Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)

[Nachomamma8]

Not to mention that doesn't even come close to resembling an answer. I'm asking why you're posturing when you aren't going to vote me, and you answer because I'm scum or bad town but not usually bad town? How the hell does that even make sense in the first place?

pedit: Now explain why you are obvious town.

SE-Asians (L-4): I Am Innocent, Human Destroyer, kuror0
Nachomamma8 (L-6): pirate mollie
Wisdom (L-4): borkjerfkin, Fate, Nachomamma8
Fate (L-3): mantisdreamz, Remembrance, SE-Asians, Wisdom

Not Voting: RachMarie, buldermar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST

[Nachomamma8]

hey kuror0, want to help me lynch scum?

[kuror0]

Mmm I'm not liking the trend to threat to lynch Nacho despite his N1 PR claim. With Wisdom I think it is the 3rd person to do so. Right now I have Nacho as leaning town but more important is that I really dislike the idea behind that threat.

Seems like you want to lynch him for no good reason. You are just supporting the idea but not voting because you don't have a reason to call him scum, so you are just waiting for someone else to vote him to join the wagon which is quite a poor play.

[Remembrance]

^ Mollie already voted him.

I have completed my Iso of Wisdom. I remain unconvinced.

[kuror0]

For starters, you're voting me.

If this is the reason to accuse someone of being scum, why you are not also threatening the others that had voted you? Also please tell me the others reasons of why you think Nacho is scum.

[Wisdom]

This is not the reason I am accusing him of being scum. He asked what is wrong with his play, I had to tell him.

[Remembrance]

@IaI, so are you lurking or what?

[kuror0]

^ Mollie already voted him.

Didn't noticed about it. Still it was there before Mantis and Wisdom said they wanted to lynch Nacho. If anyone find X player scummy then make your case against him and try to push for a lynch on him there are few days left and people should start making their minds.

[kuror0]

This is not the reason I am accusing him of being scum. He asked what is wrong with his play, I had to tell him.

Ok, then please show me the reasons why you believe he is scum.

[Nachomamma8]

^ Mollie already voted him.

I have completed my Iso of Wisdom. I remain unconvinced.

What convinces you about the ISO of Fate?

[Nachomamma8]

This is not the reason I am accusing him of being scum. He asked what is wrong with his play, I had to tell him.

The only thing you've found wrong with my play is that I'm voting you. That means I'm playing pretty fucking well. Meanwhile, I see you are voting lurkers for absolutely no reason at all, spreading shitty paranoia about me even though you have no good reason to, ignoring me when my questions get too uncomfortable for you, he's chainsawing SE-Asians even though you find them scum, and refusing to fake a reason for finding me scum because you know you're unable to push it through today. I backed off earlier to give you more of a chance because I thought I might be in a tunnel mood, but this is the scummiest play I've seen in a while.

[Nachomamma8]

This is not the reason I am accusing him of being scum. He asked what is wrong with his play, I had to tell him.

Ok, then please show me the reasons why you believe he is scum.

Why are you voting Asians over Wisdom right now?

[Nachomamma8]

^ Mollie already voted him.

I have completed my Iso of Wisdom. I remain unconvinced.

What convinces you about the ISO of Fate?

and while you're at it, tell me what you saw in Wisdom's ISO.

[Wisdom]

Ok, then please show me the reasons why you believe he is scum.

The first vote on me was nonsensical and opportunistic. His "case", if there was any, was terrible and felt contrived; all it had was dislike for my playstyle this game (my voting-unvoting pattern) and meta. I shot down everything he accused me of, and he unvoted - I thought he understood he was being dumb but no, now that we're approaching the deadline he suddenly finds another weak reason and votes me again.

And honestly, if you look at his ISO the only thing Nacho has done in this game is the plan (which he didn't follow because he supported another plan), and finding someone to push (myself). He also unvoted Fate despite his previous push on Bacde, and this was never explained; and after that he stopped caring about Fate.

And now he acts like he's tunneled town on me when he knows full well that I am not scum.

[kuror0]

Why are you voting Asians over Wisdom right now?

I had wisdom as strong town in my reads, since I posted my list my read on him has changed a lot yet not enough to make him my first scum candidate. So my vote remains on what I think it is the best lynch for today.

[Remembrance]

Fate has demonstrated little motivation to do anything in this game. His meta demonstrates that he does better under pressure, but that does not appear to be the case. He has had plenty of time to go through everything and has not. He is coasting, by the very definition of the word.

Not much, but there you go. It's scummy, text book.

Next question in a sec.

[Nachomamma8]

Fate has demonstrated little motivation to do anything in this game. His meta demonstrates that he does better under pressure, but that does not appear to be the case. He has had plenty of time to go through everything and has not. He is coasting, by the very definition of the word.

Not much, but there you go. It's scummy, text book.

You're right in that it doesn't mean much in regards to his alignment. AngelusW followed that description to a T, but now we learn that slot is probably town. Policy lynching a lurker on D1 is stupid unless you have strong townreads everywhere else, which you clearly do not.

[Nachomamma8]

The first vote on me was nonsensical and opportunistic. His "case", if there was any, was terrible and felt contrived; all it had was dislike for my playstyle this game (my voting-unvoting pattern) and meta. I shot down everything he accused me of, and he unvoted - I thought he understood he was being dumb but no, now that we're approaching the deadline he suddenly finds another weak reason and votes me again.

Wow this sounds like you're suspecting me for voting you for weak reasons, just like I suspected you for voting for weak reasons. Really bang-up case this is!

[Wisdom]

Yeah, as if my votes on various people in attempts to read them can be compared to your tunneling on me.

[Nachomamma8]

Yeah, as if my votes on various people in attempts to read them can be compared to your tunneling on me.

OH BECAUSE MY REASONS FOR DISLIKING YOUR VOTES WERE BETTER

[Remembrance]

I saw a person questioning literally everyone. With a townie confidence, that scum tend not to have. His posts are starting to segue up to how I would respond if being voted by Nacho as town, with 200+ posts behind me(of course, I'm an idiot to respond that way, but that is how I'd respond if I was voted by Nacho, though not quite so openly).

I only have Bulder as a super strong mega town read.. Fate, Unlike Angelus (who I only ever saw show up twice in the lobby) has proven he is able to post. So, there's a difference.

@Nacho and Wisdom, what do you think of IaI's recent post?

[Wisdom]

Literally all Nacho has done this game is

-Hi, x,y are town
-Bacde is scum, I won't tell you why
-Hey I found a great plan, who agrees?
-Oh bulder's plan is better, forget my plan.
-Bacde? Who is Bacde? Let's lynch Wisdom.

[Wisdom]

Now if that isn't scum-Nacho looking for a mislynch I'll be damned.

[Wisdom]

And in fact I don't care about his claim.
VOTE: Nacho

[Wisdom]

@Nacho and Wisdom, what do you think of IaI's recent post?

If you mean 1277 I don't find anything particularly telling about it. I read IaI as town now anyway.