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Post Post #2675 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 2:01 pm

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In post 2674, TheButtonmen wrote:Congrats Fate!
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Post Post #2676 (ISO) » Sat May 18, 2013 8:24 pm

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In post 2672, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 2667, chamber wrote:well done. Shame that he drew his 5th land the turn her did game 3.
If Fate had drawn any non land card in his deck those three turns he drew lands, it would've been game.
It was hard to see his hand for the majority of it, so I'm not sure which 3 turns you mean, but by the time his opponent drew his 5th land to play the tusks, fate was pretty dead, certainly not live to the point of any spells being enough.
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Post Post #2677 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 7:27 am

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my hand was four lands. the fifth one I played was my 9th land that game. I could've won the turn the tusk came down if 2/4 the land I drew had been literally anything else in my deck except cacklers. after the second tusk and black mana it was over

happens. should've had him g1 but couldn't get a 3rd land for lethal. also didnt win a single die roll all day (which just shows aggro really isn't just a coinflip deck for all you twofaced haters that are congratulating me now) gonna practice shuffling more heh
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Post Post #2678 (ISO) » Sun May 19, 2013 7:33 am

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playe bant pant twice, then jund, esper control, rb zombies, jund. ID for last cause didbt want to play jnk lifegain before finals (was 6-0-1) if anyone cared
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Post Post #2679 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 7:26 am

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"I need to shuffle better"/"I'm going to practice shuffling" are two of the most misguided statements, probability wise, in the entire world of magic. If you shuffle correctly you SHOULD get mana screwed a significant amount of the time. That's what it means to have a sufficiently randomized deck.
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Post Post #2680 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 8:24 am

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Usually, when I hear somebody say "I need to practice shuffling," I assume they mean either "I don't know how probability works," or "I'm trying to figure out how to stack my deck without getting caught."
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Post Post #2682 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:22 am

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In post 2657, Hyperion wrote:I feel like I should probably get back into Magic, since I haven't played since the original Ravnica. Any suggestions on a red-white deck?
If your going standard R/W, you can start here:
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Post Post #2683 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:32 am

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In post 2677, Fate wrote:my hand was four lands. the fifth one I played was my 9th land that game. I could've won the turn the tusk came down if 2/4 the land I drew had been literally anything else in my deck except cacklers. after the second tusk and black mana it was over

happens. should've had him g1 but couldn't get a 3rd land for lethal. also didnt win a single die roll all day (
which just shows aggro really isn't just a coinflip deck for all you twofaced haters that are congratulating me now
) gonna practice shuffling more heh
No one hates you, that's never been the point of the arguments in here. We like you, we just think your deck choice was a questionable archetype choice given the current meta. Clearly you did well with it, and you deserve the congratulations you're getting, you putz.
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Post Post #2684 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:47 am

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EDH Help needed

found a casual group at work, and we played EDH recently (been playing 2-headed giant).

Spoiler: Political Puppets
I played the Policial Puppets pre-made deck straight from the box (switched out Switcheroo for some blue card draw) and played against

Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts
Isperia, Supreme Judge

and

Gisela, Blade of Goldnight .

Goat guy came out early, Gisela not until about turn 9. Teysa played artifact lockdown, and was bounced off the field.
Gisela came out, was exiled.

Gave away 2-3 cards, so was drawing 3-4 a turn.

Creature armies where big, until Insurrection came out. Used it to kill off tow players entirely.

Leaving me with Isperia. Who had flyers who couldn't attack me, and I had defenders.

He got ahold of some milling and was dragging me down 4 cards a turn (goat gone by now).

then Nin, the Pain Artist came out and I was able to mill him 19, 22, 18, 24 cards and barely pull out the win with 12 cards left myself.

Fun game. But still want to make Animar deck.


So would like help making Animar Deck.

What EDH staples do I need?

Cards I want to play for sure (unless there is a reason not too?)

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Post Post #2685 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 10:04 am

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If in one game I got mana screwed and in the other I saw entirely different cards and got flooded (aka saw 2 reckoners g1, 0 g3, firefist striker g1, 0 g3, etc.) I clearly was seeing different "sides" of my deck rather than having a new randomized game.

But hey I'm just retarded /misguided/ don't know how probability/ works lets start another fucking argument again, etc.

No thanks
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Post Post #2686 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 10:17 am

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In post 2684, PeregrineV wrote:EDH Help needed

found a casual group at work, and we played EDH recently (been playing 2-headed giant).

