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Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:38 am

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SE-Asians (L-5): I Am Innocent, kuror0
Wisdom (L-3): Fate, Nachomamma8, pirate mollie, Human Destroyer
Fate (L-3): SE-Asians, Wisdom, borkjerfkin, buldermar
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Not Voting: RachMarie, mantisdreamz

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Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:38 am

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In post 1856, buldermar wrote:
In post 1852, Human Destroyer wrote:he's not calling me scum

he's just trying to discredit my reads lmao

I don't think it's even remotedly as bad as you're insinuating. I think you're confirmation biased at the moment - just like you were with Asians. Not saying that Wis or Asians are necessarily town, but I think you're just interpreting everything as if it's scummy atm from them.

What do you think of Wisdom's blatant misrepping of Mollie?
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Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:39 am

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In post 1875, Majiffy wrote:
SE-Asians (L-5): I Am Innocent, kuror0
Wisdom (L-3): Fate, Nachomamma8, pirate mollie, Human Destroyer
Fate (L-3): SE-Asians, Wisdom, borkjerfkin, buldermar
I Am Innocent (L-6): Remembrance

Not Voting: RachMarie, mantisdreamz

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Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST


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Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:39 am

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In post 1863, Remembrance wrote:I'll block with Bulder. But you need to post why Bork is obv. town. and why HD is obv. town.

I'll do this but I'm really too lazy tonight. In short I think bork looked town from essentially after he decided to play this game and not replace out. He made a series of good and thoughtful observations just after that, and had a lot of conversation with mollie that looked town. This is just off of my memory, I'll have to ISO to remember exactly why I've convinced myself.

I don't see scum-HD pushing that Asians-lynch so thoroughly for so long with so much resistance when there are so many easy alternatives and it's so high risk even if he succesfully gets town-Asians mislynched. I think he's just misguided with respect to Asians (because I think at this point that Asians is town).
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Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:41 am

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In post 1872, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1832, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1831, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1751, Wisdom wrote:Your reasoning for me being scum is garbage, so no you're not adding content. I don't think anyone considers "oh look this guy is spamming" as a valid reason for me being scum.
Do you know what content is? Post your reads, and post reasons.
And you don't have to refresh while doing that. Just make your post. Nobody will ninja you this way.
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you are spamming shit and burying people's reads and making the game hard to follow. yes there is scum motivation behind that it is how vifam and uber goober won the posh game

fate has a point don't you even fucking dare try to dismiss it

Haha. Another scum that has problems with my activity. Last Diffusion game I got NKed on N1 because of that.


I am not scum and no matter how many times you pretend that is so will not make it true

and it isn't your activity level that I have a problem with it is the content that goes along with it and of course the convenience of your reads

I was talking about Fate actually, but sure, you too.
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Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:41 am

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In post 1873, Human Destroyer wrote:4 person town block

This is going to be badass

bork and Nacho, are you both cool with this block and if not, why?
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Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:41 am

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In post 1876, Human Destroyer wrote:What do you think of Wisdom's blatant misrepping of Mollie?

My what?
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Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:42 am

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In post 1875, Majiffy wrote:
SE-Asians (L-5): I Am Innocent, kuror0
Wisdom (L-3): Fate, Nachomamma8, pirate mollie, Human Destroyer
Fate (L-3): SE-Asians, Wisdom, borkjerfkin, buldermar
I Am Innocent (L-6): Remembrance

Not Voting: RachMarie, mantisdreamz

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Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:42 am

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In post 1842, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1840, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1779, Wisdom wrote:Except I didn't tailor shit. If people start acting town after I vote them, I'll call them town. mollie usually uses this way more than me and it's hypocritical that she accuses me of this.


so you admit that I am town then. thanks!

No?
I said that you usually use this way of playing more than me and therefore you should understand that it's not a scumtell.


and I get called scummy every time I do it. it is a relative town tell for me but not for you, so fuck yeah I can you out on it unless you want to try to assert that you do this as town and that we have the same town meta

if you want to do that you are going to have to backpedal on your scumread of me
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Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:43 am

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In post 1876, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1856, buldermar wrote:
In post 1852, Human Destroyer wrote:he's not calling me scum

he's just trying to discredit my reads lmao

I don't think it's even remotedly as bad as you're insinuating. I think you're confirmation biased at the moment - just like you were with Asians. Not saying that Wis or Asians are necessarily town, but I think you're just interpreting everything as if it's scummy atm from them.

What do you think of Wisdom's blatant misrepping of Mollie?

I don't see it. Is it any one specific post? Because then I'll read it if you link me to it.
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Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:43 am

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In post 1877, Human Destroyer wrote:YOU MADE IT TO THE TOP OF THE PAGE

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Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:44 am

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Guys how do you feel about me going to bed and you not posting for the next ~9 hours? Good idea, yes?
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Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:45 am

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Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:45 am

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In post 1853, buldermar wrote:
In post 1845, Human Destroyer wrote:I reject Rem

Why not mollie

I think mollie is attempting to push a Wisdom lynch for stupid reasons.

Why not rem?


so why would you leave me out of a bloc then? if my reasons are stupid then they are town and you would still be trying to work with me

I don't think they are stupid

at all
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Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:47 am

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In post 1883, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1842, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1840, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1779, Wisdom wrote:Except I didn't tailor shit. If people start acting town after I vote them, I'll call them town. mollie usually uses this way more than me and it's hypocritical that she accuses me of this.


so you admit that I am town then. thanks!

No?
I said that you usually use this way of playing more than me and therefore you should understand that it's not a scumtell.


and I get called scummy every time I do it. it is a relative town tell for me but not for you, so fuck yeah I can you out on it unless you want to try to assert that you do this as town and that we have the same town meta

if you want to do that you are going to have to backpedal on your scumread of me

Why would I backpedal; for starters you have not done anything of the sort this game, but instead parked your vote twice.

