Mini 378- R&GAS: GAME OVER

[EmpTyger]

All players have been prodded.

Votecount

1 ThAdmiral

(The Central Scrutinizer)

1 The Central Scrutinizer

(HackerHuck)

Not voting: Sherlock, rogue_two, Jules, ThAdmiral, Bogre

[HackerHuck]

I'm just responding to my prod.

[Bogre]

Do you think I'm responding to a prod?

[HackerHuck]

Was Bogre the one who started the first question game?

[HackerHuck]

Are we still in "Everyone must vote for someone" mode?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Responding to prod.

[Jules]

So The Central Scrutinizer has claimed cop with an innocent on Maz Medias and a guilty on The Admiral?

vote ThAdmiral

just now as it looks like we have to vote someone. This quote...

How about 100% chance of hitting scum?

ThAdmiral is scum.

... helped me with my decision, coming as it did before The Central Scrutinizer claimed cop, as if he had information. I'm assuming he said this on the basis of his investigation, following the 2nd night. Is that correct?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

So The Central Scrutinizer has claimed cop with an innocent on Maz Medias and a guilty on The Admiral?

vote ThAdmiral

just now as it looks like we have to vote someone. This quote...

How about 100% chance of hitting scum?

ThAdmiral is scum.

... helped me with my decision, coming as it did before The Central Scrutinizer claimed cop, as if he had information. I'm assuming he said this on the basis of his investigation, following the 2nd night. Is that correct?

Yes, I did so on impulse, and then quickly rushed to cover my tracks with some sort of reasoning as I realized he was role fishing.

[Bogre]

Why do you think -I- started it?

Wasn't it Rosso Carne who started the first one?

Whose role is it to start games of questions?

Have you noticed my post restriction yet?

[HackerHuck]

Bogre - What do you think of the Scrutinizer's claim and his earlier vote on Maz?

Did you forget that the questions game was lost during the crash?

Is there a role that starts games of questions?

[ThAdmiral]

I went away over new years, but I am back now. I'll post again later.

[Bogre]

Shouldn't you think I am certain there is a role that starts questions?

Don't you think the first game was BS and not role-related?

[HackerHuck]

Have you forgotten that I wasn't around during the first game?

Are you deliberately ignoring my first question about the cop claim?

[EmpTyger]

Act 2, Scene 2

“

mikefireburn

’s transformation: What do you recollect?”
Well,

rogue_two

’s changed, hasn't he? The exterior and inward man fails to resemble.
“Is he now what he was before?”
If he is him and he is him, then yes, they are one and the same.
“So how do we know who each respective he is?”
It's a matter of asking the right questions and giving away as little as we can.
“And then we can go?”
On with the game.

Votecount

2 ThAdmiral

(The Central Scrutinizer, Jules)

1 The Central Scrutinizer

(HackerHuck)

Not voting: Sherlock, mikeburnfire, ThAdmiral, Bogre

[mikeburnfire]

Hi Everybody!

[EmpTyger]

Act 2, Scene 3

Hasn't it ever happened to you that all of a sudden and for no reason at all you haven't the faintest idea how to spell the word which or house, because when you write it down, you just can't remember ever having seen those letters in that order before?
“No.”
No?
“Which house?”
Well, I picked that as an example. There is no house, not really.
“So if there is no house, it doesn’t exist; hence anything dependent on it hasn’t happened. Therefore, no.”
Excellently deduced, Sherlock.
“Who?”
S-H-E-R-L-O-C-K.
“He doesn’t exist.”
Not

Sherlock

. Sherlock.
“Anachronism: W. Shakespeare’s works are set and written at least hundreds of years before A. C. Doyle’s.”
Ignore past and future for the purposes of existence. Anything should be able to be generalized to every time.
“So has

Sherlock

ever not existed?”
Or equivalently, has

Jack

ever existed?
“Have *we* ever existed?”

Votecount

2 ThAdmiral

(The Central Scrutinizer, Jules)

1 The Central Scrutinizer

(HackerHuck)

Not voting: Jack, mikeburnfire, ThAdmiral, Bogre

[Jack]

VoteThAdmiral

There hasn't been a cop in the kills list. TCS hasn't been counterclaimed. He says ThAdmiral is guilty. This isn't rocket science.

Lynch -1

[Jack]

Also, hello everybody

First read through: the "rich" guy seemed scummy but Hacker seems innocent. Serinah seemed quite scummy which makes me think she might have been vigged. Don't have an opinion either way yet on rogue_two (mikeburn), Jules, or Bogre.

...

On reread, there were two kills round one, and serinah mentioned on the first page that she "fancied her role" so a SK is more likely. This adds further credence to TCS's claim, I can't see a game with two killing parties and no cop.

[Jack]

ThAdmiral wasn't posting much content. Bogre and ThAdmiral were voting eachother day 1 which could be a distancing tactic. I don't like rogue_two's vote for bogre instead of rosso. I'm surprised Rosso was lynched. ThAdmiral was fifth on the bandwagon. TCS dropped the hammer though. ThAdmiral did seem to be fishing earlier although I do agree the cop should have spoken up. I don't think it's clear that we're in lylo though. I suppose HackerHuck is rolefishing as well but But if they think it's lynch or lose then they wouldn't care about a cop at all, maybe a vig and ThAdmiral did fish for the vig. I do find the way HH and ThAdmiral are sure it's lylo suspicious, the game setup isn't known. Maybe they are scum who know it isn't lynch or lose and are eager to get rid of the cop. TCS really does sound like a cop. Bogre says someone is post rescrictioning him, I'd like him to elaborate, could be a scum tactic. I don't like HH's switch to TCS. Still don't have an opinion on Jules, he seems to have slipped under the radar, he doesn't have an avatar though. He is voting Admiral though.

