Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[absta101]

We should kill Bacde.

Brb.

[kashoodles]

I feel that could go either way but I see your point.

Kasshoodles is my choice for today at that rate.

Unvote, Vote: Kasshoodles

That's pretty convenient, considering zoid has been pretty commanding all game and now you can sheep it . Also your ambivalence to SD - so you agree a with zoid but probably not about half of what he is saying ?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

We should kill Bacde.

Brb.

Yeah DGB and I were just talking about this in our QT. More from us in a bit.

[AngryPidgeon]

I don't think Kash is scum. I really think its SD. If scum is setting me up with the Rach kill to think this, then GFG. Or they just rando-killed in which case, trollol.

Ok, so here is my spiel. I am not a 1x Bulletproof.

My 1xBP was just a ruse. I was dropping hider crumbs all day so that the scum team would pick up on it:

Spoiler: Various crumbs

certain that

absta isn't hiding

anything after skimming last night. So I'm behind absta-town for now.

I have reason to believe that I was killed

Im not

hiding

jackshit.

The idea was to try and bait the scumteam to kill my target tonight since I was pretty sure they would see my crumbs and think that I was gambiting with my claim 1xBP to get them to shoot me again:

I think Im going to look into Safety Dance a little tonight. Like I'm pretty sure hes town, but I just wanna feel better about that read and see if I can't find anything that was hiding before.

I crumbed a hide on absta night 1. Here is the silly part though. I'm not actually a hider either.

Im a Jack of all Trades {1xHide, 1xDoctor, 1xTrack}.

On night 1 I hid behind absta. On night 2 I protected SD (since I expected him to get killed because of my hide crumbs on him). Now, the Rach kill is like reaaaaaalllly out of place. I can't for the life of me imagine why she would get NK'd over the people that were actually big townreads for everyone (and shes VT too, so). Oh wait, yes I can! SD is scum and the RM NK would create a lot of WIFOM when AP flips

Town Hider

alongside VT RM. Because lets face it, I crumbed the shit out of that hide and it was pretty clear to anyone paying attention that I was gunning for SD. I know for a fact that Bacde and Zoidberg picked up on my crumbs. And I have meta of being a hider in an open game in which I said I was going to hide behind a player and then lied and hid elsewhere so that argument could also have been used to protect SD from the implications of my death.

RachMarie is one of the few people that I would have reasonably hid behind which explains why she died - to make SD less suspicious as a result of my crumbs.

DZMD feels so off to me this game and I don't like how quick they were to call SD conftown. I mean I appreciate the hustle, but you weren't even remotely suspicious of what I may have done since I was clearly being deceptive as fuck in the first place with my BP claim? I just want you to know that I may have miscalculated slightly with my SD crumbs, but I'm like 95% on SD being scum as a result, so. I'm always 2 steps ahead of you DGB and don't forget it ,

ALSO. If Bacde is scum then SD is DEFINITELY scum. I will lynch SD over Bacde Today because if Bacde/SD were scum/town, then Bacde would have to be a step ahead of me in my crazy gambit land. And I refuse to believe that.

TL;DR

: Im a Joat {Hide on absta N1, doc on SD N2, unused track}. The scumteam clearly bought my hider story last night because they killed RM and her death makes no sense otherwise unless SD is scum and they were trying to cover for him looking bad on my flip. Zoid/Bacde are the 2 people that I am 100% certain saw my BP claim for the BS that it was and would have picked up on the hider thing. But I think SD needs to go.
VOTE: SafetyDance

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I was dropping hider crumbs all day so that the scum team would pick up on it:

Yeah DGB picked up on it.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I was clearly being deceptive as fuck in the first place with my BP claim?

Yes I realized that, but you claimed a 1-shot BP, you looked like a hider trying to draw the NK to me. I gambit as town all the time, I think I can tell a gambiting townie from a fakeclaiming scum.

RachMarie... too townie? Unlikely to be doc-protected? Maybe loud players have town reads on scum, so they're letting us live?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

The scumteam clearly bought my hider story

You know I love you AP but you may be overestimating your adversaries.

I breadcrumbed hider hints in a game that I thought were over-the-top obvious, emphasizing them with

bolds

,

italics

.

underlines

and

large text

for crissakes, and no one picked them up until after I was dead. I even think that was a large theme game because I tend to play mostly those, so there was a whole crowd and no one picked it up while I was alive.

I am disappointed that you full claimed without everyone having showed up yet. That was not the optimal timing. We would have been able to see who might have picked up on it, and who might not...

I do agree that Bacde looked bad, and Zoidberg pointed out to me how Bacde started an early wagon on Xegarus/Zdenek, who responded with

"What the fuck is this shit?"

and I agree with Zoidberg that this sounds an awful lot like scum upset about being bus'ed.

I haven't taken a deep look at Bacde yet, but right now I'd lynch him before SD, because SD asked for Zdenek to be MODKILLED. You may want to look at the circumstances of this, in the off-chance that this is scum asking for their scumpal to be mod-obliterated.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Let's say I'm scum and I pick up a hider crumb that's targeting my buddy.

