In post 412, Metal Overlord wrote:All of MO's reads are based off of playstyle and not scumtells. It feels manufactured. It looks as if its only purpose is to placate town. Also, those reads do not match his previous post of reads on which I originally questioned him about.
Well obviously it was manufactured, the whole point of it was to keep MS here from being lynched.
wha? *looks up at vote count at time of reads* You had one vote on you and were hardly a topic of a front runner to being lynched. Why did you think manufactured reads would actually help your slot (which didn't look overly bad in the first place?)?
kx wrote:
Also, the question is, based on the reads, what do you assume my alignment is?
I hate to break it to you, but posting a list of reads in a large which says a little something about everyone and looks like your just assigning alignments to everyone for the sake of it, doesn't look town. What it looks like is someone who is trying to appease town. Some people do it as part of their playstyle, and I looked and you as town did do this in a non-large game, but it's something that looks scummy from the outside if it's not known to be part of your particular playstyle. Just saying. And the reads were kinda meh.
kx wrote:
And, in case you missed it, I didn't say I had null reads, I said people read neutral. It's an important distinction considering I specifically said I planned on posting farther.
And this is a semantic debate. The two things are the same as far as reads go, and this does happen to be a scumtell of sorts. Scum love to get into this kind of debate because it has nothing to do with alignments. If you're town, in the future, just give your strongest reads and reasons if you want. There's no reason at all to manufacture or push something if you're not sure, and there's no reason to mention it if you aren't sure. You don't have to give reads lists to keep from getting lynched, just look natural.
kx wrote:
Also, the post wasn't made to "answer your questions" they were made since the original part was incomplete, and didn't fully accomplish what I wished. You say that my reads seem based more on playstyle then scumslips. I'm sorry, but how does that make them any less valid, at least when I consider content and content quality as part of playstyle? Also, I happened to see any scumslips that could be called such, I believe I pointed them out. On the subject of changing reads, with the exception of Robo, I think my reads actually remained congruent throughout. Forgive me for not making my posts so manufactured that I went back to make sure they matched with all previous ones. As for the neutral reads, sorry if that wasn't made clear, that was for people who nothing specific stood out about upon a brief read through, so effectively consider no reads at all there. Check the second post for actual neutral reads. ~KX
But, you did say they were manufactured. And playstyle does not equate to alignment, that is why some of your reads look scummy. Playstyle is pretty much something that is neutral; most people develop their playstyle within about 10-15 games and it doesn't change a whole lot regardless of their alignment beyond things like lurking or tone. How can you judge content quality when you don't know anything about a person. For instance, I think my posts have been quite content quality for the most part though you don't agree. Have you looked into my scum v town meta to see if my quality here matches how I play regularly as each alignment? Or Arthur's? Until you have a baseline to judge on that sort of thing you really can't make an alignment decision on things like that.
That is why your reads look like they're scum motivated because they look like they're nitpicking on playstyle things rather than actually alignment relevant things. And scum often have a difficult time really trying to make town people look scummy, so they tend to pick up on weird things like that.
Half troll/Half wall.
I'm (Arthur) the wall. Don't let Tammy fool you. She trolls you w/o you even knowing! It's like you're in a constant state on mindfuck. RUN WHILE YOU CAN.
I feel like you deserve a trophy or something for writing the worst post in the thread thus far.
