Royal Family Mafia - Game Over!

[IH]

Gone til Sunday....

[Maz Medias]

I don't like letting claims go uncontested, and I do have issues with his claim as already laid out. I also don't find the lack of counterclaim convincing, I'm not sure I would counterclaim if I was the real cop in this scenario.

I'm just as happy to lynch IH though. I'll have to look into some things before changing my vote back.

The play here is to give him a temporary pass. If he continuously gives up innocents or dead people, we'll eventually lynch him. The real cop should definitely stay hidden (if canuck is lying) because Canuck is so scummy. Lynching Canuck as mafia right now wouldn't help us any more than lynching him Day 3/4 would, because the mafia operates as a group, and their numbers are irrelevant until the late-game.

Basically, immediacy in his death is not necessary.

[Jack]

The play here is to give him a temporary pass. If he continuously gives up innocents or dead people, we'll eventually lynch him. The real cop should definitely stay hidden (if canuck is lying) because Canuck is so scummy. Lynching Canuck as mafia right now wouldn't help us any more than lynching him Day 3/4 would, because the mafia operates as a group, and their numbers are irrelevant until the late-game.

Basically, immediacy in his death is not necessary.

That's a good point.

Unvote, Vote:IH

[Maz Medias]

Yes, yes. Back away from the noose; we need room for you.

[TheEyeOfMordor]

I am back now people.

[Cardinal Ibelly]

The Official “Great Googly Moogly!” Vote Count!

Twito – 4 – the silent speaker, Thok, Mariyta, Arafax
Bogre – 3 – LuckayLuck, Twito, PookyTheMagicalBear
IH – 3 – Ether, Zindaras, Jack

Canucklehead17 - 2 - Fritzler, Cogito Ergo Sum
Jack – 2 – IH, Maz Medias
LuckayLuck – 2 – HackerHuck, TheEyeofMordor

HackerHuck – 1 – Mastermind of Sin
the silent speaker – 1 – VitaminR

With

22

alive, it takes

12

to lynch!

Not Voting – 4 – Bogre, Canucklehead17, Nightson, Save the Dragons

Those who have not posted in 10 days are being prodded. This includes Nightson and PookyTheMagicalBear. Note that Cogito Ergo Sum and VitaminR will have limited access.

[Thok]

Blah, I've been putting this game on a backburner.

Is there a point to the Bogre wagon other than "LL says so"?

Is there a point to the IH wagon?

[Mariyta]

Seeing who is on the Bogre wagon, I'm not concerned about it right now. I'm happy w/ my Twito vote.

[Maz Medias]

Twito/Jack are both good to me today.

[Canucklehead17]

Aye, I'm ready to throw my vote in for Twito.

Vote Twito

[Ether]

Ether sighs dramatically and gives Thok a smack with her microphone.

Gah! I have said this all before
Just look some pages back
Much logic, IH did ignore
To fling a crap attack!
He then went further on his limb
Instead of backing down!
How could y'all not have noticed him?
IH just isn't town!
I'm getting awful déjà-vu
I'd so love to proceed
I know a lynch needs more of you:
Can't more of you just

read

?

That last bit is what gets me. I'm willing to vote Twito if his wagon appears to be the best real possibility--his Luckay shenanigans don't amuse me, either--but it'd be nice if all y'all would

acknowledge

pages 19 and 20 at some point before the deadline.

[Jack]

Blah, I've been putting this game on a backburner.

Is there a point to the Bogre wagon other than "LL says so"?

Is there a point to the IH wagon?

Is there a point to the twito wagon?

[Zindaras]

Remember: the woman is always right. Listen to Ether, people. Vote IH.

For great justice.

[TheEyeOfMordor]

Still utterly confused with this game.

[Mariyta]

That last bit is what gets me. I'm willing to vote Twito if his wagon appears to be the best real possibility--his Luckay shenanigans don't amuse me, either--but it'd be nice if all y'all would

acknowledge

pages 19 and 20 at some point before the deadline.

/acknowledged

[Maz Medias]

Ether: I don't see it.

I see IH saying it's suspicious for people to ask for top-suspect lists because of potential bandwagonning, which is true. Pooky's question was similar, but narrower, and without as much "I'm actually being serious"ness to it. I think IH's observation is legitimate but misinterpreted.

[Canucklehead17]

Ether, I'm sorry, I need a bit of help seeing it as well.

Blah, I've been putting this game on a backburner.

Is there a point to the Bogre wagon other than "LL says so"?

Is there a point to the IH wagon?

Is there a point to the twito wagon?

The Bogre wagon: Nothing other than LL says so.

The IH wagon: Not 100% sure

The Twito wagon: I'm on this wagon for two main reasons. First, Twito stated early on in the game that LL needed to die. But then, several pages later, Twito states that he is going to do whatever LL does. So you have the

complete

turnaround. Secondly, and I guess this is tied in with the first reason, Twito is blindly following LL without giving any reasons as to why he's doing it.

