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I think dragyn mage made a joke.
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Okay, I've reread the argument, and I'm thinking about it. Angus made a scumtell by non-random random voting, then milkman pounced on it very aggressively. I'd say even a bit too aggressively.
If Angus is scum, then CDB is prolly his scumbuddy.
I don't really like Angus's defense either. He's very clearly pulling the newbie card here, and I don't like that. You should always be able to defend yourself, even as a new guy. I don't understand what conventions he must've missed for him to make that post.
I think I'llUnvote, Vote: AngusHutchsky, for the case against him is strongest so far. I'm keeping my eyes out for bandwagoners, though.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Claiming you're new to the site is pulling the newbie card.AngusHutchsky wrote:Zindaras, and everyone else for that matter, I am not pulling the 'newbie card.' I have tried over and over to explain that, even when I posted that I was new to the site I followed it by saying I am not new to Mafia. What more would you like me to say? And as far as being able to defend myself, in this case I don't see how. Y has made a solid argument, a wrong accusation, but a solid argument none-the-less. The only other thing I could do to convince you is roleclaim, which I am not quite prepared to do yet.
1) Prolly. Not a definite statement, I'm just pointing, as CDB himself said, to Post 44, and I don't want that to be ignored.draygn_mage wrote:One is telling us that CDB is Angus's scumbuddy (its WAY too early in the game to make that kind of statement, and besides, CDB is an experienced player who I don't think would risk his neck for a scumbuddy)
2) WIFOM.
Again, you're not reading my post right. All I'm saying is that I feel the case against Angus is the strongest one right now, so my vote's on him. I'm not sure about my vote, so I'm keeping my eyes out for bandwagons that may point at scum and the like.and then to follow that up with "but I'll be looking for bandwagonners"????? So you feel he is scum, but *just in case he's not* you'll be watching to see who votes him.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Unvote, Vote: HurriKaty
Me no like her vote. At all.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I don't think it really strokes with your earlier posts, and it is Lynch-2.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Ah, I see I was wrong about which vote was cast by HurriKaty. No matter, it's still in the dangerous bandwagon zone. As was yours, Jack. And I don't really like how you're making a ridiculous vote on me.FoS: JackShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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High danger (=chance) of being a bandwagon vote.Jack wrote:What was dangerous about it?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I find the people voting Y a bit odd. Weren't milkman and Angus the ones who started the whole debate?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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So you single out Coron for this? There are other lurkers, you know.Jack wrote:We'll see. My thinking is that scum would lurk during the Angus thing knowing he was innocent.
Unvote, Vote: Jack
FoS: HurriKaty
Fairly sure we've got 2 scum there.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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You're not unvoting him, even though he posted. Then it's not a lurker vote anymore. And there are enough people who haven't posted a lot of content throughout the day.Jack wrote:Huh? I can only vote for one person you know. I noticed Coron. Who were the other lurkers?
You're not voting lurkers if you still vote him after he makes a post explaining his disappearance.More importantly, why is voting for lurkers when the game is clearly dying down a bit scummy in the slightest? I'm tempted to move my vote back to you.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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1) This is not an argument why you're not voting other lurkers.Jack wrote:He hasn't posted content:
It's a mistake to let someone of the hook for an "I'll post something in a bit" post. Scum do that as a delaying tactic, I've seen it happen. You should know this. This makes me think you are scum. You've also echoed StallingChamp's "we've got scum here" even though it's only day one.Coron wrote:I'll try to post something of actual content soon.
2) Yes, I'm letting him off the hook, as long as the post he promised actually comes. That seems fairly obvious.
You're a bit wrong about this. While irregularities are indeed a great way to catch scum, there are some universal scum and townie tells. These tells work great, and have led me to catching lots of scum.draygn_mage wrote:Its also scummy to keep saying "I think so and so is scum because he did _______. and Scum do ________ as a delaying/misdirection tactic." Congratulations you guys have turned this into WIFOM 101. Scum do EVERYTHING as a tactic. They vote with the town, they vote against the town, they defend townies, they defend scum, they persecute townies, they persecute scum, they lurk, they post prolificly, etc. The only things that can really count as scummy are irregularities. If, for instance, you notice on day one that player x was harping on and on about lurking and then on day 3 they're only posting when directly spoken to, that is an irregularity and something I would call scummy. If you read through a game in which player y was townie and kept leading the town, and then you notice that here they are being more of a follower, that may be scummy. I don't have enough info to really call anyone scummy at this point. I'm just calling attention to lapses in logic or reasoning.
