Mini 374 - Numbers Mafia, Game Over!

[pablito]

I count three votes. I suppose TEOM can give us a VC ti be sure

[Zindaras]

I counted 3 at the time I claimed, and I thought one more got added after that.

I like how everyone believes Maz when he just keeps on shouting "fake fake fake!"...

[pablito]

Your night choice does not match your reaction to your night choice's death.

I didn't think Primate's vote counted because TEOM didn't count it in the VC. Zindaras who would you choose for tonight's night choice if you were to get a chance to do it?

[Zindaras]

Your night choice does not match your reaction to your night choice's death.

As I said, slight pings, not thinking "OMFGSCUM", disappointed by the fact that my investigation came up town and dead.

I didn't think Primate's vote counted because TEOM didn't count it in the VC. Zindaras who would you choose for tonight's night choice if you were to get a chance to do it?

Well, my ability really only is useful for confirming or denying claims, I'm afraid, so I'd probably investigate Nightfall to confirm his claim. Either that or someone who may come in lynch danger tomorrow, so I can confirm him/her.

[Zindaras]

EBWOP: When they claim, obviously

[Nightfall]

Hey guys, finished exams now, but christmas stuff has taken up time too.

I've read what I missed and am ready to post some more.

As far as Zind goes I am okay following Maz since he seems to be someone with somesort of knowledge on whats going on. He was the one to link me to Merts death, eventhough he was wrong on the scum part, he was right in the sense that I did it.

I would however like him to tell us maybe on a scale of 1-10 just how sure he really is about it. 10 being counterclaim like sure, 5 being he seems as scummy as I was to him, and 1 being he just thinks the role claim is stupid and really isnt sure at all.

ALSO I will leave my powers in the publics hands for tonight. I will say though that I would think it would be a waste to self target. If by night there hasnt been a decision reached on what I should do, I will refrain from using my powers on anyone.

[Nightfall]

P.S> Just thought of this,

Zindaras if your just a role cop, what use can you have in this game? What need would there be for people to make up falseclaims? We have seen that "numbers" can be mafia (BOO) and non numbers can be town (Me if I die). So what would stop someone from just telling the truth anyways?

[Zindaras]

Apparently, the scum do have numbers that give them away. We're just not seeing them.

[Primate]

Stop fishing nightfall.

Maz said he was 100% sure, and it don't get surer than that.

I missed that I wasn't voting Zindie at present. I may rectify this soon.

You not targetting anyone is good. As I say, use it like a vig.

[Zindaras]

And even if the role isn't particularly useful for grabbing scum, at least I can use it to confirm myself.

I'm willing to find out someone's role name tonight, if the town wants me to, and then reveal it tomorrow, thus confirming I have the ability.

[Nightfall]

Maz said he was 100% sure, and it don't get surer than that.

Point taken, but I felt I should ask one last time since I am not greatly familiar with Maz's playstyle. I've played in games where there have been players that have posted "Lynch ***, he's scum" and people took it as if it were cop results when really it was ment as a joke by the protown player.

[pablito]

Here's the problem with Zindaras staying alive to confirm his role

1) Zindaras could choose any old person by random (say a scum partner) and reveal and we'd get confirmation.

2) Zindaras was going to choose Nightfall - which I think was already fairly obvious that he was X - considering Mert's death notice of "covered in variables"

Therefore Zindaras wasn't choosing the best option for one, and it's still not as sure he can even confirm anyone.

I think there's too much doubt on Zindaras, plus there are a few that we can test (say Brizzy or Maz or Primate or me) by finding out Zindaras alignment.

I think the benefits from a Zindaras lynch would put us better during next day even if Zindaras turns out to be pro-town.

That being said, I'd rather Nightfall choose someone and use it as if it were going to turn out to be a vigilante-kill. I don't think we should direct him and I don't think he should reveal prior to choosing.

If we don't lynch Zindaras, I think we should lynch Nightfall just so we can get rid of the possible vigilante just in case he's the SK. I'm just worried we'll get into a bad situation tomorrow, so we have to take the best route possible.

[Zindaras]

*sighs*

I will target whoever, whatever, the town wants me to target. If the town wants me to target Nightfall, okay. If not, okay.

Your theory states that I could say I targeted a scum partner. Well, that means that if I come up scum, you'll know to lynch the person I targeted.

[Nightfall]

True, but you might feal the risk is worth it to keep you in the game longer.

[Maz Medias]

When I straight out say "Lynch X", I'm being serious. In response to your question, 9.99.

[neongrey]

Maz said he was 100% sure, and it don't get surer than that.

Point taken, but I felt I should ask one last time since I am not greatly familiar with Maz's playstyle. I've played in games where there have been players that have posted "Lynch ***, he's scum" and people took it as if it were cop results when really it was ment as a joke by the protown player.

I dunno, I think he's definitely not joking; that is, he intends us to believe what he's saying. I'm not too sure otherwise; I don't like either him or Zind, really, so... yeah.

[Zindaras]

True, but you might feal the risk is worth it to keep you in the game longer.

It's horrible play to take out a scumbuddy to survive, what, one day longer?

If you think I'd do that, it'd be a good idea to leave me alive so I'll out one of my scumbuddies tomorrow.

When I straight out say "Lynch X", I'm being serious. In response to your question, 9.99.

How?

[Maz Medias]

How?

That's for me to know, and you to find out when your partner kills me tonight.

[Zindaras]

How?

That's for me to know, and you to find out when your partner kills me tonight.

Stop talking crap, Mazzy. You say I'm Mafia. You're wrong. I'm Town. You have

zero

proof of this, or else you'd have said it before.

Your attack on Nightfall was related to his target, so if you investigated me N0 and saw me going nowhere, well, that's what I claimed.

[Maz Medias]

How?

That's for me to know, and you to find out when your partner kills me tonight.

:roll:

Stop talking crap, Mazzy. You say I'm Mafia. You're wrong. I'm Town. You have

zero

proof of this, or else you'd have said it before.

Your attack on Nightfall was related to his target, so if you investigated me N0 and saw me going nowhere, well, that's what I claimed.

If you were literate, you'd probably be able to figure it out. Oh, well.

Why isn't Zindaras dead yet?

[Zindaras]

If you were literate, you'd probably be able to figure it out. Oh, well.

You have only stated your reason was ironclad and irrefutable, not what it was.

And I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from namecalling.

[Maz Medias]

If you were literate, you'd probably be able to figure it out. Oh, well.

You have only stated your reason was ironclad and irrefutable, not what it was.

And I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from namecalling.

It's not my fault you can't read. I didn't state it explicitly, but I made it known.

[Zindaras]

It's not my fault you can't read. I didn't state it explicitly, but I made it known.

I don't see it, and I don't think I'm the only one.

[Maz Medias]

It's not my fault you can't read. I didn't state it explicitly, but I made it known.

I don't see it, and I don't think I'm the only one.

That's unfortunate.

If you can convince everyone else that I need to make it even more obvious, I will. Otherwise, your attempts at fishing are going to continue to fail.

[Zindaras]

I can't defend myself from ethereal attacks, and I hate not being able to defend myself. I don't give a rat's ass about fishing right now, because the alternative seems to be death.