Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)

[I Am Innocent]

Do you realise we just claim PR? What cops are you talking about?

I mean I like Nacho's original suggestion.

My thoughts are as follows:

Cops investigate, and then claim next day. No discussion about that.

Docs have two jobs, try to successfully protect, and stay silent. Why stay silent, because I'd rather have a N2 Doc get killed N3 than a N3 or N4 or N5 cop. And if a N2 Doc outs himself D2, that ain't gonna happen.

Going forward, Docs don't claim.

SE-Asians (L-4): I Am Innocent, Human Destroyer, kuror0
buldermar (L-6): SE-Asians
borkjerfkin (L-6): pirate mollie
Wisdom (L-3): Nachomamma8, buldermar, borkjerfkin, Fate
Fate (L-4): mantisdreamz, Remembrance, Wisdom

Not Voting: AngelusW

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST

[Wisdom]

Why do you like that better than the one we're doing?

[borkjerfkin]

No one's outing themselves as a Doc. They're outing themselves as a PR.

[kuror0]

Do you realise we just claim PR? What cops are you talking about?

I mean I like Nacho's original suggestion.

My thoughts are as follows:

Cops investigate, and then claim next day. No discussion about that.

Docs have two jobs, try to successfully protect, and stay silent. Why stay silent, because I'd rather have a N2 Doc get killed N3 than a N3 or N4 or N5 cop. And if a N2 Doc outs himself D2, that ain't gonna happen.

Going forward, Docs don't claim.

That was my suggestion.

That was ages ago and we already "agreed" on a way to do it. At least for today.

[Nachomamma8]

What do you think of switching to my plan on day 3, IaI?

[I Am Innocent]

I'll be frank. I think Se-Asian's is mislynch bait. Everyone is okay with voting him and I am tempted to as well. But that means scum are okay with his lynch too. EVERYONE is okay with Se. Ergo, scum are okay with his lynch. Scum do not play that way because it's intentionally suspicious, the arguing about and wanting to have the Doc's claim was not something scum would do because it's idiotic and suspicious to do so. Yes, I am going for the "too incompetent to be scum" argument. Why vote Buldermar? Why discuss it amongst the hydras if he wasn't town. Ultimately, he will probably be lynched anyway, I will follow tomorrow if he flips scum. But them's the breaks of having an opinion.

If everyone is okay with voting him, why is he still alive? I'll bet those "okay with voting him", but not, are probably his teammates looking for cred/chance to bus later if need be.

PS - from your post above "Everyone is okay with voting him

and I am tempted to as well

"

[Fate]

How so?

Did I elaborate on any of my votes so far?

Why did you pick that specific vote to call suspicious when I've voted the same way all game?

No, I see no reason to speculate why others are voting Fate. I voted Fate because his SE-Asians vote was terrible.

He admitted to not even having read the thread. I voted Asians initially for assumably the exact same reason that Fate did and you consider me town atm. Why do you think specifically Fate should instantly realize the things that the rest of us (at the very least me) took longer to realize? This looks like a bullshit excuse to place a vote.

If I unvoted you later what makes you think I won't unvote Fate later?

Aka page 39

[Remembrance]

Because he gave up and it pisses me off. That is the only reason I am tempted to.

[I Am Innocent]

No one's outing themselves as a Doc. They're outing themselves as a PR.

So D2, what happens. Cops will say who they investigate, and by process of elimination that leaves who???? Docs maybe????

What do you think of switching to my plan on day 3, IaI?

I think we switch to it D2 personally. N1 Cops out their investigations D2, N1 docs will be outted due to process of elimination, damage done. But going forward, we still keep the pot as big as we can in my opinion by keeping N2+ Docs quiet.

[I Am Innocent]

Because he gave up and it pisses me off. That is the only reason I am tempted to.

I would never vote a town read of mine who gave up. I would push them to replace out.

Maybe my blinders are too tight, but I could see scum Remembrance getting ticked off at Scum Asians for giving up...

[Remembrance]

Counter points:

Not just you, anyone who might be townreading Nacho.
Just a feeling.

Posted the most, momentum always turns against them eventually.

[Nachomamma8]

I think we switch to it D2 personally. N1 Cops out their investigations D2, N1 docs will be outted due to process of elimination, damage done. But going forward, we still keep the pot as big as we can in my opinion by keeping N2+ Docs quiet.

I think that during D1 and D2 there are enough players alive where the risk isn't that difficult for scum to figure out. D3 is when things get interesting and keeping the pool small is suddenly more important.

[Nachomamma8]

Counter points:

Not just you, anyone who might be townreading Nacho.
Just a feeling.

Posted the most, momentum always turns against them eventually.

This isn't true.

[kuror0]

Because he gave up and it pisses me off. That is the only reason I am tempted to.

Your first post doesn't reflect why you were tempted to. If that's really your only reason try to be more clear next time because at least, I perceived it as a lot of flip floping.

[Remembrance]

It's true for me

[borkjerfkin]

So D2, what happens. Cops will say who they investigate, and by process of elimination that leaves who???? Docs maybe????

That's fine, I see your point, but I mean ANY plan we come up with works better if more of the cops are early than the docs. That's simply the way this setup goes.

[borkjerfkin]

More accurately it works better if lots of PRs collide on the same day. I think that's more true than what I initially said.

[Nachomamma8]

More accurately it works better if lots of PRs collide on the same day. I think that's more true than what I initially said.

My plan works better when they don't collide, buldermar's plan works better when they do.

[Remembrance]

Because he gave up and it pisses me off. That is the only reason I am tempted to.

I would never vote a town read of mine who gave up.

I would push them to replace out.

Maybe my blinders are too tight, but I could see scum Remembrance getting ticked off at Scum Asians for giving up...

Notice I am not voting him. and I have infact, advocated for him. I don't vote town reads.

@Bork, why do you have a town read on fate.

[Fate]

I was hoping that 40 pages in you fucks would have this whole set-up theory discussion shit worked out and we could be hunting for scum

[Nachomamma8]

I was hoping that 40 pages in you fucks would have this whole set-up theory discussion shit worked out and we could be hunting for scum

it's mostly worked out

[Human Destroyer]

Your "scum tell" of Wisdom defending his scumreads is anulled by his meta

I've caught the scumteam now SHEEP ME FOOLS

[Wisdom]

HD, I am thinking IAI might be town now. His last posts looked good.

[Human Destroyer]

Well if I'm reading his posts correctly he's going to bus the shit out of his scumbuddies, so he can stay alive for now

[Wisdom]

Also quite sure that one of Nacho or Fate is scum. Or both.
Never understood why Nacho unvoted so easily after his push on Bacde either.