Anyway, what I'm accusing Jack of is a perfect example of an irregularity.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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You can FoS more than one person at any given time, you can change your vote after someone has posted they will post more content (and that post was, for me, the reason to change my vote).Jack wrote:How about, oh I don't know, you can't vote more than one person at once?
Where'd you get that ridiculous idea?If you don't single someone out you aren't going to get taken seriously.
It's easy for people to ignore "you 4 post more ok". I see no reason to concern myself with other people until then.Vote: 1, FoS: 2,3,4
When 1 posts, unvote, vote 2. And go on.
You can't ignore that.
Since when is this a bad thing?Your number 2 is less safe than my way.
We're talking about how you're scum. That is important enough to warrant discussion.Getting lurkers posting isn't as important enough to warrant all this discussion.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Weaker than doing nothing at all, as you have done?Jack wrote:Past experience. FoS's are weak.
As dragyn_mage said, it's an irregularity that you're singling out Coron, not anyone else. I don't like the way you don't unvote when he posts.Except we aren't discussing how I'm scum, we're discussing what the best way to deal with lurkers is. You haven't made any connection between "singled out one lurker" and "scum". Why is it scummy that I haven't unvoted Coron?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I've been consequent and voting bandwagoners.Jack wrote:And you have done what?
It's irregular because you attack one person, but leave similar cases untouched.No, it would be an irregularity if I did everyone one round and then only one person the next round. He hasn't posted any content yet.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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It is irregular because you use different measures for different people.Jack wrote:This is not irregular, by the definition of the word. You're going to have to come up with a reason of your own rather than piggybacking off of draygn_mage's logic.
Meh, I just liked the way dragyn worded it. It doesn't change the point, however.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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It is not irregular behaviour for you, the irregularity lies in the fact that you treat two similar cases in dissimilar ways.Jack wrote:What makes you think this is irregular behavior for me?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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This is exactly my point. You ignore other, similar cases. That's an irregularity right there.Jack wrote:1) I haven't treated the similar cases at all...yet.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Yes. This is not an illogical way to go, if you think someone is possibly scum but not convinced. Bandwagons usually occur on town, so it's a point in favour of the guy getting wagoned.Jack wrote:To recap before this point, Zindaras jumped on the Angus wagon while saying he was going to keep an eye on bandwagoners.
So I was bandwagoning?Not only is that hypocritical,
Bandwagoning is an easy out for scum. Looking at bandwagoners is an easy way to catch scum.but voting for bandwagoners is an easy out for scum.
It's in the bandwagon zone, and it's in the zone where there's a high danger (chance) of the vote being a wagon vote. This makes perfect sense.He later FoS's me and votes HurriKaty for votes which are in the "dangerous bandwagon zone". I ask him what's dangerous and he says that by danger he means a high chance of being a bandwagon vote, which doesn't make sense if you look at the original wording.
Baseless.He didn't think out his vote because he's not really looking for scum.
It is irregular behaviour. The irregularity does not have to be between multiple posts. The irregularity lies in the fact that youNow look at the last page where he was accusing me. You see draygn_mage makse a post about irregularities and gives examples which involve a player changing his behavior. Since my vote for Coron is only one action it can't possible involve me changing my behavior from one manner to another, that would require two actions. Zindaras however says:
He didn't really buy into draygn_mages reasoning and think it applied to me, he was just using it for support.attack one player for something, and let another player go free for exactly the same thing. There is a difference (irregularity) in the behaviour regarding comparable situations.
Not displaying the same behaviour towards comparable players is the same as not displaying the same behaviour as time changes. In dragyn's example, the variable time changed (Day 1-->Day 3). In you, the variable player changed.
Ergo, irregularity.
I have said, multiple times, that I'm voting you because you're using different measures for comparable players, which insinuates that there is a difference, to you, between the players. Which would, therefore, imply outside knowledge, ergo, scum.The two of us took up an entire page and he still hasn't explained his reason for voting me. First he tried to use someone elses logic and now he's changed his reason to "he's voting coron but not other lurkers" but hasn't explained why that is scummy (or irregular but that's just semantics). It isn't btw, that's how I like to call out lurkers. If you call out three people they all know you just want them to delurk, if you call out one he may think you find him genuinely scummy and post something worthwile.