The point is you know such a behavior can come from town, and you know it first hand because you're usually the user of such behavior, yet the only reason you have for calling me scum is this. That's why you're a hypocrite.
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Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:48 am

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In post 1859, buldermar wrote:
In post 1857, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1853, buldermar wrote:
In post 1845, Human Destroyer wrote:I reject Rem

Why not mollie

I think mollie is attempting to push a Wisdom lynch for stupid reasons.

Why not rem?

because I don't see the arguments for why he's town to be honest
I think there was one thing I brought up where I was like "Okay, maybe a little townish? Kinda? Sorta?" but nothing that rocked my socks.

I'll accept anyone in {bork, Nacho, kuro, mantis?, mollie, Fate}

I'll consider Nacho. Havn't paid much attention to kuro and mantis.

Either way: bork, what do you think about this? Do you still think Fate is the best lynch today?


wait weren't you the one who suggested nacho. I mean were you not giving him a town read like 5 minutes ago
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Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:48 am

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SORRY I MEANT STRAWMANNING

In post 1884, buldermar wrote:
In post 1876, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1856, buldermar wrote:
In post 1852, Human Destroyer wrote:he's not calling me scum

he's just trying to discredit my reads lmao

I don't think it's even remotedly as bad as you're insinuating. I think you're confirmation biased at the moment - just like you were with Asians. Not saying that Wis or Asians are necessarily town, but I think you're just interpreting everything as if it's scummy atm from them.

What do you think of Wisdom's blatant misrepping of Mollie?

I don't see it. Is it any one specific post? Because then I'll read it if you link me to it.


In post 1724, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1615, Wisdom wrote:IaI prolly isn't scum, Remembrance. What you're accusing him of can be done by stubborn town too.

@HD
Remind me why you townreaded Bacde.


the biggest thing I have against you is that have pretty much called everyone town whenever a bw forms. according to you, se is town, mantis, I was until I voted you, rememory is and I am sure all the rest of the players are. I think fluidity is generally a town tell, but yours seems to conveniently change depending on who is around at the time. other than that I had you as town and I still waffle. but that big thing is really a BIG THING


Mollie calls Wisdom out by saying he conveniently calls people town when bandwagons form on those people.

In post 1727, Wisdom wrote:@mollie
That thing is bullshit, because as I've said multiple times it's not easy to get scumreads this game. It's not only me who's having difficulties getting reads.


Wisdom responds by saying he's having difficulty getting scumreads, thereby somehow nullifying her point about his reads being convenient? Ahaha no.
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Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:48 am

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In post 1888, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1853, buldermar wrote:
In post 1845, Human Destroyer wrote:I reject Rem

Why not mollie

I think mollie is attempting to push a Wisdom lynch for stupid reasons.

Why not rem?


so why would you leave me out of a bloc then? if my reasons are stupid then they are town and you would still be trying to work with me

I don't think they are stupid

at all

Not if you're doing it deliberately. I'm quite convinced that it's not scummy to attempt to stay alive when you're close to being lynched, so it's only really a matter of whether I trust that you think it is or not.
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Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:49 am

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In post 1890, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1859, buldermar wrote:
In post 1857, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 1853, buldermar wrote:
In post 1845, Human Destroyer wrote:I reject Rem

Why not mollie

I think mollie is attempting to push a Wisdom lynch for stupid reasons.

Why not rem?

because I don't see the arguments for why he's town to be honest
I think there was one thing I brought up where I was like "Okay, maybe a little townish? Kinda? Sorta?" but nothing that rocked my socks.

I'll accept anyone in {bork, Nacho, kuro, mantis?, mollie, Fate}

I'll consider Nacho. Havn't paid much attention to kuro and mantis.

Either way: bork, what do you think about this? Do you still think Fate is the best lynch today?


wait weren't you the one who suggested nacho. I mean were you not giving him a town read like 5 minutes ago

Which is why I said I would consider him being a part of the town block (which I by now have accepted)? I think you're misreading something.
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Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:50 am

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In post 1866, buldermar wrote:
In post 1860, pirate mollie wrote:as town you win regardless of your death

You do the same as scum.


yabbut the wc colours your posts like is this your first game or wat
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Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:52 am

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Screw this... I'm trying to post and you guys post like maniacs, so my post gets outdated.

So right now I'm going off and will fear the day I come back to see 1000 pages unread. Will re-make a post whit some stuff I got out of all this novel when you guys get off that crack-fueled convoluted posting madness you are running today. I'm a slow poster so sucks to be me.

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Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:53 am

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In post 1891, Human Destroyer wrote:Wisdom responds by saying he's having difficulty getting scumreads, thereby somehow nullifying her point about his reads being convenient? Ahaha no.

It doesn't nullify her point, agreed. But there also is the possibility that he actually
does
find it difficult forming scumreads.

If we go by the hypothesis that he's town and actually does find it difficult, what do you think he should have responded?
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Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:54 am

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In post 1894, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 1866, buldermar wrote:
In post 1860, pirate mollie wrote:as town you win regardless of your death

You do the same as scum.


yabbut the wc colours your posts like is this your first game or wat
I don't get the point you're attempting to convey here. Can you phrase it in a different way?
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Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:55 am

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In post 1895, kuror0 wrote:ebwop: ofc 100 posts while I made this message.

Holy shit you must type so slow :D
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Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:55 am

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Something that would've explained why his reads weren't as convenient as mollie is saying they are? A better explanation of how he formed his reads? His point has literally
nothing
to do with mollie's, but he made it out to be that way.
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