NY 162: A Week at the Theatres (Game Over)

[JacobSavage]

I'm happy with a peta-lynch

If peta is scum. We go into D6 with 3 clears and 4 uncleared.

If he's town. We lynch ZONE tomorrow and we are

Also in regards to set up spec, their are two roles that bascially act as millers to the gunsmith, bodyguard and the vig. That coupled with the Role Cop i think balances it.

[JacobSavage]

VOTE: Peta

Opps...

[JacobSavage]

Carrying on.

If ZONE is scum then we go into D7 with 1 mislynch in head (assuming 4 scum)

I see no issue.

[PeregrineV]

KingdomAces - Day Mason
Smashbard - Day Mason

JacobSavage -Vanilla Townie

roflcopter - Vanilla Townie

petapan - Mafia

Oversoul - Vanilla Townie

ZONEACE - Gunsmith

PeregrineV - Vanilla Townie

Bacde - Unclaimed

Updated claims

since I might die tonight
these are my townreads from a quick reread of the beginning of the game

So, even though you are the last to claim, you don't claim?

And you somehow think you will be killed tonight over the Mason, the other Mason, and the Gunsmith?

I really need all these questions answered, as this entire post makes no sense from a town PoV.

[PeregrineV]

hi okay this is a complete bullshit fakeclaim and a simple look at the setup should be enough to tell you that he's making it out of desperation because he knows his time is up otherwise and wants to get one more mislynch off

gunsmith is effectively a cop in this setup, we've already had 3 PRs flip + masons in an 18 player setup. that's slightly above a mini, but essentially masons are so powerful in most small setups they get used as a replacement for an investigative role, having them side by side is essentially gamebreaking given the possibility of producing a ludicrous amount of clear town

we've already had jailkeeper flip which is a pseudo-investigative role as well as bodyguard plus a dayvig, even if you discount the protective roles it would be possible to have 6/7 players cleared as town by day 4 of the game with 12 alive and a vig shot, which is literal autowin - that's worst case scenario for scum but yeah a gunsmith would be ludicrously overpowered do i need to build a case here as to why he's scum or are we just going to sheep the claim without a regard for setup balance

So, you are contending that Zoneace is fakeclaiming scum? If so, why you, a claimed VT? Why not a Mason, effectively eliminating a Confirmed Town if he's really going for the final mislynch before he's caught?

Also, if he's faking scum, aside from mislynching you, he's cleared Bcade. Is he clearing his scumbuddy or trying to gain credit from Bcade?

[Bacde]

KingdomAces - Day Mason
Smashbard - Day Mason

JacobSavage -Vanilla Townie

roflcopter - Vanilla Townie

petapan - Mafia

Oversoul - Vanilla Townie

ZONEACE - Gunsmith

PeregrineV - Vanilla Townie

Bacde - Unclaimed

Updated claims

since I might die tonight
these are my townreads from a quick reread of the beginning of the game

So, even though you are the last to claim, you don't claim?

And you somehow think you will be killed tonight over the Mason, the other Mason, and the Gunsmith?

I really need all these questions answered, as this entire post makes no sense from a town PoV.

If I think ZONEACE is telling the truth (and I do)

and I believe that I am confirmed town (which I do)

What motivation do I have to claim? You guys will figure out everything you need to know about what I know after you see my flip and read my ISO

trust me, it wont be hard

[roflcopter]

see peregrine flail

flail peregrine flail!

(in the style of dick and jane)

[Smashbard]

In case he's not hammered yet.

Vote: Peta

Our itinerary is clear. If Peta flips scum, then either Peregrine or Rofl are his partners. Especially after Peregrines flailing.

If Peta flips town, then Zoneace & Bacde are the last two scum. Since Zoneace would be confirmed scum and by trying to clear Bacde and Bacde not claiming, things would look really bad for Bacde as Zoneaces potential partner.

[PeregrineV]

Thank you for answering the least important part of the post.

You should claim because it's a massclaim, and if you have info that can help, give it. If your a VT but ashamed of it, then say so. If your [super-mega-townie] and think claiming it will make town lose, then claim VT.

Dodging the issue at this point just looks bad for you.

This part is the more important question.

And you somehow think you will be killed tonight over the Mason, the other Mason, and the Gunsmith?

[PeregrineV]

see peregrine flail

flail peregrine flail!

(in the style of dick and jane)

I don't think flailing means what you think it means.

[PeregrineV]

Our itinerary is clear. If Peta flips scum, then either Peregrine or Rofl are his partners. Especially after Peregrines flailing.

Since I'm actually crediting you with being town,

1. Why is JacobSavage town?
2. What have I posted in this game that even remotely resembles flailing?
3. All of this is kind of obvious and has been stated by every player alive. Let's assume a Peta scumflip, who is the best choice for lynch tomorrow?

[Smashbard]

You've been continually posting vote count analysis without directly pointing the finger at anybody until just recently when you FINALLY said that the results of your constant vote count spamming is that you think Oversoul is the final scum, which I don't see the correlation to at all.

