Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)

[buldermar]

^bad post

Yeah I agree.

Town

Wisdom
pirate mollie

Scum

SE-Asians
Remembrance
I am Innocent


This isn't enough reads, I need morrrrrrrrre

Why is mollie town?

Vote Count:

SE-Asians (L-4): Human Destroyer, pirate mollie, I Am Innocent
Bacde (L-5): Remembrance, Wisdom
Wisdom (L-6): Bacde

Not Voting: Nachomamma8, mantisdreamz, buldermar, borkjerfkin, AngelusW, kuror0, SE-Asians

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST

[SE-Asians]

I can see why people are discussing it and your quashing of said discussion looks like you're afraid of someone meta-reading you as scum.

I do Hydra. Is this an accuse or what? You can see why people are discussing but can't see the fact I'm hydra? Why i should afraid with someone meta-reading when he read other person?

Why do you want to move Wisdom's attention away from Remembrance?

I said I want to have Wisdom's attention. When I said I want to remove Wisdom's attention? Really, why you should have attention to 1 person when you have 3 persons to deal with?

Your backoff from Wisdom is so, so, SO weak, and clearly people were getting reads out of the discussion, so it wasn't pointless and you backing off is really bad.

Dudeeeeeeee... Did you read my posts, really? Do I need to quote all of my post? Here, have some read.

A ask B why C is bad, B answered because C is bad guy, so A asked B again, but B answered the same answer again...

Go ahead. Tell me where it wasn't pointless.

IAI could certainly bus you; his reasoning is weak and could work perfectly well as a quick towncred grab for your scumflip.

Oh yeah, towncreed. When there is scumflip everyone will vote, there is no way someone gain towncreed. Your logic flawed, try again.

If you don't know my reasons for reading each person, you're being a very selective reader.

Maybe I am, because I don't see any reason why Wisdom and Mollie are town. Your read is from your side. I do see why Remembrance is town, but you said Remembrance is scum. So you accuse someone who have different read with you? Another flawed logic. Try again.

Also:

SE-Asians, why are you pushing the whole idea of "Wisdom is question-dodging" while at the same time removing your vote, relieving pressure?

Sorry for forget about this. I don't have any reason to vote him. He already proved me wrong, so? should I stay my vote in him?

[Human Destroyer]

@buldermar: I haven't read past Page 2, but are you going to contribute more than mollie's gender?

What, you don't think her gender is important?

Not to the game, no.

^bad post

Yeah I agree.

Town

Wisdom
pirate mollie

Scum

SE-Asians
Remembrance
I am Innocent


This isn't enough reads, I need morrrrrrrrre

Why is mollie town?

Page 5:

-snip-

Mollie is town for the line of questioning with SE-Asians.

-snip-

If you need specific post numbers, I'm talking about Post 109 and, more importantly, Post 115.

[SE-Asians]

If you need specific post numbers, I'm talking about Post 109 and, more importantly, Post 115.

Okay, I'm lurking for now. Enough with this shit.

[Human Destroyer]

I can see why people are discussing it and your quashing of said discussion looks like you're afraid of someone meta-reading you as scum.

I do Hydra. Is this an accuse or what? You can see why people are discussing but can't see the fact I'm hydra? Why i should afraid with someone meta-reading when he read other person?

Yes I understand you are a hydra. However, the individual members of a hydra CAN be read using meta (to an extent). And yes, that is an accusation.

Why do you want to move Wisdom's attention away from Remembrance?

I said I want to have Wisdom's attention. When I said I want to remove Wisdom's attention? Really, why you should have attention to 1 person when you have 3 persons to deal with?

I thought you said "He was paying too much attention to Remembrance, so I'm trying to move his attention to more places." Why does he need to focus on more than one person on a time? We only have 1 lynch anyways.

Your backoff from Wisdom is so, so, SO weak, and clearly people were getting reads out of the discussion, so it wasn't pointless and you backing off is really bad.

Dudeeeeeeee... Did you read my posts, really? Do I need to quote all of my post? Here, have some read.

A ask B why C is bad, B answered because C is bad guy, so A asked B again, but B answered the same answer again...

Go ahead. Tell me where it wasn't pointless.

See, but you're asking questions that there's no good answer to. You're asking "Hey, why are you asking for Remembrance's read on me?" which the correct answer is "Because I want to know his read." It's not a useful question in the first place, so it's unsurprising you'd get a slightly snarky answer.

IAI could certainly bus you; his reasoning is weak and could work perfectly well as a quick towncred grab for your scumflip.

Oh yeah, towncreed. When there is scumflip everyone will vote, there is no way someone gain towncreed. Your logic flawed, try again.

There's nothing flawed about my logic. Not everyone is going to vote for scum.

If you don't know my reasons for reading each person, you're being a very selective reader.

Maybe I am, because I don't see any reason why Wisdom and Mollie are town. Your read is from your side. I do see why Remembrance is town, but you said Remembrance is scum. So you accuse someone who have different read with you? Another flawed logic. Try again.

