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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:22 pm

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In post 190, Remembrance wrote:I did explain my slight-town read on SE-Asians.

Basically, when he pressures you and is serious, you can't help but laugh. Lincolm said he felt it was funny when he pressures people (laughter is a danger response, to show you're not worried about a bad thing happening to you),
I'm town
, and I felt it was humorous too, but scum tend to be more serious when accused.


underlined part is not needed, feels forced that it was added.

In post 191, Remembrance wrote:Nope, I was stuck on the page you asked all those questions on, then I read the scum slip, which I'm wondering about.


Wondering if it is time to bus?

In post 192, SE-Asians wrote:Nah sorry. I like to fake claim. My role in N5 so I like to survive. It doesn't matter.


VT to IC to N5 claim. Needs to die with fire.....TODAY!

In post 200, Remembrance wrote:You agree that you're scum, or that you know he likes to fake claim?

SE-Asians: Which one of your hydra heads, likes to not throw in the towel at l-2. Don't like this roll over stuff. :neutral:


Yeah liking a Remebrance/SE Asian team more and more

In post 207, Remembrance wrote:@Lincolm is this your first time in a diffusion game?


Trying to give a scumbuddy an alibi?

In post 208, borkjerfkin wrote:oh cool i don't have to pretend to care today

VOTE: Se-asians


Now Human, this is a bus vote right here! Out of nowhere, pops in and puts his buddy at L-1.

In post 213, Wisdom wrote:SE-Asians is NOT scum, and that wasn't a scumslip. Everyone should unvote him instantly.


???? Can't wait to hear this.

In post 214, Remembrance wrote:UNVOTE: SE-Asians


Cold feet? Why the unvote, Mollie just took him off L-1???

In post 216, Wisdom wrote:There's scum in {Bacde, IaI and bork}. Definetely.
HD's push, although wrong, is townish.
mollie and Remembrance probtown.

Lincolm's VT claim was not serious. Why would anyone claim at that point? It was his way of showing his frustration regarding the argument with HD. It is not a scumslip and whoever continues to push this is scum trying to exploit the fact that Lincolm's language barrier makes him look scummier than he is.


yeah your not a very good player are you?

In post 220, Wisdom wrote:No it doesn't look like a slip. It IS obviously a sarcastic way to show his frustration.


Not how I read it either... (Bacde's 225 is exactly how I feel too)

In post 227, Remembrance wrote:VOTE: Wisdom I think he did actually scum slip.

I just checked the only scum QT I've ever joined and there was no set up information in the quick topic. Furthermore, when I got my role Pm, there was no information on the set up. He's probably just trying to look town.


So it is a scum slip and yet you vote someone else. Can we lynch this with fire today too? Please mod????

(And yeah, I read your next post, I still am not buying it)

HD is town by the way.

Bacde is town too.



Yes

In post 240, Human Destroyer wrote:This is literally "Lynch SE-Asians and Remembrance in any order" now.

TAKE YOUR PICK FOLKS


Speak it brother!!!

In post 241, Wisdom wrote:That's acceptable; if you wanna argue that he's scum for other reasons I am willing to listen. But the claim wasn't a slip.


My greatest fear is that you're town. (Well actually it is that my penis will fall off, but this is a close second)

In post 244, Wisdom wrote:Don't make me vote you.
Remembrance is town.


srsly, if you end up being town, i will commission the scummies to add a worst townie award.

Next 5 pages coming...

Vote Count:

SE-Asians (L-4): I Am Innocent, Bacde, Human Destroyer
buldermar (L-6): SE-Asians
borkjerfkin (L-6): pirate mollie
Bacde (L-6): Nachomamma8

Not Voting: Remembrance, mantisdreamz, AngelusW, kuror0, borkjerfkin, buldermar, Wisdom

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:26 pm

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Yeah, and those who mistake sarcasm and frustration for scumslips will certainly win said award.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:42 pm

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Shh Wis.

I want to wait for him to finish.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:47 pm

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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:48 pm

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Wait, I have no time for this.