Sorry for the rambling style, I wrote it while reading.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

ThAdmiral wasn't posting much content. Bogre and ThAdmiral were voting eachother day 1 which could be a distancing tactic. I don't like rogue_two's vote for bogre instead of rosso. I'm surprised Rosso was lynched. ThAdmiral was fifth on the bandwagon. TCS dropped the hammer though. ThAdmiral did seem to be fishing earlier although I do agree the cop should have spoken up. I don't think it's clear that we're in lylo though. I suppose HackerHuck is rolefishing as well but But if they think it's lynch or lose then they wouldn't care about a cop at all, maybe a vig and ThAdmiral did fish for the vig. I do find the way HH and ThAdmiral are sure it's lylo suspicious, the game setup isn't known. Maybe they are scum who know it isn't lynch or lose and are eager to get rid of the cop. TCS really does sound like a cop. Bogre says someone is post rescrictioning him, I'd like him to elaborate, could be a scum tactic. I don't like HH's switch to TCS. Still don't have an opinion on Jules, he seems to have slipped under the radar, he doesn't have an avatar though. He is voting Admiral though.

Sorry for the rambling style, I wrote it while reading.

Pretty good stuff, rambling or no.

Should we decide collectively who to investigate, or should I just use my judgment?

[HackerHuck]

ThAdmiral wasn't posting much content. Bogre and ThAdmiral were voting eachother day 1 which could be a distancing tactic. I don't like rogue_two's vote for bogre instead of rosso. I'm surprised Rosso was lynched. ThAdmiral was fifth on the bandwagon. TCS dropped the hammer though. ThAdmiral did seem to be fishing earlier although I do agree the cop should have spoken up. I don't think it's clear that we're in lylo though. I suppose HackerHuck is rolefishing as well but But if they think it's lynch or lose then they wouldn't care about a cop at all, maybe a vig and ThAdmiral did fish for the vig. I do find the way HH and ThAdmiral are sure it's lylo suspicious, the game setup isn't known. Maybe they are scum who know it isn't lynch or lose and are eager to get rid of the cop. TCS really does sound like a cop. Bogre says someone is post rescrictioning him, I'd like him to elaborate, could be a scum tactic. I don't like HH's switch to TCS. Still don't have an opinion on Jules, he seems to have slipped under the radar, he doesn't have an avatar though. He is voting Admiral though.

Sorry for the rambling style, I wrote it while reading.

Welcome Jack. Way to jump in to the game head first!

I feel pretty confident that we're at LYLO, because the only way we're not is if there are only two mafia. It's possible, but I think it's so unlikely that it's worth the risk to assume we're at LYLO.

I find Scrutinizer's vote on Maz totally at odds with his innocent claim and his justification makes no sense in my eyes.

I do agreee that without a counterclaim, Scrutinizer's claim becomes much more believable. As unlikely as I think only two scum would be, not having a cop seems even more unlikely.

[Jack]

I feel pretty confident that we're at LYLO, because the only way we're not is if there are only two mafia. It's possible, but I think it's so unlikely that it's worth the risk to assume we're at LYLO.

I don't know, in a game called "Rosencrantz

(1)

and Guildenstern

(2)

are

scum

" I don't find 2 scum improbable. It could be balanced by a dearth of pro town abilities.

I find Scrutinizer's vote on Maz totally at odds with his innocent claim and his justification makes no sense in my eyes.

I don't know about this, cops often do things to appear "not cop" before claiming. He also cast doubts on there being a cop at all, for example.

[Jack]

Who was playing the questions game with rich_25 before the crash?

[mikeburnfire]

I read through the game just now. I don't really know who to suspect yet, but that whole jester fiasco was pretty funny.

Also, I like the surreal posts from the mod. They remind me of the

"Does something like a "self" exist inside of you?"

speach from Metal Gear Solid.

Yeah.... this post seems pretty useless.

[ThAdmiral]

Sorry for the lack of content, I've been busy lately.

I was going to post some long winded thing about how central scrutinizer isn't the cop, that he's just scum and he's lying about the fact that im guilty to get people to mislynch and then lose. But I am not going to do that.

I

am

guilty.

But wait! I am NOT mafia. I am a serial killer, and if we are indeed in lylo, as i strongly believe is the case, I may be the only way to turn this game around for the town. I put it to you that you use me as a vigilante: you choose the player and I target them over night.
Look at the facts:
If there are 3 mafia - If you lynch me you lose as there will be three mafia and three town left.
If there are 2 mafia - in my opinion this is less likely, however if this is the case the town could win in one swoop with a correct lynch and correct targeting by me during night.

This might sound a bit crazy to you but consider it first before simply hammering me. I am no threat during the day so take your time to decide if you simply want to lynch me today and risk losing or lynch me later. My role is William Shakespeare by the way, and if you want to know what is in it for me, well I guess i like the town better, and i would get to play for another day.