Well if you're going to strawman my accusation of Remembrance, that's cool too. I specifically said I found his reasons to be weak and bad. If he had good reason to townread you, I'd be okay with it.

Try reading again, this time looking for the parts where I called each of my two townreads town.

Also:

SE-Asians, why are you pushing the whole idea of "Wisdom is question-dodging" while at the same time removing your vote, relieving pressure?

Sorry for forget about this. I don't have any reason to vote him. He already proved me wrong, so? should I stay my vote in him?

If you think he's question-dodging scummily...yes.

Do you have other scumreads? If so, why aren't you voting them?

[Human Destroyer]

If you need specific post numbers, I'm talking about Post 109 and, more importantly, Post 115.

Okay, I'm lurking for now. Enough with this shit.

[buldermar]

@buldermar: I haven't read past Page 2, but are you going to contribute more than mollie's gender?

What, you don't think her gender is important?

Not to the game, no.

^bad post

Yeah I agree.

Town

Wisdom
pirate mollie

Scum

SE-Asians
Remembrance
I am Innocent


This isn't enough reads, I need morrrrrrrrre

Why is mollie town?

Page 5:

-snip-

Mollie is town for the line of questioning with SE-Asians.

-snip-

If you need specific post numbers, I'm talking about Post 109 and, more importantly, Post 115.

In my opinion her gender is of great importance to this game. I've played a lot with her, and the two posts you consider alignment-indicative are most likely null. Is there something specific about them or is it "just" your first impression?

[Human Destroyer]

I think it's townish, particularly if SE-Asians is scum, because scum-mollie would have left it hang with the bad answer and not have bothered to follow through from lack of motivation to scumhunt.

Why do you think it's null?

[buldermar]

I think it's townish, particularly if SE-Asians is scum, because scum-mollie would have left it hang with the bad answer and not have bothered to follow through from lack of motivation to scumhunt.

Why do you think it's null?

I don't think scum-mollie would have left it hang with the bad answer, as you put it...

[SE-Asians]

Yes I understand you are a hydra. However, the individual members of a hydra CAN be read using meta (to an extent). And yes, that is an accusation.

Do you know the fact that Wisdom metaing Remembrance? Good. Now, you should have better accusation. You're contradicting with your own post.

I thought you said "He was paying too much attention to Remembrance, so I'm trying to move his attention to more places." Why does he need to focus on more than one person on a time? We only have 1 lynch anyways.

"I like to have mislynch every time". Yeah, you like it.

See, but you're asking questions that there's no good answer to. You're asking "Hey, why are you asking for Remembrance's read on me?" which the correct answer is "Because I want to know his read." It's not a useful question in the first place, so it's unsurprising you'd get a slightly snarky answer.

The fact, he can answered my second question well.

Why am I interested in Remembrance's read? Because I am trying to read Remembrance.

Sorry, you aren't read all of those posts but accuse me.

There's nothing flawed about my logic. Not everyone is going to vote for scum.

Oh yes, when there is scumslip, I will not vote. Good logic. Try again.

Well if you're going to strawman my accusation of Remembrance, that's cool too. I specifically said I found his reasons to be weak and bad. If he had good reason to townread you, I'd be okay with it.

Try reading again, this time looking for the parts where I called each of my two townreads town.

So, "Your read is bad read because I tell my reason to you. My read is good read because I'm not telling my reason to you". Good accusation. Try again.

If you think he's question-dodging scummily...yes.

Pathetic... Did I already said he was too concentrate with Remembrance? I never said he question-dodging. I never said he is scummy or scum. I said he kept distance from me. Good accusation. Try again.

Do you have other scumreads? If so, why aren't you voting them?

Looking an accusation for me? Like I give a shit to your logic, scum. You want a vote? Here, have mine.

Vote : HD

Looked like an OMGUS? Should I care? Here, you will like my claim. VT. You can easily mislynch me.

I think it's townish, particularly if SE-Asians is scum, because scum-

mollie

would have left it hang with the bad answer and not have bothered to follow through from lack of motivation to scumhunt.

I don't think scum-

mollie

would have left it hang with the bad answer, as you put it...

You are proofing my word about meta.

[Bacde]

@Bacde : Give reason why Remembrance and Mollie are town.

Generally the first person to attack me when I claim scum is town

Its not a safe position to take (which means scum probably wont take it), and Remembrence pushed the idea in a townie way

pirate mollie is town for this post:

pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

How can you so sure?

cos he told me on the scumboard before the game started that he never gets nervous ever and has never lost a game as scum and I believed him

This post made me laugh out loud and feels town as fuck: she communicates her (absolutely correct) belief of me being sarcastic with a post dripping with sarcasm--the way she communicated her point is clear, intentional, and townie

[Bacde]

HD is town too

[Bacde]

^bad post

Yeah I agree.