I'm quite content with the Twito wagon.

[IH]

She's saying that I was being a hypocrite. I answered Pooky's question, but condemned others for asking something almost kinda liked it.

Pooky, of course, asked who would you lynch if you were king.
Hackerhuck asked, why doesn't everyone give their top 2 or 3 suspicions.

The DIFFERENCE being, Pooky's question wasn't going to everyone, only the TWMOTW. HH's was going to everyone. Not only that, Pooky's was "If you could and had to" HH's was a little broader of a spectrum "who's the most suspicious to you"

With one candidate it'd be harder to know who to unite against.

With 2 to 3 candidates it'd be easier to know who to go after.

[Maz Medias]

Needs more Jack dying for trying to lynch a claimed cop.

[Ether]

Ether raises her microphone at TheEye threateningly.

I read Huck's alternative as an example, considering how he disparaged the alliance idea. Even if it wasn't? People

are

gonna post their suspicions, and they

should

, and they're filthy lurkers if they

don't

. I still view your statement as a hypocritical excuse to launch an attack.

Not only that, Hackerhuck and Jack both refused to answer the questions, but supported everyone listing who their top 2 suspects were.

I'm not sure what the first part is supposed to mean, unless you were concerned by their failure to join TWMotW. I

am

sure that that statement drastically misrepresented Jack's statements in order to OMGUS him.

What Jack had said so far was:

Well...we could just, you know,

VOTE

for people.

This is ridiculous. People's popular opinion is evident from the votes and posts so far, and from pookies list which you don't seem to have any objections to. You've been mixing it up like this all game, it's possible you're looking for scum but it seems to me you're scum trying to muddle things up.

There is no evidence of him supporting Huck's idea.

Explain.

[Mariyta]

What was Huck's idea? Listing 2-3 suspects?

[IH]

If I said anything about Jack and this, it would only be because he had supported HackerHuck's idea.
I did not "misrepresent Jack to Omgus him".

You consider the question of "who would you lynch, right now, if the decision were yours and yours alone?" a time waster?

Well...we could just, you know,

VOTE

for people.

QFT


I really don't see how this will accomplish consensus and save us time. If everyone provided a list of their top two/three scum, that might narrow it down to a few suspects that most people have on their list, rather than the broad group we'll get if everyone just puts out one name.

Besides, who wants to join the group if you're going to let the scum join too?

My top two are LL and CES.

Here is Hackerhuck's proposal. He wants people to list their suspicions to reach a consensus and lynch, does he not? A narrower group to choose people from that most people would have, and taking the king question as that.

He's not trying to get a handle on people's views IMO
he's trying to get a lynching wagon going.

Despite that, my vote is staying on Jack, as I believe he is the play for today. If you wish, I will go through the thread, and try to present more of a case on him, other than "lynching a claimed and uncontested cop", as Jack's defense is "We have a court jester as scum, court courier probably is too".

That's how I understand it anyway.

[Ether]

Tomorrow's New Years party will be awesome
Even though I am Jewish
Wait, that was Christmas
And it

is

tomorrow
I am slightly drunk
(Not very, but it's 1 in the morning)
Rhymes are for wimps and sober people
It's not like you're checking this stanza
It's not like you care whether this rhymes
It's not like I've

always

loved you, man!
(hiccup)

Happy New Year, yo.

Actually, I read Huck's post as, "This idea is stupid. Here are some improvements." Personally, I agree that the alliance was only good for the discussion it sparked. The suspicions list is superfluous; I fail to see what opportunity the suspicions list gives that reading a few posts by different people wouldn't.

He's not trying to get a handle on people's views IMO

A convenient breeze through other's posts, and your suspicion changes.

Your attack has changed.

he's trying to get a lynching wagon going.

Guys

this game is going to last a long time

plus its 12 people to lynch.

so we obviously need some unity in order to get anything done.

Your attack is hypocritical.

If I said anything about Jack and this, it would only be because he had supported HackerHuck's idea.

Where?

[the silent speaker]

I think IH and the people attacking him on pages 19-20 were both keying on legitimate apparent inconsistencies. But those look to me to be only apparent inconsistencies, dispelled by close readings, across the board, and I don't think any of them are shown to be anti-town by it.

Pooky's question wasn't going to everyone, only the TWMOTW. HH's was going to everyone.

This I disagree with. Pooky's question was going to everyone just as much as Hacker's, just with some flavor attached.

With one candidate it'd be harder to know who to unite against.

... What do you think the town is trying to do Day 1?

[IH]

Of course they're trying to reach a consensus, but not just for... well the sake of agreeing, correct, or am I missing something?