NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[Maestro]

UberNinja is a dick. This becomes a VC later.

[Majiffy]

You coulda gone with this

Canned laughter makes me cringe.

Yeah but the video itself is actually hilarious.

[Majiffy]

FUCK YOU MAESTRO I ALMOST HAD THAT I GOT YOUR 25 IN THE P-EDIT.

[UberNinja]

even if he is scum, i make no sense with him as buddies

and that doesn't even begin to explain my complicated relationship with rev

so do you think rev is town now? because you went from majiffy/rev to majiffy/uber

and you haven't said much about rev since i started calling him scum

also, majiffy was trying to lynch me earlier, and you have chosen to ignore that

seriously, you need to think your shit through

and then think it through again

and then make a post apologizing for being so incredibly dumb

are you talking to me here?

yes

[UberNinja]

So much for Posh Mafia. Although I suppose that ship sailed Day One.

AngryPidgeon, since everyone seems to agree that we'll get one more chance to lynch I think we get the most utility out of lynching ActionDan. Either of them flipping scum fails to exonerate the other in my mind, but the claimed cop at least has to give us another investigation result if he lives through the night. Given that no one's come forward with a night result that supports or denies IAI's claim, i.e. tracker, in terms of set-up having a town cop and multiple confirmable townies plus a bodyguard balances a framer and jailkeeper (and the vig goes somewhere in there).

For that matter, no one's come forward with any kind of (truthful) investigative role claim. If that's all we have, by my count we're assuming scum JK, framer, three goons; town cop, bodyguard, vig, IC, three masons, thirteen VTs.

What do you consider the most compelling argument to lynch IAI? I'd say the incorrect result on MattP is the worst, we've seen from him, followed far behind by the timing in posting about the ActionDan result. Although it was his first post of the day made less than two hours after the day phase started. I do thunk that if he isn't lynched and lives through the night, we should collectively agree that no one posts anything in the new day phase before he gives us his investigation result.

in the bolded, IAI's claim is both true and false

do tell

[UberNinja]

Dan WAS a relatively easy target.

Popular sentiment seems to disagree. So unless you have better reasons to support it than "well look at how far it's gotten!", since Dan

not

being an easy target was

kind of the point

, and the

reason

why it's gotten so far...

also, majiffy was trying to lynch me earlier, and you have chosen to ignore that

And tried to lynch Rev earlier too. And will in the future.

Then again, I do like to bus, so maybe all three of us are scum together and Mollie is just ace this game.

that's definitely the most LIKELY scenario

but is it the most INTERESTING one?

i vote no

[UberNinja]

FUCK YOU MAESTRO I ALMOST HAD THAT I GOT YOUR 25 IN THE P-EDIT.

wait, maestro's actually pagetop sniping, but he's not putting in vote counts?

lol! fuck. that's even funnier than the lost video

[penguin_alien]

I was referring to MattP's gunsmith claim in the context of people volunteering claims that would cast doubt on IAI's claim.

[UberNinja]

UberNinja is a dick. This becomes a VC later.

Hehehehe

[UberNinja]

I was referring to MattP's gunsmith claim in the context of people volunteering claims that would cast doubt on IAI's claim.

... "no one's come forward with any kind of (truthful) investigative role claim"

except that IAI's claim was THE DIRECT RESULT of matt's gunsmith claim

[penguin_alien]

Yes: MattP made a false claim that forced IAI to claim. There was no voluntary claim involved there by my standards, as it didn't leave IAI a choice whether he was being honest or having to fall back on his crumb. I'd be shocked if there wasn't some type of investigative role around, and my point was no one's said, "wait, I have an investigative role that seems to overlap too much with IAI's claim"

[Lord Mhork]

Hi. There are 7 new pages I don't have time to read. I'll try and do so later.

[UberNinja]

still waiting on somebody to do something before something else happens

[pirate mollie]

even if he is scum, i make no sense with him as buddies

and that doesn't even begin to explain my complicated relationship with rev

so do you think rev is town now? because you went from majiffy/rev to majiffy/uber

and you haven't said much about rev since i started calling him scum

also, majiffy was trying to lynch me earlier, and you have chosen to ignore that

seriously, you need to think your shit through

and then think it through again

and then make a post apologizing for being so incredibly dumb

are you talking to me here?

yes

I am pretty sure I never had majiffy/rev as scum, mostly cos I have had rev as town throughout the game.