Let me just say this shortly IaI. Not, good. Misinterpreted me and who I was talking to twice. I have an infatuation with calling myself town as town. Wis did not notice. But in the scum game. I never mentioned I was town.

Literally, skipped over my corrections.
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:52 pm

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In post 290, borkjerfkin wrote:UNVOTE:


Why did you unvote here?

In post 296, buldermar wrote:
In post 167, Human Destroyer wrote:
In post 159, SE-Asians wrote:Here, you will like my claim. VT. You can easily mislynch me.


This is an open setup with no Vanilla Townies.

10/10

VOTE: SE-Asians


In post 297, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: buldermar


Are you friggin kidding me? Well at least one good thing came out of your poor play, ur obv town. No scum would be this blatant.

In post 298, SE-Asians wrote:
Oh god... Why I know you Wis... Why I know you also Mollie... I wish both of you're scum together so I get lynched in that time.

Town don't know who is town and who is scum. Even I help, that isn't going to be a "help" because of their mindset.

Rem, Mollie, and Wisdom are town like a fuck. If they are scum, they wouldn't attempt to starting other discussion.

Well, in this condition scum have 1 free mislynch, but I think Bork's reaction is neutral reaction that can be alignment as town or scum.

Nacho in V/LA for 2 days. I still remember he posted it in Amurika.
Kuroro have activity like this because I'm in one game with him.

Reporting in, over.


Not one scum read, nice. Lynch with FIRE!!!

In post 303, buldermar wrote:
In post 208, borkjerfkin wrote:oh cool i don't have to pretend to care today

VOTE: Se-asians

^^ town


Don't be so sure.

Bulder is town too. 5 town down, 5 to go. this one's easy.

In post 320, Wisdom wrote:Hey Sora. Are you scum?


What the....??? We should really hydra together some time so i can help u with ur game...

In post 323, buldermar wrote:
In post 298, SE-Asians wrote:Rem, Mollie, and Wisdom are town like a fuck. If they are scum, they wouldn't attempt to starting other discussion.

I think this could be important if SE-Asians somehow magically flips town.


Yep, see Rem.

In post 333, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 329, buldermar wrote:
In post 318, Wisdom wrote:Because he didn't know it will be Diffusion?

In that case he could just replace out.


yeah we're past this but thanks


Great, whose scum then?

In post 335, buldermar wrote:Can you link me to a game of his in which he does something as retarded? That could make me change my mind.


Sigworthy



gung ho on helping out this slot, aren't u???

In post 344, Wisdom wrote:
You are now speculating to justify things. No, Lincolm is not the kind not to read a pm or not to read QTs. Except if you have examples showing he doesn't usually read pms or qts.


taking back my town read on u

In post 349, SE-Asians wrote:Ok what dafuq happened...

Uhm... Erm... Sorry for that outburst guys, I didn't even...

Anyways...

Is it just me or is bul sheeping HD to lynch us?
Not liking that at all.

Remembrance... I'm just not feeling this guy's town play yet.
Call it gut or meta or whatever you want but anyways...

Wisdom I'm not too keen on reading... But I'd say null-town for now

HD is totally town because gut feeling and town vibes (Totally not relieving pressure off by calling you town :shifty: )
Or I could be wrong... Maybe scum trying to take advantage of our frustrations.

Everyone else needs to post more.

Again... Sorry for that outburst.

-Philippines


WHERE ARE THE SCUM READS?!?!?!

In post 356, Wisdom wrote:tne, you're currently voting HD. Do you agree with the vote, or do you wanna vote someone else?


coaching a teammate to start another wagon, any wagon?

In post 358, Wisdom wrote:Except that's how tne is as town too.


getting worse...

In post 365, SE-Asians wrote:Wait there's a vote on HD?

No no no.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: buldermar

Call it wrong or something but there's something that strikes me as odd about joining the wagon
-Phil


BURN BABY BURN!!! (joined wisdom on the only other wagon....)