You've been more active in the past two days than you have been all game, desperately trying to get Bacde to claim so that scum can have as much information as possible before the end of day phase.

If we're assuming that Peta is scum, then your last minute chastising of his opposing Zoneace is not looking genuine either. As where were you at the very beginning when Rofl & Peta were double teaming Zoneace if you believed Zoneaces side of the story from the start?

Only now trying to get some last minute town cred when Peta dies definitely pegs you at the top of my suspect list with Rofl.

[Smashbard]

EBWOP:

I DO expect Bacde to claim eventually, preferably tomorrow. But right now it puts us in a great position because if Bacde really is a power role (He obviously is, otherwise he wouldn't be adverse to claiming) then it puts the scum on their toes not knowing what Bacde can do. Is he a protector role? If he is, they can't afford to keep him alive because he'll just protect Zoneace and allow any attacks against Zoneace to bounce off, further crippling the scum team. Is he an investigative role? If he is it doesn't matter who the scum kill between him and Zoneace, they will collaboratively clear one more townie, narrow our suspect pool to 3 instead of 4, with 3 lynches to go, it would GUARANTEE a town win.

So for now, Bacde remaining silent on his role is the best thing for us going into night phase.

[petapan]

[Oversoul]

EBWOP:

I DO expect Bacde to claim eventually, preferably tomorrow. But right now it puts us in a great position because if Bacde really is a power role (He obviously is, otherwise he wouldn't be adverse to claiming) then it puts the scum on their toes not knowing what Bacde can do. Is he a protector role? If he is, they can't afford to keep him alive because he'll just protect Zoneace and allow any attacks against Zoneace to bounce off, further crippling the scum team. Is he an investigative role? If he is it doesn't matter who the scum kill between him and Zoneace, they will collaboratively clear one more townie, narrow our suspect pool to 3 instead of 4, with 3 lynches to go, it would GUARANTEE a town win.

So for now, Bacde remaining silent on his role is the best thing for us going into night phase.

Umm... I disagree with this post very much just looking at the game, but I'll shutup until after night.

[Oversoul]

peta's last post is basically a confession now. Doesn't even try to refute anything or give town last minute direction.

[Dr Producer]

Votecount

petapan -

5

[L-0]

ZONEACE, PeregrineV, roflcopter, Oversoul, JacobSavage <<<LYNCH
ZONEACE-

2

[L-3]

petapan, Smashbard

NOT VOTING: KingdomAces, Bacde

PRODS:

WITH [9] ALIVE IT TAKES [5] TO LYNCH

Petapan has been lynched Day 5. He was a

Mafia Goon

.

It is now Night 5. You have 48 hours to submit night actions.

[Dr Producer]

FLAVOR HERE

ZONEACE has been shot N5. He is the

Town Gunsmith

.

It is now Day 6. With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in 2 weeks on May 4th at 11PM EST

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Peregrine

I think Pere realized yesterday was his last chance at survival if he saw PETA scumbuddy get guilted.

[Smashbard]

With Bacde being confirmed town due to Zoneaces death, I see no need to have him claim anymore until Lylo unless he has information that outs the last scum. Let the last scum sweat out the fact that they just let Zoneace confirm Bacde by killing Zoneace and never knowing what Bacdes role really was.

I'd like to lynch Rofl, because my gut is telling me he's scum who's just successfully bussed his partners except for Peta, who was very chummy with Rofl. But I think we can go with Peregrine today.

I don't like Oversoul either. But Peta was actively pushing hard against Oversoul as one of his last scum suspects. Whether or not it was bussing we can figure out later.

[JacobSavage]

What with KA and Smash being confirmed by the same lets see.

PeregrineV, Oversoul, roflcopter, JacobSavage (Ordered from Scum to town)

vs.

Bacde, Smash and KA

We can do this.

[KingdomAces]

I don't have the same reaction to Rofl as Smash does, and right now I think that PV is the best choice for a lynch. For me, after that would be Jacob, rofl, then Oversoul.

I just don't see Destroyer vs. Go being scum vs. scum, and while I can't say that I am good at this kind of thing, I have read some of Rofl's games in the past and this seems like town him. On the other hand, Disney Villains was the only scum game of his I've read, and that game is memorable for completely different reasons, so I'd probably have to read more in order to get a real read there. I'm lazy though, so I'll wait until it is necessary before doing that.

VOTE: PeregrineV

[Oversoul]

Looking back at Rofl's play, I really thought he was potentially scum with wind-up for that fakeclaim business of PGO given that he won Disney Villians because of a fakeclaim the team agreed upon if I remember correctly...

When wind-up killed Dram and then flipped that kinda put roflscum out of my mind. Plus, does he like to bus as scum?

Pere is L-2 by the way

[Bacde]

PeregrineV, who do you think is the last mafia and why?

[Bacde]

cmon dude, we need your last input to help us right before we lunch youu