[UberNinja]

I am pretty sure I could look up some quotes that would make you remember differently.

[pirate mollie]

go ahead

in long games my memory occasionally fails but I can remember weird details about people.

[UberNinja]

Don't have time right now, I'll do it tomorrow

[UberNinja]

You should be getting something shortly mollie

[Majiffy]

UberNinja is a dick. This becomes a VC later.

Hehehehe

Plz don't ever let it be, Maestro.

[ActionDan]

-strong town reads

Bitmap

Why was bitmap your strongest townread that you listed him first here? I thought hw was town too when I took the slot but it wasn't my BEST townread.

ArcAngel is incredibly town now.

Why did you say this?

Spoiler:

the above argument (sccum giving up one of their own) is flawed. I invite you to think it over

If Matt flips town not-miller, are you against an IaI lynch?

if matt flips town isn't obvious that IaI should be lynched

really?

I mean there's no need for framer concerns because masons counter that pretty well so I doubt it's in the mafia's arsenal.

Ok that quote is shady. Im not sure what to say about this.

Matt scum => AP town only. But don't worry UN I'd never lynch you

You are saying that matt flipping scum means Im town? Who was this in response to?

Those strong townreads were in no particular order of strength. Bit got the town read for the first 10 pages of the game. His conscientious posts interacting with Boner Police mirrored my own thoughts (i.e, Boner pushing Bit = bad, fluff != scum).

Arc angel I thought showed initiative to begin with, and was displaying effort. But I thought the post about scum-hunting "in her own particular way" read genuine for a newbie. Om was a town read before so I just bumped her up.

that was directed at UN's 4133. The end of it

reads:

Rev} - town never lynch
AP} - town never lynch

Bork} - pretty sure town but I should check over him.

UN} - was pretty sure town but god damn his posts betray such stupidity. I have decided that most likely he just thinks he's smart. When he's not. at all.

AJ} - Well he's supporting the IaI lynch at least. I never thought he was bad before, but I will have to look over him as well.

IaI} - lynch him no if ands or buts

Vifam} - scum.

Majiffy} - didn't think more than "4205 makes sense". Even with his limited time on his hands, that's incredibly poor to vote in a 1v1 with a reason so flippant. He isn't thinking. He's prob scum

P_A} - leaning scum for this day. Sticking to optimizing the lynch betrays not reading a word of what IaI or I post, or if so, not giving 2 shits about it.

[borkjerfkin]

Mollie what are we doing here? Are we seriously going to table this issue today?

IAI's generally been calm and collected and AD's been extremely emotional. My gut at the beginning of the day was to not believe IAI due to the absolute requirement of a framer in this setup for that to even be viable, and I don't see enough bad behavior from Dan to really change my mind here. Leaning like 65/35.

Some people seem WAY too sure it's one or the other, though.

[Aj The Epic]

Vifam has 628 posts. Does anyone know what he supports at this point?

He literally has about 1/7 of this game posted and I can't think of two things about him on his reads besides wanting currently to lynch AD.

[pirate mollie]

Mollie what are we doing here? Are we seriously going to table this issue today?

IAI's generally been calm and collected and AD's been extremely emotional. My gut at the beginning of the day was to not believe IAI due to the absolute requirement of a framer in this setup for that to even be viable, and I don't see enough bad behavior from Dan to really change my mind here. Leaning like 65/35.

Some people seem WAY too sure it's one or the other, though.

borky what do you think of the plan to lynch majiffy and then have IaI view uber?

[borkjerfkin]

Well, let's see:

1) If IAI is scum, you're just inviting more WIFOM from him.
2) If IAI is town, you're going to get a guilty result on Uber no matter what Uber actually is.

[pirate mollie]

yabbut you are missing the lulz we could gather from an uber viewed guilty meltdown when he is scum.

okay fine.

VOTE: IaI