What do I do? The hider will die and my buddy will still be alive and he'll be auto-lynched. That would be pretty much an inevitable outcome.

So I'd kill whoever I'd normally kill anyway, and bus the living daylights out of my surviving buddy for town cred. I'd made sure to be first in line, and nightkill the hider next time he breadcrumbs hiding behind a townie for a 2-for-1.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I iso'd RachMarie last night, I may have been tired, but her postings seemed very amorphous, if there were people she was rabidly convinced were scum, I must have skipped those parts.

I'm going to go with "unlikely that a RachMarie NK would be thwarted or detected" as the reason. There is one scum down and one NK thwarted, they have to go SAFE.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Lol, no. I watch games, Im in games, Im not talking about where my read is coming from eof.

Im in hyper-troll mode this game and I love it.

I love how you don't bother to reply when

I

say it.

Look at your post and when it was made. You are calling me scum based on reads from the games I have played. Otherwise you have no basis. If it is based on games going then you should apologise and renege otherwise,

I am asking you to be mod-killed based on site-rules about discussion of current games

. Fuck your claim.

That'll teach you to troll.

Post in question:

P.s. SD's attempts at compromise recently feel off; like I know hes capable of getting frustrated over annoying/bad play and he doesn't feel like he really is, but kind of implies he is. If that made sense to anyone.

Wait a minute. SD was asking for AP to be modkilled, NOT Xegarus/Zdenek.

Well. That changes a lot of things.

-DGB

[Bacde]

hey guys,

I'm town. Not feeling the suspicion towards me.

I'm also not feeling the suspicion on SD. This is for a couple reasons:

1) He was the blatant counterwagon to Zde
2) He asked for Zde to be modkilled (he

also

asked for AP to be modkilled)
3) He made a really townie post in particular about RandomYoshi

As of yesterday, I'm also a Hiraki fan, just solidly better

Here's what I've got so far

Town Pool

Bacde
Absta
AP
DR ZOID
SD
Hiraki

Scum be here

Revenus
Majiffy
Kashoodles
IFM

I think the Majiffy slot in particular has fallen to the wayside, deserves more scrutiny, and is likely scum. I don't like how he came out the gate voting for SD.

Vote: Majiffy

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Well.

Look at that.

I really really like that Bacde post.

Majiffy was once RandomYoshi, and once MsMarangal. Marangal quit this game and signed up for another the next day in the queue. So that was a really fishy replace out. RandomYoshi was unengaged and working the game's margins, and I wanted to lynch him bad. Majiffy - I'll always vote, vig, or NK Majiffy in any game to make him disappear faster. In the game, he's done literally nothing but post from the sidelines just like RandomYoshi.

I have to re-read Revenus.

[Hiraki]

Out of that list, I'd rather Kash or IFM--not that it wasn't blaringly obvious or anything.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Hey, who was calling RachMarie "town" yesterday?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Meh. I'm not seeing anyone with town-boner for Rach.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Another iso down, IFM is a very good scum candidate. Lots of excuses and sounds very artificial.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

He dropped a scum slip about the night kill.

kashoodles can you explain the above?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Also iso'd Hiraki, Hiraki =/= scum.

Currently narrowing it down to Majiffy & IFM.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

With a dash of kashoodles, actually, I'm looking forward to his answer to the above question.

-DGB

[Hiraki]

I'm actually quite glad that RachMarie is killed because I'm usually wrong in reading her.

[absta101]

Who did Rach find town/scum?

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If SD waggon grows i'm gonna have to vote Kash.

@AP - We can kill Bacde then track Kash and win. Unless they kill you. At least you'll know that Kash and Bacde are scum.

[absta101]

@Bacde - Why's Kash scum?

[AngryPidgeon]

Not feeling the suspicion towards me.

Spoiler:

You know I love you AP but you may be overestimating your adversaries.

Either that or I'm right on the money.

So I'd kill whoever I'd normally kill anyway, and bus the living daylights out of my surviving buddy for town cred. I'd made sure to be first in line, and nightkill the hider next time he breadcrumbs hiding behind a townie for a 2-for-1.

Ok. I was in a game where scum clearly killed HavingFitz BECAUSE they 'knew' I was targeting their buddy and Fitz was the one kill that could mitigate that.

Meh. I'm not seeing anyone with town-boner for Rach.

This is my point. Rach was basically a null read at best for everyone. Why NK someone that no one think is prob town?

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I am 100% serious about Bacde/SD not being scum/town. If Bacde is scum then I am 100% sure that SD is scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

Bacde, how sure are you about SD scum?

Also, I still don't see IFM/Kash scum. I would infinitely rather lynch SD or even Revenus/Bacde/Zoid. And Im leaning scum Zoid over scum Bacde right now.

[AngryPidgeon]

He dropped a scum slip about the night kill.

kashoodles can you explain the above?

-DGB

He did by the way. This was SD talking to me about RY and he apparently meant to say "RY wasn't the lynch either" but he said "Ry wasn't the NK either" and it was confusing at first until he explained it.