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Post Post #2700 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:20 am

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In post 2697, guille2015 wrote:This is when you received the card. So you did have it when we were discussing, who had it.

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Post Post #2701 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:21 am

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That's understandable.
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Post Post #2702 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:23 am

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Fun Fact: I sent 331 message to various people for this game

This includes things like Role pms, cards, actions, dead threads, etc...
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Post Post #2703 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:25 am

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What off the community and chance cards?
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Post Post #2704 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:26 am

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In post 2700, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 2697, guille2015 wrote:This is when you received the card. So you did have it when we were discussing, who had it.

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Jake I hope you're not going to act as though your own PM management was very good this game.
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Post Post #2705 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:32 am

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Deleting a pm and asking for the mod to resend it is completely different than forgetting to tell people you had a card and tried to put the blame on the dead guy who couldn't defend himself.
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Post Post #2706 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:34 am

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In post 2705, Jake from State Farm wrote:Deleting a pm and asking for the mod to resend it is completely different than forgetting to tell people you had a card and tried to put the blame on the dead guy who couldn't defend himself.


Was this part of your "evidence"?
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Post Post #2707 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:40 am

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it certainly hurt your credibility but it wasn't a major factor in my decision.
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Post Post #2708 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:48 am

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I've mislynched myself in LyLo to lose recently, so really I should be more understanding, but it's just so annoying after successfully avoiding a not-1v1 to fall flat in an actual 1v1 as an uncounterclaimed cop with a guilty.

I'm going to stop giving tagouts a free ride. This is 2/2 in our joint games now where I laid off when I should've pushed harder.
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Post Post #2709 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:57 am

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In post 2685, Jake from State Farm wrote:So I'm kinda disappointed in SC, I didn't expect him to quit under suspicion. I really wish more people was suspicious cheery. I knew he was scum but just couldn't convince anyone to lynch him. Nice trick by bussing him in lylo. Scum seems to be taking more risks now

I figured I needed to be on the wagon and joining then was the best way to get your vote onto xis

I see I managed to actually figure out why we weren't getting taking results beforehand.
But that was nice that noone knew what was happening with the power roles.
And I'm surprised I managed to live anyway, my counterattacking you near the end of yesterday was piety bad of me not reading the thread. Though I was meant to get that failed result and not be blocked.
day 2's claim about mhork bring tracked and not targeting the kill was because I decided you didn't need to know he didn't have powers (and I would have ended up lying about what I did see if he did actually have any powers)
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Post Post #2710 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:02 am

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In post 2698, guille2015 wrote:Well, Xis Cheery and mhork. trusted me. The rest either wanted me killed or didn't care. At the time there wasn't a mayority on people not liking me, but there were plenty that given enough time, I think me being in Lylo would have guaranteed a town loss. It's irrelevant now though.

When 2 of those are scum, there's going to be problems.
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Post Post #2711 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:44 am

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Well fuck. A calamity of errors. Maybe I should have focused on the bastard part more than the swingy. I just took it to mean it could swing to any faction depending on cards.

Should have stared at the Night Action table more, but meh, scum hid behind a game mechanic and this is my first GNR game. Sorry Mehdi. :/

That lylo bus took balls, well done, actually all the early day 1 bussing was well orchestrated. I was wondering whether I should have just quick-lynched Mhork, I like to think I would have chosen him as I originally stated at the start of the day but making the decision was very much a heart/head decision.

I hope you got some enjoyment out of it all GNR :P

Did scum indeed have daytalk?
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Post Post #2712 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:53 am

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I think I would have fucked up a 3 man lylo against Jake though anyway.
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Post Post #2713 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:58 am

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Had Jal not lurked that last day phase I'd probably not excused mhork's. I only had 1 solid piece of evidence on mhork but didn't give it enough weight. I'm mad at myself now
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Post Post #2714 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:00 am

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I enjoyed watching you struggle Safety :P
If anyone figured out the mechanic, I think you would have done so

All QTs were Night only (except for the dead thread of course)

I thought town was going to win with what happened on Day 1, but I think town was doome the moment you guys tried organizing night actions in the table
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Post Post #2715 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:05 am

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One of my posts this day has me figuring out the mechanic (except I was confused by deed counters)

My not seeing Xis deed count, yet the deed counter had been seen by watchers triggered me into thinking that, and it does work a lot better than cards not working due to death as I suspected earlier.

Had you lynched mhork, I was actally going to probably no kill and claim green giving me jailkeep if I received mhork's green card.
(when i went bussing today, i'd thought about what role green was actually likely to have behind it, and figured roleblock/jailkeeper would be likely due to the proximity of the go to jail space (though i had forgotten we hadn't found out what purples next to the actual jail did, I switched that and train stations.)
If i gained the vig (at least at that stage when i hadn't confirmed what the mechanic was, i probably would have attempted to use it on xis.
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Post Post #2716 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:51 pm

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I feel dirty after this game. Normally, out of principle, I hate lurking as a strategy, but it seemed to be the right method.

Good game, all, and special congrats to Cheery.
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Post Post #2717 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:52 pm

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In post 2713, Jake from State Farm wrote:Had Jal not lurked that last day phase I'd probably not excused mhork's. I only had 1 solid piece of evidence on mhork but didn't give it enough weight. I'm mad at myself now


No. When you choose wrong in LYLO you man up and take responsibility. I was obv town considering Lurker, the cop claim, and a SK who confirmed my card and initially CC'd me. Instead, you derped it up. Whatever I did on the last day has no bearing on whatever the hell you considered Mhork to be considering I was obv town and essentially confirmed town most of the game regardless of my actions that day.

My last read at the end of the day was that everything lead to Mhork. Having been suspected by people randomly to be scum at the last day and to be night killed? Figure it out. Or looked at my scum reads, since, you know, I was one of the few people you KNEW was now town.

Also, this game is another example that if anyone says "fuck it" or "crossing my fingers" in regard to making a quick decision to vote in LYLO, it almost always results in failure.

Anyway, regardless of what I said above, this was a collective town loss and Safety played the best endgame for town and pretty much figured out scum in the end.

Grats scum. Well deserved. Sorry to see you go so early Baby. It was kinda fun while it lasted. Sorry for being inactive towards the last day I was around (I was active at first) but mostly for the day before. I may have pushed for a Mhork shot. I almost did shoot Mhork. Glad I decided not to shoot Mehdi or Xis though like I wanted to previously.
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Post Post #2718 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:53 pm

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Uber, seriously. Stop pressuring me as scum in every damn game! Already changed my message due to finishing First Time Mafia first.
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Post Post #2719 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:02 pm

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In post 2717, Jal wrote:When you choose wrong in LYLO you man up and take responsibility.

you have great reading comprehension cause I already did took responsibility for the loss. I am allowed to bitch at the people want to basically throw the game away by lurking their ass off during the most important part of the game. Just cause you were the most obv town doesn't give you the right to stop contributing.
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Post Post #2720 (ISO) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:03 pm

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*did take
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Post Post #2721 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:30 am

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Post Post #2722 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:32 am

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In post 2716, Lord Mhork wrote:I feel dirty after this game. Normally, out of principle, I hate lurking as a strategy, but it seemed to be the right method.

Good game, all, and special congrats to Cheery.


Come to the dark side.

Lurking isn't all that bad, except the lack of reads, lack of information, of associative tells, of reaction tests, of alignment-alignment comparisons, etc...
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Post Post #2723 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:49 pm

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No... No I hate lurkers because they make the game impossible to play. Look at this game. Lurking killed it. :/
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Post Post #2724 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:13 am

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Shameless plug, I need a replacement for my game. Can someone hook me up?
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