Mini 374 - Numbers Mafia, Game Over!

[Nightfall]

So your claim is vanilla townie?

[Nightfall]

Bump...

[Maz Medias]

Vote's not moving.

[Nightfall]

Maz, who do you think I should target tonight?

Primate, what/who were you before you became a cult member?

[Maz Medias]

Neongrey.

[Primate]

I was an Irish tracker. I targetted Brizzy, got nothing. That's leading, but it doesn't really tell us anything. Boo could have easily committed the kill, and considering Brizz had more attention, probly would have.

Taking out the ones that are obviously role-related.

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I can honestly say I have no idea what this means or what possible conclusions we can get from it. whoo.

FWIW, I think the optimal play atm is for you to lynch Brizzi and vig neon, seeing how it's practically gauranteed that one of the two is scum, and assuming Brizzi is telling the truth (obviously, yay if he isn't), that should give us a an endgame with me and two of Nightfall/Maz/Confirmed Brizzi, with a dead scum.

That said, I'm not exactly gunning for the town. I kind of hoped that finding the scum in this would be fun, letting me get a last bit of enjoyment out of this, but turns out its just a simple 'confirm everyone and kill the rest'.

Go nuts.

[BrizzyBoi]

For what it's worth I'm more than willing to prove my claim by being lynched (attemptedly).

[Maz Medias]

For what it's worth I'm more than willing to prove my claim by being lynched (attemptedly).

Sadly this doesn't confirm you at all.

Now that I think...

We had several kills related to mathematical operations, didn't we? A moment, if you would...

[Maz Medias]

Two of our kills have featured "smote in two"; the other features variables, which are presumably nightfall's action. Now, who do we see that would use a mathematical operation to manipulate numbers?

A math professor.

[Primate]

Yes, but we know that Brizzi didn't target Adele. So unless there is a second member of the mafia still around with a similar flavour, that doesn't pan out.

[Maz Medias]

We do? Refresh my memory, I don't remember how.

[Primate]

I was a tracker. Brizzy targetted no-one n1.

[Maz Medias]

Oh, it's information from an admitted cultist. I see.

Mod:

Can we get any call, one way or another, as to whether the Cult Leader's cult dissolved upon his death?

[TheEyeOfMordor]

@Maz
No comment

[Maz Medias]

Great, now we have to decide is TEoM is a normal mod or a sadistic one that enjoys potentially bastard modding us to death.

[Primate]

Oh, it's information from an admitted cultist. I see.

Mod:

Can we get any call, one way or another, as to whether the Cult Leader's cult dissolved upon his death?

Asking the mod for details about dead roles is really, really stupid. It's like asking the sanity of a dead cop. I don't see how you could even remotely expect him to answer. I actually sent him a PM earlier when he revealed my win condition, saying how pissed off I was that he had screwed me by revealing one of the last little bits of info I had that the town didn't. I would have been very angry if he'd revealed this question. Not cause it'd screw me, more out of he principle of mods revealing info to towns that the towns have no right to have.

And you can disbelive me if you want, more fool you. I'm not mafia, and it's in my interests to try and live as long as possible and hope that something goes wrong. The easiest way for me to live as long as possible is to help you find the scum, considering that's the person you actually want to lynch.

[Maz Medias]

Obviously, the fact that he was unlikely to answer makes it pointless to try.

Right, whatever you say...


That said, I'm not sure if Primate is mafia running a clever gambit to cover for Brizzy.

[Nightfall]

Okay, Im just going to think out loud here....

What if we all try and lynch brizzy.

Situation 1 > he is who he says he is and lives.
We go into night with
Maz (town?) Night (town) Briz (town) Primate (cult/scum?) Neon (town/scum?)
I would then target Primate.
Whoever the scum is would believably target me.
If my power does kill again,
We would then go to day with 3 players (Maz town?, Briz town, Neon ?)
If that were to happen, and we were still left with scum, neon would be lynched.

Situation 2 > Briz is lynched and he dies. We go into night with
Maz (town?) Night (town) Primate (cult/scum?) Neon (town/scum?)
I target Primate, Scum targets me.
Maz and Neon go to day.
We most likely win with 2 town.... downside being that we could have started with 3 scum... and neon would then be scum....

That being said though, with a cult also in this game, I dont know how likely it would be for us to also have 3 mafia members...

[Maz Medias]

Again, Brizzy being immune to lynching does not confirm him as town. It makes it more likely, yes, but I can see a GF having lynch rather than night-kill immunity.

Alternatively, he did seem rather insistant that he'd be killed tonight. Perhaps he IS a traditional godfather trying to eat up the town's last chance?

[Nightfall]

grrrrrr.......
I still think a lynch of briz, and night power targeting of primate is our best option.

[Primate]

I very much doubt 3 mafia. We have 2 mafia and a cult that stays alive after the death of the leader. If zindy had made anoher night, it would have been very hard to root us out, moreso than you think, and if we'd converted the vig, you'd be royally fucked.

I also think Neon is the scum, but that's neither here nor there, considering the way to play this is to lynch Brizzi to test him, regardless.

[Maz Medias]

and if we'd converted the vig, you'd be royally fucked.

How so? Didn't you lose your abilities when you were converted?

[Primate]

and if we'd converted the vig, you'd be royally fucked.

How so? Didn't you lose your abilities when you were converted?

That's my point. The vig would have lost his abilty, and you'd be forced to lynch away what was effectively a mafia group that recruited instead of kills. I don't think you could have pulled that off on lynches alone.

[Maz Medias]

and if we'd converted the vig, you'd be royally fucked.

How so? Didn't you lose your abilities when you were converted?

That's my point. The vig would have lost his abilty, and you'd be forced to lynch away what was effectively a mafia group that recruited instead of kills. I don't think you could have pulled that off on lynches alone.

Hmm, alright.

Well, I see no other plan than lynching Brizzy and letting Nightfall choose at his discretion, preferably Neon.

[Nightfall]

Neon, Do you have any input?