NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[Aj The Epic]

Says the one who can't hold a read.

[Majiffy]

Rather he go than penguin -- he's voting his number 4 right now btw.

That's because no one wants to lynch the first three.

[penguin_alien]

So you'd rather help string up someone else for a town loss than argue a case? At MyLo? That's the stance a town player has. Oh, wait...

[Majiffy]

I've been arguing their cases all game, I'm done.

[Aj The Epic]

So, P_A, you're just going to sit there and mudsling the rest of the day, sitting defensively at best and non-existent at worst, hoping not to get lynched? That's town play.

[penguin_alien]

As faras I can tell from Majiffy's ISO, he thinks the scum team is theReverend, Vifam, and borkjerfkin, although I'm not sure about the last one. If this is the case, he would have expected them to pile on my lynch. That they didn't means he should either be putting me as a top three scum suspect or assuming a scum was already on the wagon, namely UberNinja. So what gives?

[borkjerfkin]

Exactly, I don't think he really had any intention to seriously push anything.

[Majiffy]

As faras I can tell from Majiffy's ISO, he thinks the scum team is theReverend, Vifam, and borkjerfkin, although I'm not sure about the last one. If this is the case, he would have expected them to pile on my lynch. That they didn't means he should either be putting me as a top three scum suspect or assuming a scum was already on the wagon, namely UberNinja. So what gives?

Why would I move you up and bump out one of the three if I don't know which one to bump out?

My reads are independent; just because they're my three strongest scum reads doesn't mean they have to be (or are even likely to be) the team all together.

[penguin_alien]

OK, so one of them can't be scum from your perspective, yes? I don't expect you to know which one isn't; only that something in your reads needs to be reevaluated. Unless you do expect to know because you're scum who's known what's what all along. Even if you're assuming I am scum, given that the Mafia has indicated they'll kill off nconfirmed townies over conf-town, you should be trying to leave the town in the best possible position for the next day in the event of your death.

[Majiffy]

So... even if I'm assuming you're scum... I... shouldn't be lynching you? Because town needs to be in the best possible... what

[Majiffy]

Please tell me what the single cohesive thought stringing that entire shitpost together was, because I can't find it.

[borkjerfkin]

Ok I don't understand 5058 either.

[penguin_alien]

No, if you think I'm scum enough to risk the game on my lynch, you should be thinking ahead about how your reads will readjust on my presumed scum flip. That you're not interested in doing so supports the idea that you know lynching me will end in a scum victory, end of story.

[Majiffy]

What makes you think I'm not interested in doing so?

Lets not put the buggy before the horse, eh?

[Majiffy]

OK, so one of them can't be scum from your perspective, yes?

I don't expect you to know which one isn't; only that something in your reads needs to be reevaluated.

That you're not interested in doing so supports the idea that

you know lynching me will end in a scum victory, end of story.

Meanwhile, in contradiction land.

[penguin_alien]

If you were town you wouldn't know which scum read to downgrade but you'd think one would need to be. If you're scum, you know I'm town, so with my lynch scum victory follows. Not seing what's so complicated.

Off to throw birdbaths.

[Majiffy]

Because you're calling me scum for not knowing which one to downgrade. And you've not evinced that I don't think any of them need to be.

[UberNinja]

but it's cute how you keep backtracking and hoping it makes you look town, rev

You're either scum or bad.

shut up and vote penguin

your posturing is worthless

[UberNinja]

Anyone wonder why I haven't been lynched with so many people calling me scum for so long?

I'll let you ponder on that one.

By the by, it has precedent.

where are you going with this?

if you're town, vote penguin

if you're scum, vote penguin anyway

[UberNinja]

So, P_A, you're just going to sit there and mudsling the rest of the day, sitting defensively at best and non-existent at worst, hoping not to get lynched? That's town play.

bingo

[Vifam]

Six people voting, eight alive, one is confirmed town. They're are 2-3 scum here

Someone do the math

[UberNinja]

No, if you think I'm scum enough to

risk the game on my lynch

, you should be thinking ahead about how your reads will readjust on my presumed scum flip. That you're not interested in doing so supports the idea that you know lynching me will end in a scum victory, end of story.

1. read the bolded
2. vote penguin
3. ???
4. profit

[UberNinja]

OK, so one of them can't be scum from your perspective, yes?

I don't expect you to know which one isn't; only that something in your reads needs to be reevaluated.

That you're not interested in doing so supports the idea that

you know lynching me will end in a scum victory, end of story.

Meanwhile, in contradiction land.

okay majiffy's more likely to be town

which leaves rev and one of vifam/bork/aj as the last scum

[borkjerfkin]

What's wrong with the bolded?

[borkjerfkin]

Six people voting, eight alive, one is confirmed town. They're are 2-3 scum here

Someone do the math

I don't get what point you're trying to make