Your whole irregularity argument consists of nothing but semantics, and you haven't explained how it's irregular to vote one lurker but leave the rest untouched. You haven't explained why it would put more pressure on anyone to vote one lurker and leave the rest alone than to vote one lurker and FoS the rest.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I'm not saying it's irregular because it differs from your normal way of playing, but the irregularity lies in your treatment of other players.Jack wrote:That's regular behavior for me, therefore not irregular.
Note the word "comparable", here. You're scummy. They're not. Therefore, not comparable.you are voting me but not anyone else, this insinuates that there is a difference, to you, between me and the others. Which would, therefore, imply outside knowledge, ergo, scum.
You dropped it.In my experience, it puts more pressure. In my first newbie game I called out one of the scum for lurking but dropped it to go after someone else, he kept lurking and only dropped in to put the lynch vote on me.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that you should keep the pressure on the guy, request prods or whatnot, but not keep the vote on him after he posts, and Coron did just that. I think you were too single-minded on the matter.
If you want to keep pressure on him, unvote, go to the next guy, and if he doesn't post within a week or something, vote him again.
Chiefy could be Jack's buddy, I think.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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StD? He's not even in the game.Twito wrote:3. Jack
I was reading the reasons StD had againts him. I count picking on someone doing something that others are doing aswell scummy.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Why bother? I've done PBPA's myself, and I always skip over the drivel.draygn_mage wrote:The sad part is that if he makes it to the endgame, someone will most likely do a PBPA and have to quote all that drivel.
I'm getting more and more convinced Jack and Katy are scum.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Have you contemplated hitting them over the head with a shovel?draygn_mage wrote:
I guess. I'm just used to Puzzle, Axelrod, carrion pigoens, etc on salvation. They actually quote or link every freaking post. Can be quite annoying but it stops the whole "hey you're taking me out of context" complaint.Zindaras wrote:
Why bother? I've done PBPA's myself, and I always skip over the drivel.draygn_mage wrote:The sad part is that if he makes it to the endgame, someone will most likely do a PBPA and have to quote all that drivel.
I'm getting more and more convinced Jack and Katy are scum.
You need not quote drivel, I usually do drivel off with "Post 5-8 are drivel".ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Well, if you hit yourself with the shovel, you won't have to read it anymore either.draygn_mage wrote:LOL. Do you *know* Puzzle?? He'd probably talk me into hitting myself with the shovel. But I digress, back to the game.
But, yes, we digress.
Why are you voting me?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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That's not really an answer.draygn_mage wrote:Mostly because I haven't seen anyone else I should move it to yet.
Your vote should always be on the player you find scummiest, to prevent an untimely bandwagon on someone you don't think is scum and to put pressure on people you suspect are scum.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Lynch Katy.
She has added very little content and made a scummy vote to boot.
Unvote, Confirm Vote: HurriKaty
She can do much better than this. Masterchief needs to add content, but so does Katy, and I know she can do better than this. Also, she was in the bandwagon territory in the Angus vote.
We can lynch Jack tomorrow.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Look, whenever someone's voting me, I get a bit queasy, because I know I'm town. So I want to know why this person is voting me. I want to know his arguments, his thoughts, his mind.draygn_mage wrote:@Zindaras- No, I'm really allowed to leave my vote wherever I want. I don't generally unvote till I'm ready to vote someone else. Relax, if someone starts a bandwagon on you and I don't agree with it, I'll unvote you. Got a guilty conscience or something?
So I can hug him.
Can't go wrong with hugging, right?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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*hugs Twitty*
Well, if you know the mind of who you're arguing with, you know best how to hug him to make him feel his very best. ^_^
I aim to please with my hugs.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I don't mind Day One ending, as long as it ends in the lynch of Katy.
We shouldn't end Day just to end Day.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I find the development of the Angus wagon after I voted him extremely suspicious. Katy and Jack just pounced on it.
In my experience, it is extremely unlikely that both would be town with that move.
Then, looking at the fact that Katy is tactically lurking and the Coron/lurker thing with Jack, I get more sure that they're both scum.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I was unaware that you were gone. Or I was aware but forgot. *shrugs*ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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*shrugs*
Currently, I'm not minding whether or not you echo people's opinions. I just want to know them.
Of course, I never really had any problems with echoing other people, except in a couple of situations.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Err, it's still "tomorrow".