Town

Wisdom
pirate mollie

Scum

SE-Asians
Remembrance
I am Innocent


This isn't enough reads, I need morrrrrrrrre

HD, can you explain your town read on Wisdom?

Also can you explain your scum read on SE-Asians/Remembrence?

[Human Destroyer]

Yes I understand you are a hydra. However, the individual members of a hydra CAN be read using meta (to an extent). And yes, that is an accusation.

Do you know the fact that Wisdom metaing Remembrance? Good. Now, you should have better accusation. You're contradicting with your own post.

...? I haven't contradicted anything I've said at all. People were talking about meta, and you sought to quash the discussion. Therefore, my immediate logic is that you're afraid of something in the conversation. Probably that they'll say something about your meta that'll lead to you being scum.

I thought you said "He was paying too much attention to Remembrance, so I'm trying to move his attention to more places." Why does he need to focus on more than one person on a time? We only have 1 lynch anyways.

"I like to have mislynch every time". Yeah, you like it.

What?

See, but you're asking questions that there's no good answer to. You're asking "Hey, why are you asking for Remembrance's read on me?" which the correct answer is "Because I want to know his read." It's not a useful question in the first place, so it's unsurprising you'd get a slightly snarky answer.

The fact, he can answered my second question well.

Why am I interested in Remembrance's read? Because I am trying to read Remembrance.

Sorry, you aren't read all of those posts but accuse me.

Again, what? He said he's asking the question to Remembrance to assist him in reading Remembrance. That's an entirely sensical answer.

There's nothing flawed about my logic. Not everyone is going to vote for scum.

Oh yes, when there is scumslip, I will not vote. Good logic. Try again.

Except scum aren't usually caught on scumslips; they're usually caught by the motives behind their actions. Sometimes, people don't see said motives and read the guy who's getting lynched as town.

Well if you're going to strawman my accusation of Remembrance, that's cool too. I specifically said I found his reasons to be weak and bad. If he had good reason to townread you, I'd be okay with it.

Try reading again, this time looking for the parts where I called each of my two townreads town.

So, "Your read is bad read because I tell my reason to you. My read is good read because I'm not telling my reason to you". Good accusation. Try again.

No, I said Remembrance's read was bad because

his

reasons were bad. Are you being purposely obtuse?

If you think he's question-dodging scummily...yes.

Pathetic... Did I already said he was too concentrate with Remembrance? I never said he question-dodging. I never said he is scummy or scum. I said he kept distance from me. Good accusation. Try again.

Straight up lie found:

Wisdom is question dodging again like always...

Do you have other scumreads? If so, why aren't you voting them?

Looking an accusation for me? Like I give a shit to your logic, scum. You want a vote? Here, have mine.

Vote : HD

Looked like an OMGUS? Should I care? Here, you will like my claim. VT. You can easily mislynch me.

Right, come back when you have a real reason as to why I'm scum. And, yes, it is OMGUS, since you don't have any reason to call me scum. In addition, why would you claim so early?

I think it's townish, particularly if SE-Asians is scum, because scum-

mollie

would have left it hang with the bad answer and not have bothered to follow through from lack of motivation to scumhunt.

I don't think scum-

mollie

would have left it hang with the bad answer, as you put it...

You are proofing my word about meta.

I didn't use meta, buldermar did. My read is based purely on this game.

P-Edit: Bacde, are you trolling or serious, I shouldn't have to explain these 50 million times

[Bacde]

^^Sorry I haven't everything if its not painfully obvious

[Bacde]

meh I'll go read right now its only 7 pages

[Human Destroyer]

WAIT

HOLD ON

LINCOLM SCUMSLIPPED

[Human Destroyer]

Here, you will like my claim. VT. You can easily mislynch me.

This is an open setup with no Vanilla Townies.

[Lincolm]

Well, now you reading my post. The fuck why you aren't reading my others post?

[Human Destroyer]

You should go read anyway though

It'll give you more clarity on...all of my reads really.

I'm thinking of adding you and buldermar to the townlist but I'm not certain yet.

P-Edit: I am...

[Bacde]

LOL

Vote: SE-Asians

HD I love you sometimes

[Human Destroyer]

What do you mean sometimes

[SE-Asians]

Nah, sorry, wrong account.

I don't know which part that I'm not explain clearly to you. I already explain all. And you're questioning that I already post.

Nah, okay, game over baby, mislynch coming. Sorry Sora and TNE. Sorry Town. No one believe me.

[Human Destroyer]

Here, you will like my claim. VT. You can easily mislynch me.

This is an open setup with no Vanilla Townies.

Lincolm, why are you ignoring this

I just caught you on a pretty major slip up

and you're just sorta acting like that didn't happen

[SE-Asians]

I did answer.

Well, now you reading my post. The fuck why you aren't reading my others post?

I want to know that you're read my post or not. All of your questions already answered in my previous posts. God damnit, I don't know the part I don't explain it clearly. Nah, just vote me. End the fucking day...