The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

[Maruchan]

Maruchan> http://puu.sh/2Kiig.png
<Maruchan> daz corin admitting i was right about a computery thing
<Maruchan> and he waz wrong
<Maruchan> when he izz compooter god and i am jsut a lowly slave
<Maruchan> i feel so smarticles

Ya here that.............................................................yup, that's my brain cells dying one by one

ya hear that? yup thats me acting deliberately stupid for irony. Go fuck yourself and quit fighting your brothers fights for him.

[Maestro]

[Maruchan]

http://imageshack.us/user/mrcheesete0


ohh ze memoriez

[Maestro]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/purdy.png/

^ what's that?

[Maruchan]

the old Hogwartia town with plots from when i was trying to make a server that i almost took public to try to make a money-making server like the big ones out there.

then it never took off.

That was the third attempt at my first server, and where i learned most of my skills for any adminy type shit i know now.


I think i still have the files from it

[Maruchan]

ignore the shit about a girl named bri i was a spiteful ex for awhile.

[Maestro]

gj, bro

[Pizzadudes7]

Maruchan> http://puu.sh/2Kiig.png
<Maruchan> daz corin admitting i was right about a computery thing
<Maruchan> and he waz wrong
<Maruchan> when he izz compooter god and i am jsut a lowly slave
<Maruchan> i feel so smarticles

Ya here that.............................................................yup, that's my brain cells dying one by one

ya hear that? yup thats me acting deliberately stupid for irony. Go fuck yourself and quit fighting your brothers fights for him.

[Maestro]

you guys

[izakthegoomba]

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[fuzzybutternut]

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[Pizzadudes7]

So what's the big deal with FTB? Never tried it.

[Klazam]

More stuff to do, more blocks too, basically.

Endgame isnt when you have diamond. Diamonds become as valuable as gold is in vanilla in FTB.

[Klazam]

More stuff to do, more blocks too, basically.

Endgame isnt when you have diamond. Diamonds become as valuable as gold is in vanilla in FTB.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

So what's the big deal with FTB? Never tried it.

FAIRY LIGHTS!

[fuzzybutternut]

More stuff to do, more blocks too, basically.

Endgame isnt when you have diamond. Diamonds become as valuable as gold is in vanilla in FTB.

I have more diamonds than I have cobblestone.................

Pizza, it's 10X better than Vanilla Minecraft. It's all about discovery.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

More stuff to do, more blocks too, basically.

Endgame isnt when you have diamond. Diamonds become as valuable as gold is in vanilla in FTB.

I have more diamonds than I have cobblestone.................

Pizza, it's 10X better than Vanilla Minecraft. It's all about discovery.

This cuz dav ia a cheeser.

[Rhinox]

So what's the big deal with FTB? Never tried it.

It just adds a lot of popular mods, which gives you the more stuff to do and more blocks that klaz mentioned. I think saying its better than vanilla minecraft is a matter of taste.

If you wanna try it, just download the FTB launcher, and the modpack our server uses is the DW20 pack.

[Maruchan]

POLL IN ZE OP GO VOTE!!!!

On Modded Minecraft:

As most of you may have gathered from OPs talking to each other, chat around the subject in IRC, or from following recent FTB news, mods for minecraft often break with big version changes to Minecraft (I'm talking like X.____ or __.X.__ changes not things like 1.4.3-->1.4.5 etc). Or mod authors like to re-write their mods to make the code less clunky and less intensive on machines (YAY!), or to better add new features (I'm looking at things Like Buildcraft1-->Buildcraft2-->Buildcraft3, IndustrialCraft1-->IndustrialCraft2, ExtraBiomesXL1-->ExtraBiomesXL2-->ExtraBiomesXL3-->EBXL4, EE1-->EE2-->EE3, Thaum1-->Thaum2-->Thaum3 etc) that make the new version incompatible with the old version, and usually come with warnings like "Start a NEW WORLD to play this NEW VERSION". Or big-name mods that are THE cornerstone of a server get abandoned (Aether1, etc.).

What does this mean? It means lots of freaking restarting! (right rob13? ) And NOBODY likes to restart every other week because mojang released their new version of their game (to please those trigger-happy "I WANT NEW CONTENT" 12yr olds), causing half the issues. Before Minecraft 1.3/1.4 this wasn't a problem. Making modded SERVERS was too hard, as the server software was a COMPLETELY different engine than the client. Meaning to make mods server-compatible they had to make both a multiplayer and a single player version. Forge/ModLoaderMP we not widely used, so each mod bad Base Class Edits, making mods incompatible with each other, and you'd be lucky to find 4 inter-compatible mods. It was hard to install mods, make all configs and versions match, and successfully connect to servers (FTB and TechnicLauncher and MultiCraft and MagicLauncher weren't yet made, or weren't yet widely used). So nobody cared that mods almost always borked multiplayer worlds, because when you played mods, you played in single player.

With the invent of things like MASSIVE Mod-Author-Approved (I'm looking at you TEKKIT and your large amount of community-hate) modpacks like Feed The Beast, that made Server-Instances of the modpacks widely available instead of for single private server use only; the introduction of Minecraft 1.4 which turned single player unto a multiplayer server with a single player wrapper, making for universal mods; and the exponential boom in the use of a collaborative mod project like Forge that seamlessly integrates mods together, modpacks have become the next big thing in minecraft. And this poses an issue, because now when a modpack breaks with every monthly, big-change, world-eating update Minecraft produces, MASSIVE numbers of servers are thrown into the abyss or having to chose between keeping up-2-sdate with the new mods and features, or keeping their worlds.

ell, with 1.5/1.6 updates just around the corner its time for us to decide our fates too. Do we want to keep up-to-date with new features of minecraft, and lose our world every month or two? Or do we want to build a persistent, stable world, and stick to a single version of minecraft for 6-9 months at a time, and not worry about mod updates? We have to decide how to continue with how popular the modded server has become.

So I want you all to go vote in the poll, which is NOT INDICATIVE OF ANYTHING, i just want your general opinions, would you prefer updates or map stability, if you had to pick?
Don't try to offer me solutions to the issue, I just want a vote in the poll. Past that, feel free to discuss, but don't try to circumvent the problem or find ways around it. The problem exists, and will continue to exist until well after minecraft introduces a Mod API (Bukkit still breaks a lot of plugins every few updates and that essentially what the Mod API will become).


inb4 someone suggest we make 2 servers and do one of each: A: even IF I could afford to make a second income-less modded server with the same ram this one eats up, or B: could acquire the donations equal to the cost of the FTB server if I were to not own the hosting company behind it; I would NOT splinter the community like that. so don't suggest it. I can't afford the $75 a month worth of RAM, and even if I could, it would kill us.


TLDR:
If you had to pick, would you prefer stable world and not updating minecraft with every update, or updating every time, and have to restart the world every month or two?

[fuzzybutternut]

Not seeing the survey.

I wouldn't mind resetting every month or two, as it only takes a month or two's worth of work to get where most of us are now. I think it would add a bit of challenge to the game.
"Can you get end game items before the next map reset? Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand go!"

[Maruchan]

m was supposed to put it on ze op

dork

[blake5135]

I would rather stay up-to-date.
Exactly what Dav said.

[fuzzybutternut]

Quite frankly, thre are three mods that I really want. I think the newest update to DW20 has them.

[izakthegoomba]

Ok, posting this here instead of the PMs because I think the answer may affect other's decisions:

If a consensus is reached that we would prefer to restart the world as necessary in order to keep up to date, is that with the understanding that we just start with basic starter kits, or that we get to bring over an inventory-load?

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm fine with starting with kits, honestly.