Well, at least, for me it is.
The deadline is the 28th. That's loads of time.
I'm mainly interested in the Y-wagon right now, as I'm not seeing it at all.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I think he'll get around to it.
*shrugs*
If he waits too long, yeah, he could get my vote.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Seriously, why isn't Katy getting more votes?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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You're not dead.HurriKaty wrote:Zindaras, must you constantly beat a dead horse?
I have already stated that I wish to know your opinions. You said you wouldn't, because then you'd just be echoing others. That is entirely irrelevant, as that'd mean that nobody would ever be able to agree with someone else. You still haven't given anything remotely resembling what I want to see from you.
Scum, yo.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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What I want is to lynch scum. You are my best shot at the matter. You refuse to give your opinions with little logical basis. When I rebut it and say you should give your opinions anyway, you ignore them.HurriKaty wrote:Apparently this game has become all about what you want now.
Your only addition to this game was the bandwagon vote on AngusHutchsky. That's scummy enough to warrant a lynch.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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OMGUS, too. I am dead set on lynching you because I feel that you are the best bet for scum. You're still avoiding giving any opinion (except, funnily, this one. The funny part is that you said that you didn't want to give opinions because you'd just be echoing others, but now you're voting me, which is hardly echoing anyone else, as you stated you would be doing if you stated your opinions) or even a good reason for your vote.HurriKaty wrote:At this point, I'm not even sure if my opinion would change your mind, because you seem dead set on sticking to the fact that you want to lynch me when there are a million other discussions going on.
You want a contribution to the game? Alright, fine.Vote: Zindaras
I find the Y-wagon based on very little logical evidence. There are some OMGUS-sentiments there, with Y and Coron now voting milkman, but I'm not entirely sure that that's the way to go either. No, I think you're the play for today.
That's just mean. You really didn't have to say that.Jack wrote:I don't get it. Why do you even play mafia? You obviously have time to show up and post, but you never say anything.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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While I can sympathise with her feelings, her continued denial of my request is rather off-setting.
Look, Katygal, all I want to know is what you think about the other players in this game. If you echo others, I won't be attacking you for that, as I feel that attacking people simply because they're echoing others is a scumtell. If I attack you for anything in your that opinion-post, it'd be for the opinions themselves (if I disagree heavily with them).ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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No. I've been on you since you 'wagoned onto Angus.HurriKaty wrote:Except that Zindaras's whole attack on me has been one OMGUS. Its just LYNCH KATY LYNCH KATY LYNCH KATY without any contributions to the other discussions that are going on, and he's asking ME for an opinion?
I'm not here to make people angry. I'm here to play a game.
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I haven't seen him post anything of substance for a while.Mod, could you prod him?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Touché.ChannelDelibird wrote:
Have you seen him post anything of substance ONCE IN THE ENTIRE GAME?Zindaras wrote:Vote: Masterchief
I haven't seen him post anything of substance for a while.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I'm good at catching scum in alko-games.
AngusHutchsky and milkman look like good lynch targets right now. Wasn't Angus supposed to paint us something?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Ah, yes, he has indeed claimed this:
Explain, Angus. You'll have aAngusHutchsky wrote: This is so annoying. I am Leonardo da Vinci - I am a pro-town artist, and I can prove it if I last through the night. Tomorrow a picture will be posted, I will have painted it, and I can paint anything you'd like to prove it. I could have sent you my suspiciouns secretly each night through my work, but now my role means nothing. Now will you go lynch a Scum instead of me?FoSuntil then.
I'll need to reread for the rest.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I'd vote Angus...if I were sure he was scum, which I'm not. I think the reactions to the absence of the painting are going to be useful, though. I think we should most definitely not rush into a lynch right now.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I think the people pushing for an Angus lynch right now are scummier than Angus himself.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Angus, could you post a nice little list with your opinions on all living players? It'd be much appreciated.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Post within 24 hours.
Hopefully.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Okay, let's take a look at this stuff. Now, I decided to take a long hard look at Twito. What I noticed is that he didn't start off voting Masterchief, who I've noticed to be his usual random vote. I also noticed that he completely avoided weighing in on the Angus issue. I don't really like his first milkman FoS in 166 either. I keep noticing some scumbuddy vibes between Jack and Twito. 207 is a good example of this, and I believe Jack was really eager to vote StallingChamp when he voted Twito earlier as well. He starts to look better later on, when he appears to put time in the game. Something that I noticed was Jack's MC vote in 330. I think the town thing to do after the absence of a painting was to FoS Angus. Jack's and Twito's votes, therefore, look bad to me. Y's vote doesn't make me happy either.
