Open 474 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over!

[Jennifer]

@Nic

I think it's out of bork, HD, and Jacob. It's probably not bork though, I just can't rule him out. KX has seemed weird lately, but I expect him to come back and redeem himself.

I absolutely will not vote KX today. I reread him and he still seems town to me. Seems like Jacob is getting attention as a compromise vote, though I'm not interested until we get a little more information or until I get off my ass and read a little more.

These thoughts appear incongruous to me:
- In the first post you're indicating that your top two suspects are HD and Jacob.
- HD is now at L-1 and Jacob is a strong second place contender for today's lynch.
- But now you're indicating that you're not willing to compromise with the group on lynching your scum read Jacob yet, and you're also silent on the fact that your other scum read is almost dead.

Explain your thought process please?

[Jennifer]

Guys... can you read through Nic's ISO please and let me know if his progression of reads make sense to you? Looking at it now, it's not feeling natural to me. I had given him town points because he reminded us that time was running out and we was willing to switch to someone else to secure a lynch, but looking at that now scum would have been willing to do that too because both potential lynches for the day were town (Doc and Serra).

A game of mine recently ended and I found out that the person I was least willing to lynch was in fact the remaining scum, so I'm looking everything over now to not repeat that mistake. My thought du jour is Nic/Jacob.

[CityElectric]

Votecount 4.1

Human Destroyer (L-1):

ArcAngel9, KX, JacobSavage

JacobSavage (L-2):

borkjerfkin, Jennifer

Not voting (2):

Human Destroyer, NicCage

It's now day 4. With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch. Day 4 ends in (expired on 2013-03-24 21:00:00).

Note: the OP has been updated and everything is like it should be.

[Jennifer]

@Mod

My vote has moved to Jacob. Thanks!

[ArcAngel9]

HD was posting yesterday on the other games. He is intentionally ignoring this game.

[CityElectric]

@Mod

My vote has moved to Jacob. Thanks!

Votecount has been updated. Carry on.

[Jennifer]

@Mod Yay thanks!

I don't understand why HD would ignore this game when he's L-1.

Arc, What do you think about Nic and the concerns I raised?

[NicCage]

My thought process is that I haven't had time to read HD's massive ass ISO again, and that we haven't heard from him today. If HD ignores this game forever I'll probably vote him, but I want to hear what he thinks. Jacob could very well be scum, but he's impossible to read or look into, it would be too easy to lynch him without thinking about it.

As KX said, we only have one mislynch left, so I'd feel a lot better if we were more careful today than yesterday.

You seem jumpy. If the scum team is Jacob and I, what happened to your read on KX?

[ArcAngel9]

I think is NIC town. I suspected KX for the same reason and expected him to come back and redeem himself. I voted KX yesterday day phase becuz i needed to drive off my self and think the possilbiy of someone else being scum.

When I was so sure about Cherry could be scum, It was HD who was happy to join the wagon but he did used a decent reason but when Cherry was night killed, it pushed me that It was HD who was distancing himself from Good morning, and later pushed for DOC , Jacob and Cherry's tooo..

HD was also pushign for Panzer lynch.. And normally the town HD wouldn't abandon himself and be somewhere else. At this moment i am more confident with HD and anyone else.

[Human Destroyer]

Yeah, when you play 20 games, you try playing in every single one of your games with equal attention

I'm sure you'll have fun trying

[KX]

And who's fault is that HD? Anyway, how long would you need to make a response, if you even have one?

[Human Destroyer]

I have nothing to respond to, your case is p bad

I would be willing to lynch Jacob, however, if they go town, get HD.

But this is REALLY bad if Jacob is actually town

This literally sets you up for a 1-2 lynch and win scenario.

[Human Destroyer]

VOTE: Nic

He's fence-sitting on both major wagons today

That's pretty bad

[Human Destroyer]

My thought process is that I haven't had time to read HD's massive ass ISO again, and that we haven't heard from him today. If HD ignores this game forever I'll probably vote him, but I want to hear what he thinks. Jacob could very well be scum, but he's impossible to read or look into, it would be too easy to lynch him without thinking about it.

As KX said, we only have one mislynch left, so I'd feel a lot better if we were more careful today than yesterday.

You seem jumpy. If the scum team is Jacob and I, what happened to your read on KX?

"Well, I could go for lynching HD, but I want him to post more first. Also, Jacob could be scum, but he could also be town because I'm having trouble reading him."

[ArcAngel9]

Yeah, when you play 20 games, you try playing in every single one of your games with equal attention

I'm sure you'll have fun trying

HD, i think you and me are kind pretty much in equal amount of games ..infact i am in more games than you.
The thing that concerns me is that you didn't even made a single post here yesterday when were talking about you and you were at L-1 all the time. I understand some times we get stuck in a different game and we might have somthing to say in an another but you were at L-1, how could yoou not give attention to this game when it is needed most from you?

[Human Destroyer]

You might want to count mine again; I'm in at least 20 games right now, relatively sure you're in less

What? You mean other than the post completely debunking KX's shit case against me? Right...

[ArcAngel9]

the HD i know would have proved that if KX is really scum.. your posts were just defending yourself but not provign KX scumminess

[Human Destroyer]

What?

Nic's my focus right now, not KX. Why should my reads conform to what you expect of me?

[KX]

Um, HD, what happened to the whole "Jacob is scum" thing you've been saying since Day 1?

[NicCage]

Strong case there HD. Is that what your VCA told you too?
I can't see anything wrong with me wanting you to post your thoughts on the game before I up and hammer you, and I think it's reasonable not to want to rush into a possible Jacob mislynch without seeing what my other scumread might look like. You can't deny that Jacob has never given a satisfying answer to a question.
That looks like a lazy misrep to me, so you want to try again with that case?

[Human Destroyer]

Oh don't worry, there will be a better case later

And you'll scream reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal good before you die

[borkjerfkin]

What's interesting to me though is that I have a townread on Jennifer, so is there anything about her that strikes you as scummy?

Not especially -- I just don't see any glaring reason to call her town. Why is she town to you? Why not vote Jacob if he's scummy to you? I get that voting HD would be hammering him.

I also get that Jacob is starting to become a policy lynch for people, but I think his day 1 play was lousy and he's been out of sight => out of mind for most of us since then.

I agree with the negative connection between KX and Jacob, that's a pretty good find.

I've yet to see a compelling case on HD that conflicts with my earlier reads of him.

[ArcAngel9]

We are not moving at all folks...

BORK, who would you be voting today?
Nic and Jennifer - Can you both make a decision?

[borkjerfkin]

AA is not reading the thread. Swell.

[ArcAngel9]

Bork, Jacob is town.. He is not happening...
you need to re-think