Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)


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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:18 am

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Won't scum have to use their brains even if we do nothing?

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With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:23 am

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Can you clarify what you mean by nothing? There are multiple ways to interpret that.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:24 am

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I'm saying that they'll need to use their brains whether we use the plan or not.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:25 am

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In post 599, Remembrance wrote:Going to say why I support the idea: Because it sounds like fun and we get to fuck with the scum. they'll have to use their brains. and I like the mix up. Those who support it: Why?
Those who don't support it:
Why?


I support it because it protects our most important asset: early night cops. That's pretty much it.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:25 am

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If I were scum right now, I'd be running on auto-pilot.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:34 am

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Say x claims N1 cop.
Scum will have to consider killing x. If there are N1 doctors, they will risk their kill failing. If there aren't, the cop will die.

Now if x never claimed, scum will have to kill someone at random, who will most likely not be x. Which means x will investigate without problems.

Point being, early cops might be better protected without claiming.

This plan might work best later, with less people alive. Now there are 13 people alive, meaning 9/10 possible targets for scum (depending on the lynch), so I don't get why we should tell scum who the cop is when they just have 1/9 or 1/10 chance to get it right.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:11 pm

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Well just have doctors claim before cops

If no doctors claim don't have the cops claim
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:16 pm

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In that case, a N1 doctor might claim, but there might not be N1 cops. Meaning free kill for scum N1 who otherwise could have targetted someone that the unclaimed N1 doctor protected and thus fail.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:19 pm

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I actually don't think that's a huge deal.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:21 pm

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Doctors can be WIFOMed (no kills and such)

Cops can't

Also forces scum to lock into a claim and deal with it

I think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:22 pm

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Yeah the most important thing is to get our cops to get their investigations and live to tell the tale
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:23 pm

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Anyway if we are to do one of those I prefer the one that doctors go first.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:55 pm

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I think the best thing we can't do is only make the cops claim, so all the available docs for that night if any, will know who to protect but scum will be in the dark if there is any doc for that night or not so they have to take even higher risks.
Too lazy to be scum.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:13 pm

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In post 606, Human Destroyer wrote:Well just have doctors claim before cops

If no doctors claim don't have the cops claim


I actually like this Idea.

Worst case scenario is...

Doc claim --> Cop claim --> Scum choose to kill someone else --> Cop investigates town --> Scum kill N2 cop.

Or

We lynch N2 cop
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:14 pm

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Oh... And scum successfully counterclaims the real cops/doctors
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:26 pm

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You guys write so quickly.

Re: Wisdom in regards to his meta

As scum, you are more passive, though you retain an attacking edge. You like to convince people that you are right, and you often get along with strong town figures.
As town, you are hellbent on lynching the person you deem scummiest.

I'll reread the plan and get back with my thoughts: at this point I think it's too random, but I have a feeling I might be wrong.

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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:28 pm

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And what happens if I'm town but not have a person "I deem scummiest" yet?
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:31 pm

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wisdom where is your vote?
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:32 pm

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On rememory.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:38 pm

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Btw, the Diffusion game that was ongoing just ended, so whoever wanted to refer to it can now do it.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:42 pm

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~20 pages to read, but by the looks of this page, someone is recommending a mass claim? Please tell me I'm missing something...

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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:55 pm

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Not really a mass claim

A day-by-day claim, so to speak
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:04 pm

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In post 621, SE-Asians wrote:Not really a mass claim

A day-by-day claim, so to speak


What post/posts is/are this plan at? Doubt I will catch all the way up tonight, but would like to see it tonight.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:06 pm

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It started in 512.
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:22 pm

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In post 137, Wisdom wrote:^bad post

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In post 130, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: Bacde


^bad post

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In post 144, Human Destroyer wrote:IAI could certainly bus you; his reasoning is weak and could work perfectly well as a quick towncred grab for your scumflip.


So my genius move is to take a 2/2/1 vote and move my partner to the front of the pack and L-4 for D1 towncred? Really????

Also Human, why no read of Bacde by 142? You have a read of me on one post, but nothing on Bacde. I thought his 129 & 131 were telling, but yet he is not in your reads, hmmmm...

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In post 176, SE-Asians wrote:My answer already answered in my previous previous previous post. Why do you ask?

Here. D6 Innocent Child. Do wish what you like.


With the VT claim, and now this, why are we up to 25 pages??? This should be lynched with fire by now?!?!?

Good place to stop.
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