Mafia 60: Face-to-Face - Game over!

Glork · Post Post #125 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:41 am

It gives us information from night actions!!

Patrick · Post Post #126 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:45 am

As would lynching someone and going to night.

Glork · Post Post #127 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:45 am

But we're more likely to kill a townie that way! It's only Day One, and we have nothing to go on!!

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #128 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:57 am

I'm trying to think who Glork reminds me of in this game (I don't think it's Glork). Whoever he's behaving like I don't think he's being particularly helpful.

I see the WIFOM in AndrewS's posts and I don't like it.

unvote, vote: AndrewS

. I don't care who the other players are, you shouldn't think you can get away with just saying "If I was scum, I wouldn't do that".

AndrewS · Post Post #129 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:02 am

Think what you will....It's your decision. As for Thesp's question, no, I couldn't tell as easily who was willing to jump quickly. Random voting patterns are impossible to discern information from. This was simply my attempt to bring out information on day 1 rather than lynching randomly. If I'm lynched for it, then so be it.

Glork · Post Post #130 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:06 am

ChannelDelibird wrote:I'm trying to think who Glork reminds me of in this game (I don't think it's Glork). Whoever he's behaving like I don't think he's being particularly helpful.

FoS

Glork is Glork and nothing more.

Mr Stoofer · Post Post #131 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:22 am

Vote Count

AndrewS: 5 (Thesp, Adele, IH, CES, ChannelDelibird)
Thesp: 2 (Patrick, Zindaras)
Cogito Ergo Sum: 2 (AndrewS, spectrumvoid)
Glork: 1 (MrBuddyLee)
spectrumvoid: 1 (Fritzler)
IH: 1 (Ether)
No Lynch: 1 (Glork)

Not voting: Nightfall, Mgm

8 to lynch!

I'm going to be away until Tuesday, but I'm sure you guys are big enough and ugly enough to look after yourselves until then.

IH · Post Post #132 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:29 am

So I'm being vote for from Ether because I pointed out a logical fallacy, Andrew is being unvoted because the wagon on him built up to fast for it to be a town based wagon. Not only that, suggesting a bad play no lynch on day 1 is now a "null tell".

What the eff? Has this town become insane?

Adele wrote:The wifom argument is fallacious, but I don't think use of it is necessarily scummy; I think that it's a fallacy that a lot pf players are easily prone to, and not indicative of scummyness. All it does is invalidate the argument. So, I don't think AndrewS is scum because he used it, but I do distrust him quite a lot (enough for a vote) for what he did do and I don't consider his defence good enough to merit an unvote.

I don't like this either. It looks like a scumbuddy trying to defend kind of noncomittaly.

Why did that wagon dissolve again?

Patrick wrote:The way the wagon built up, I'd be more inclined towards thinking Andrew is town. I'm still unsure as to what sort of benefit Andrew would be gaining by suggesting no lynch if he were scum. Can one of his attackers explain this to me please.

You don't think that this town would be good enough to see some crap logic and jump on it?
Even though we're unsure of the setup, scum do get a free kill with next to no discussion if we just... no lynch.

Ether's post 102 sets my nerves off.

Why is there a sudden wagon on CES?

I demand more nightfall posts.

I feel Glork is just making a point with his nolynch thing.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #133 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:33 am

Stoof - only 5 people are voting for AndrewS. kthx.

- now corrected - Stoofer

Mgm · Post Post #134 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:45 am

Hmm, I could've sworn I unvoted you. I think I'm messing up my games.

Unvote: CES

Vote: Glork

There's only one situation in which no lynch on day 1 is a viable choice. Now isn't one of them and Glork is experienced enough to know it.

Mgm · Post Post #135 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:47 am

Mgm wrote:I don't get you, Zindaras.
You agree it's WIFOM, yet you don't think it's lynch-worthy.
I've seen a lot of scum, who attempted something just because scum wouldn't do that so they could use that argument. (I even did it myself over in DragonPhoenix Mafia on the GL)

If you're not going to vote someone for WIFOM, then do you have a better idea? The only reason I'm not voting yet is because I don't like fast lynches. But I'm all ready to pile up.

Unvote:Cogito Ergo Sum

See, I knew I was right. I did unvote CES. Why didn't you notice, CES?

AndrewS · Post Post #136 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:54 am

MGM, read the game - he was parodying me....

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #137 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:54 am

Mgm wrote:See, I knew I was right. I did unvote CES. Why didn't you notice, CES?

Um, I did notice? I don't see where I suggested otherwise.

Glork · Post Post #138 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:04 am

IH wrote:I feel Glork is just making a point with his nolynch thing.

O RLY?

Glork · Post Post #139 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:05 am

Unvote, Vote: MGM

for not paying attention.

Patrick · Post Post #140 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:43 am

IH wrote:
Patrick wrote:The way the wagon built up, I'd be more inclined towards thinking Andrew is town. I'm still unsure as to what sort of benefit Andrew would be gaining by suggesting no lynch if he were scum. Can one of his attackers explain this to me please.
You don't think that this town would be good enough to see some crap logic and jump on it?
Even though we're unsure of the setup, scum do get a free kill with next to no discussion if we just... no lynch.

I don't really understand what you're saying here. I said that obviously Andrew wouldn't be able to persuade the town to no lynch because it's a bad idea.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #141 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:44 am

Glrok wrote:O RLY?

YARR RLY!

IH · Post Post #142 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:41 am

Patrick wrote:I don't really understand what you're saying here. I said that obviously Andrew wouldn't be able to persuade the town to no lynch because it's a bad idea.

He knows that now. He didn't know that when he proposed it. How does this make him more town? Same with the speed of the wagon. How does that make him more town?

Zindaras · Post Post #143 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:44 am

The fact that Glork used exclamation points should've been enough to tip everyone off that he was joking.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #144 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:57 am

Yes, see my signature.

AndrewS · Post Post #145 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:01 am

IH wrote:
Patrick wrote:I don't really understand what you're saying here. I said that obviously Andrew wouldn't be able to persuade the town to no lynch because it's a bad idea.
He knows that now. He didn't know that when he proposed it. How does this make him more town? Same with the speed of the wagon. How does that make him more town?

Oh, come now. Just because I've only played a few games on here recently doesn't mean that I'm inexperienced. I knew when posting that nobody would take me up on it. I started playing here back in 2004, but took a bit of a hiatus during 2006. I know how the game's played.

IH · Post Post #146 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:04 am

No, I know that Andrew. I wasn't saying you were inexperienced, but you still didn't know how that would be taken among these players, who are all relatively experienced. I know that you've been playing, not only from your 'Mafia Scum' title, but also from your join date. The first of July 2004.

My questions still stand.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #147 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:05 am

He only has 463 posts though. That's, like, not a lot.

Mgm · Post Post #148 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:11 am

AndrewS wrote:MGM, read the game - he was parodying me....

Oops, I guess I was the one not paying attention. I thought his post 117 was in response to my post 116. I didn't notice he responded to an SV quote.

AndrewS · Post Post #149 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:28 am

I'm just saying that if I WAS mafia, I would know that a no-lynch would be a useless ploy, and therefore would not use it. I've played with most people here and know that they rarely go no-lynch. It doesn't make me more town - but it doesn't make me scum either. As for the speed of the bandwagon, those were the reactions that I was looking to get. I wanted to see who was going to try to inconspicuously hop on, or push for an early "sure lynch".