Spoiler: Political Puppets
I played the Policial Puppets pre-made deck straight from the box (switched out Switcheroo for some blue card draw) and played against

Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts
Isperia, Supreme Judge

and

Gisela, Blade of Goldnight .

Goat guy came out early, Gisela not until about turn 9. Teysa played artifact lockdown, and was bounced off the field.
Gisela came out, was exiled.

Gave away 2-3 cards, so was drawing 3-4 a turn.

Creature armies where big, until Insurrection came out. Used it to kill off tow players entirely.

Leaving me with Isperia. Who had flyers who couldn't attack me, and I had defenders.

He got ahold of some milling and was dragging me down 4 cards a turn (goat gone by now).

then Nin, the Pain Artist came out and I was able to mill him 19, 22, 18, 24 cards and barely pull out the win with 12 cards left myself.

Fun game. But still want to make Animar deck.


So would like help making Animar Deck.

What EDH staples do I need?

Cards I want to play for sure (unless there is a reason not too?)

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Dude, don't ditch Zedruu yet. Just pick up cards like: Words of War, Illusions of Grandeur, Deliusions of Grandeur, Thought Lash, Opalescence, Pyromancer's Swath, Steel Golem, Transcendence (my favourite), or even a Sunforger package.
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Post Post #2687 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:04 am

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I see how some of them can be used. Not sure on the others.
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Post Post #2688 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 12:50 pm

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Each of them is a card that you can donate to your opponent.

Words of War: When you're on your upkeep and have donated 4-5 permanents elsewhere, you convert the draws into shocks. 5 triggers on upkeep = 10 damage to someone's face or 5 Shocks to point at creatures, and you don't miss your own land drops.

Illusions/Delusions - Donate to your opponent, laugh while they try to pay the cumulative upkeep costs or take 10/20 damage to the face

Thought Lash - same deal. They either exile cards slowly, or they instantly deck themselves and die on that upkeep. Extra points are awarded if you can hit them with a Mindslaver to force them not to pay the Upkeep trigger

Pyromancer's Swath - Unless they're playing heavy burn or have a bunch of card draw, you've stripped their hand, and left them with a shitty effect to try and get value from

Steel Golem - Now they can't cast creature spells until they find either a sac outlet or a kill spell

Transcendence - In EDH, where you start at 40, this is usually a one-shot kill. Land the Transcendence, donate it to them, they lose unless they find a "destroy target enchantment" spell.

Celestial Dawn (one i forgot) - Due to the rules of EDH, if they don't have a White commander, they can't produce white mana. This locks every non-white player out of casting anything other than pure colourless spells.
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Post Post #2689 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 1:02 pm

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I've found the best way to play Zedruu is to use a combination of enchantments that don't care who own them, and then just good cards. Zedruu's a very political general- Illusions of Grandeur is cute, but it only works once before people figure it out. Playing out creatures and mana rocks and then donating them to people in need gets people to overlook you as their buddy- and then you kill them with CA because you're drawing 4 a turn.

Sunforger is another strategy I like, since being able to tutor stuff up is great.
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Post Post #2690 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 1:16 pm

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Post Post #2691 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 3:36 pm

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Just learned about quite a few PTQ's in my Area coming up... Time to go on the Grind Mode.
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Post Post #2692 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:40 am

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aaaaaaugh why ratchet bomb why

being able to kill all flipped cards+tokens as soon as it enters is so dumbbbb
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Post Post #2693 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:50 am

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So you play around it. No one is maindecking Ratchet Bombs, and post-board you have Pithing Needle if you're that worried.
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Post Post #2694 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:38 am

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Ratchet bomb isn't even that good?
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Post Post #2695 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:42 am

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Yeah I'm not really worried. It's a two mana removal spell and if they board it against you then you play around it or just sideboard Pithing Needle.
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Post Post #2696 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:00 am

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I don't think you even need to sb around it. If you just get blown out by ratchet bomb in a way that you can't play around then you already get blown out by a large number of things (supreme verdict for one) and probably need to rethink your deck construction.

Went 4-0 with merfolk in modern last night. I don't understand why the deck doesn't get more play. It's sweet against so much of the format.
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Post Post #2697 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:17 am

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I wish there were Modern tourneys near me (or were you playing on MODO?)
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Post Post #2698 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 9:50 am

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What's the Merfolk deck list? I've been considering getting into modern
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Post Post #2699 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2013 10:01 am

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his decklist's good.

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