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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:54 pm

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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:04 pm

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Damn I am late. .__.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:05 pm

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Never too late.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:23 pm

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In post 757, AngelusW wrote:Damn I am late. .__.


Shhh, no one has noticed yet. :wink:
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:25 pm

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@EVERYONE/MOD/HYDRA PARTNERS: I will be V/LA for the next two days or so, not being able to post, but being able to read, so I *think* I may not be too far behind when I get access again.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:17 pm

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In post 748, Remembrance wrote:Noticed something.

In post 677, buldermar wrote:Actually I take that back - that's exploitable.


TBH, this makes Buldermar town forever. Unless it was faked, but that would be scary.

So I'm moving Buldermar into, "probably town" a place, where in lylo, I would just vote the other guy without thinking too hard.I contributed.

Removing Buldermar from my reads list. But it's more tentative than the last time I did it.

Back to doing stuff.


why are you thinking that you are going to be in lylo

it is like you are not thinking that you will ever be nked
whew!
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:20 pm

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Hi. Back short post. Still busy.

1. I am talking of an hypothetical instance. I have never made it to lylo.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:21 pm

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You have.
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:22 pm

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I was just thinking that!
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:22 pm

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As town.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:23 pm

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but not as scum?
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:24 pm

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I figured.
That might actually be a town sign. You were thinking of your town games, possibly because you are town.

Then again, it might be a trick. Last time I believed you townslipped I was wrong.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:25 pm

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Nah, it's legit this time. :D
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:49 pm

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In post 705, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 674, buldermar wrote:I have a suggestion.

Each day, the people that have action the following night outs themselves. However, they do not say if they are cop or doctor.

When there is just 1 who outs himself, that just sucks. This is what could have been avoided exactly half of the time with a strategy in which either the doctor or the cop outs himself before the other, but that strategy suffers from scum knowing who is the doc and who is the cop.

When there is 2 outing themselves, it leaves three possible permutations: {COP COP} {COP DOC} {DOC DOC}. As a strategy for this, any doctor protects the other person either always or some high percentage of the time (we can look into which number is optimal). If scum hits one of the two outed people and the these people always protect the other person when one or both is a doc, it results in:
50% failure (every time the person they don't hit is doc). In this case, the surviving person is cop about 50% of the time and doc about 50% of the time.
25% succes hitting a doc. In this case, the surviving person is a cop and will get a succesful investigation off.
25% succes hitting a cop. In this case, the surviving person is a cop and will get a succesful investigation off.

Then you just tweak the numbers so that the doctors are protecting any random person an appropriate percentage of the time. This has to be adjust according to how many later night 1-shot cop/doc's are left in the game.

it gets uglier with more than 2 claims, i think, although it definitely handles the two cops and a doctor situation a little better
I don't know whether it's best to stay on just two claims or allowing for additional ones.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:51 pm

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In post 708, Nachomamma8 wrote:N1 PR here too as well.
in your next post, please say if you're NOT an N1 PR as well to speed up the process
I'm not.
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:52 pm

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In post 715, borkjerfkin wrote:Pretty much willing to say Remembrance is town for being 3rd N1 guy up in here. Doesn't seem like something scum would do.
Could you elaborate on this? I don't think I follow.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:52 pm

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In post 719, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 718, Bacde wrote:I now accept Borkjerfkin as town

welcome to my reads


yeah

what do you think of nacho
I'm not sure he would begin the whole "let's break this setup" discussion had he been scum.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:53 pm

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In post 722, Bacde wrote:actually, I don't think its likely that scum-nacho would suggest us to coordinate our night actions
This is exactly my thought.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:16 pm

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In post 751, Wisdom wrote:Yeah, and those who mistake sarcasm and frustration for scumslips will certainly win said award.

I've been there. I was in a game in which I got mislynched over jokingly having said "You're welcome, mollie" after a night in which no night kill's happened. It was mistakingly assumed that I was trying to get the real doctor to counter-out. I was just making a joke.
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