opportunity has gone, so... hmm.

Is your vote on me still RVS or do you have a reason? It seems real votes have begun to come into play - thankfully, quickly.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:26 am

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My vote on you is RVS. But the content that followed is indeed interesting which gives me a slight town read on Siveure for initiating it and a slight scum read on Stryker because he somewhat didn't want to continue the discussion and didn't want (and still doesn't?) be involved in the RVS with putting down a vote.

I don't really have an opinion about picking certain numbers. Siveure reviewed older games and gathered some interestings statistics but I don't see 1 as a scummy choice by itself.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:34 am

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Welp I'm a bit late to the party. Since when has the site been back up again? *goes to catch up*
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:31 am

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Vote Count 1.2
Belisarius
: pieceofpecanpie, Your Troubles Will Cease (L-6)
pieceofpecanpie
: Belisarius (L-7)
Stryker
:Siveure DtTrikyp (L-7)
TMTOLBTWNTOF
: Smudger, Sakura Hana (L-6)
Your Troubles Will Cease
: Deckard, (L-7)


Not Voting (7): Stryker, Cade, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Mutleyddmc, Xdaamno, Crimml, Alabaska J
With 14 alive, it's 8 to lynch.


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In post 29, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:Am I allowed to quote what I sent to the moderator here?
You can't directly quote any private communications.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:08 pm

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VOTE: TMTOLBTWNTOF too many caps man

i told you bout them caps bro
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:28 pm

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Alabaska why random vote instead of comment on stuff that's happened?

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