Well I guess here's my discussion on Mert/RafK and by proxy it happens to be LuckayLuck's as well (which I do begrudgingly):
I'm going to use a lot of my old posts, because they describe my suspicions on Mert/RafK well. Also, the crux of my argument on Mert relies on what I posted in my six-player post in
post 649.
pablito wrote:vote: Mert
Mert is trying to look like he's some defender of justified voting styles or something when in reality he's just pushing around the stupid wagons that have nothing to do with actual scumminess. He's just pushing suspicion on people who have decided to abandon "traditional voting". Voting by gut, not voting at all and making joke votes aren't inherently scummy (frustrating, though, yes), and they're some wagons that can pick up speed very very fast. The whole argument is about trying to "hide their true intentions" because we have no paper trail. But Mert is also trying to hide his true suspicions by voting cbox - who is way too easy of a vote to show his true suspicions and voting based on a set rule (those who refuse to vote how he votes). I think it's scummy to vote based upon a "rule". And then he tries to pair up MoS and Phoebus which I really don't understand.
Mert talked a lot about every single odd voting style except for MoS' non-voting. But then Mert finally bothered to talk about it later, but did so while pairing MoS with Phoebus. Since Mert liked to talk a lot about random voting and other crap, I find it hard to believe that Mert would have not chosen to talk about non-voting as well. It's not the content of the discussion that's scummy at all, it's the chronology. Mert's posts in context of the discussion that was occuring did NOT follow a logical progression in my opinion. Mert was pushing specific arguments that looked tailored to his own desires, not discussions that were exclusively beneficial to the town at that point in time. It just seemed that Mert's contribution to the discussions was not what I would've expected.
pabs in D2 wrote:
Mert to me appeared to be distant and cold in his unspoken thought process. It just felt too mechanistic and too rigid. Even though he never explicitly stated it, he had a system for voting people which I pointed out earlier when I first voted him. I feel that true town players will evaluate case by case and not rely on certain criteria to become alarmed. Mert's thought process (as I interpreted it) did not feel pro-town at all. The way he approached the town had a town feel to it, but it smelled scummy to me. Again, it's not necessarily the content of his posts, but the information that he chose to glean from town discussion. In day two, his posts (I think most were lost) feel more genuine and that's why I haven't really pursued continuing with him. He's still in the back of my mind though. I think either Mert has more information to go on and is thus presenting himself better, or that he knows he's at stake and has to wisen up. Also he's becoming more visible, and it seems that once that happens, I ease up on them and let others decide how to gauge him.
Mert tried to talk a lot about every single odd voting pattern but never explicitly said that's what he's focusing on. I felt that at that time in D1, he could have bothered to look at people on a case-by-case basis instead of fad-voting for Phoebus and cardboardbox and all those whoever he voted. I feel that externalizing his locus of voting is a good scum tell. Mert tried to vote anyone who did some awkward voting. He made a criterion that he mentally kept up with and didn't really stray from.
In my 6-player post, I point out that Mert baited a discussion about the LoE very very early. I felt that the chronology of it might have been to distract people away from MoS, of whom Mert didn't really address until late and also tried to hide his mention of MoS. On retrospect, there's a lot of Mert protecting MoS. I'm going to throw them out as possible scum partners.
Therefore, I'd like to know what RafK thinks about MoS and Phoebus currently.
But if RafK could give anything about why Mert was more interested in talking about LoE processes than MoS, then that'd be awesome. That's in posts 42/44->104->155 (but not exclusive to these posts)
Then, as well, what does RafK think about odd voting processes, like voting by gut, never voting, joke-voting, the "unvote all; vote: X" manuever, or only voting people that are on the LoE.
Sup, later.