CDB's looking pretty townish. Dragy gave off town vibes in his early discussion with Angus, but 70 made me feel bad about him, and he left his vote on me for a loooong time, which I still find odd. Jack and Katy still look bad to me over the Angus-wagon. For some reason, I feel that StallingChamp is town, though I find the absence of any 11th Houring somewhat disturbing. Y's vote in 283 sets off minor pings. Katy looked real bad but the way she's been posting lately has me thinking she's town.
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Towny: Katy, CDB.
Scummy: Y, Twito, Jack.
Coron needs to post a lot more. Something akin to actual thoughts. AniX needs to get off his lazy ass and make us all blanch in fear of Scully and The 11th Hour. I'd like some more detailed stuff from dragyn and milkman.
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More proof that we should definitely be lynching Jack, with this great "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" argument.Jack wrote:I don't like Zindaras defense of angus. It looks like either defending scum buddy or "see guys I told you he was innocent".ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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You're basically saying that I'm scum regardless of Angus's alignment.Jack wrote:
No, you wouldn't be damned if you hadn't.Zindaras wrote:
More proof that we should definitely be lynching Jack, with this great "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" argument.Jack wrote:I don't like Zindaras defense of angus. It looks like either defending scum buddy or "see guys I told you he was innocent".ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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You're immediately saying it's scummy. Using logic, you could also simply state that I'm town who's defending someone he thinks is town, which is also independent of Angus's alignment.
I don't like your immediate interpretation of it being scummy.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Because we might as well wait until tomorrow. Angus should presend his role or not forget to send his role in and then it's all fixed again.
We're pretty gosh-darn far from lylo, there's no reason to speedlynch the guy.
Add to that the fact that I feel that many of the players who are voting him are scummy and the fact that I feel that if Angus really was scum there'd be a stronger counter-wagon/counter-argument, I really do feel that there are enough reasons to believe that Angus is, in fact, town.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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No, you see, I find a couple of people suspicious, they're all on Angus's lynch. I don't find Angus particularly suspicious, though he would do well to finish the list I requested.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Oh, by the way, I wanted to point out these two things as well, even though CDB's half-pointed them out:
1) Jack totally bandwagoned Angus Day 1. This is mostly for if we lynch Angus and he turns up town and I die tomorrow, but meh.
2) Jack indeed singled out Coron as a lurker. May I point out that Masterchief was also a lurker, and scum to boot?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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We shouldn't lynch Angus because he can still prove his role and we have a better lynch in Jackieboy.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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If we don't get a picture tomorrow, Angus is dead.
Simple as that.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I see that you're still using crap logic. It'd be a 1-2 mislynch if I'd actually support the Anguslynch, which I don't.Jack wrote:
1-2 mislynchZindaras wrote:Oh, by the way, I wanted to point out these two things as well, even though CDB's half-pointed them out:
1) Jack totally bandwagoned Angus Day 1. This is mostly for if we lynch Angus and he turns up town and I die tomorrow, but meh.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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I'm saying you should be lynched regardless of whatever Angus's alignment is. I'm simply adding it as another argument.Jack wrote:
You said if angus is lynched and town then I should be lynched. That would be a 1-2 mislynch, even if you only support the "2".Zindaras wrote:
I see that you're still using crap logic. It'd be a 1-2 mislynch if I'd actually support the Anguslynch, which I don't.Jack wrote:
1-2 mislynchZindaras wrote:Oh, by the way, I wanted to point out these two things as well, even though CDB's half-pointed them out:
1) Jack totally bandwagoned Angus Day 1. This is mostly for if we lynch Angus and he turns up town and I die tomorrow, but meh.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
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Jack, one disclaimer, if you come up town, I will indeed be looking heavily at the people you suspected, and also a bit at a couple of others.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed-
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You are at lynch-2, if I'm reading the vote count correctly.
There was no Mafia kill, remember?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
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Katykatykatykatykaty.
Who do you think is scum, besides Angus?ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed-
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Jack, I think it'd be a good idea if you claimed. We're a bit too close to deadline to take risks.ShowFinished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
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Zindaras Mr(s) Popularity
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