NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[AngryPidgeon]

I assume everyone will be claiming Vanilla.

@Rev: Ugh, I really don't want to pick from that. But if I had to, I still don't want to.

Dan has been lurking his ass off, gets a guilty on him, and suddenly is posting up a storm? :/ Come on Dan, if you at least TRIED to be more pro-town before. But at the same token, I don't know. I really just want to go with my original gut Dan read of town.

And the thought of lynching a cop who crumbed and managed to snap claim it is ALSO upsetting to me. But less so than lynching Dan. So yep. I would probably lynch Majiffy if I had the choice.

[TheReverend]

Penguin, it's L-2 since mollie switched to IAI. I was going to hammer until mollie switched to IAI, I gave 12 hours notice and he's posted since, so I'm not concerned about a claim.

Ok so we have pidgeon, mollie and myself willing to lynch jiffy. Anyone else?

[penguin_alien]

I assume everyone will be claiming Vanilla.

Who's everyone? I was only checking about ActionDan.

Thanks for the vote count update. I'm more interested in resolving the ActionDan-IAI situation than lynching Majiffy. Even if I'm not 100% sure what resolution I favor. Lynching Majiffy gives us another day of IAI being forced to come up with an investigation, but I think everyone agrees there's guaranteed scum between IAI and ActionDan.

[borkjerfkin]

@Rev -- Yeah. Tomorrow.

Seriously you've got an expected value of like 1 and 1/3 scum between IAI and Dan and you want to not do that?

[UberNinja]

So you must be scum then ninja, because you insist I'm scum based on me having AJ as scum earlier and not now. Reads changing over time is a town tell in my experience. Be more worried about those who seem to remain fixated on the same people.

But no, ninja wants to press this as a huge scum tell. This is pushing for my mislynch. He thinks my awful ISO is going to make me an easy target. He might be right to be fair, but I'm pretty sure now that ninja is scum.

Note jiffy's post...

But if we lynch Rev and he flips scum, I will.

When I flip town, this kills the AJ link, right?

I've changed my mind. I think scum is IAI, jiffy, ninja and... drumroll please... AJ.

I fucked up calling him town and now the scum are trying to seize on it.

EXCELLENT

this is rich

[UberNinja]

Fine lets lynch AJ.

how the fuck are you getting "let's lynch AJ" from anything I just said

or anything anyone has said over the last two days

[UberNinja]

My current take on things:

Known town to all (in the interest of not skipping anything)
pirate mollie
Lord Mhork

Others:
Majiffy: leaning scum
ActionDan: scum
I Am Innocent: scum
AngryPidgeon: leaning town
Aj the Epic: leaning scum
borkjerfkin: null
TheReverend: leaning town
penguin_alien: town
UberNinja: town
Vifam: I don't even know

I just have the feeling that it's not an either/or thing with ActionDan and I Am Innocent unless there was a Framer. If I Am Innocent is scum and we're not at MyLo, it seems like he gets more mileage out of setting up a scum buddy. If he was scum who screwed over MattP yesterday, he'd have to figure there's a huge chance of him getting lynched today, which means that by being truthful about an 'investigation' result leaves a cleared townie behind. Calling a buddy scum means that his lynch leaves us thinking he was setting someone up for a fall, and that buddy being lynched restores our faith in IAI. I realize that this leaves me in the position of wanting both of them dead eventually, but lynching ActionDan first forces IAI to provide another investigation result.

I don't know where the vote count is, but given that there was discussion of a hammer, am I correct that no one's asked ActionDan for a claim?

both of them DO need to die

what do you think of my Rev/AJ pairing

[UberNinja]

Dan has been lurking his ass off, gets a guilty on him, and suddenly is posting up a storm? :/

ding ding ding

a winrar is you

And the thought of lynching a cop who crumbed and managed to snap claim it is ALSO upsetting to me. But less so than lynching Dan. So yep. I would probably lynch Majiffy if I had the choice.

AP

wat r u doin

AP

stahp

[UberNinja]

Penguin, it's L-2 since mollie switched to IAI. I was going to hammer until mollie switched to IAI, I gave 12 hours notice and he's posted since, so I'm not concerned about a claim.

Ok so we have pidgeon, mollie and myself willing to lynch jiffy. Anyone else?

that's the worst idea in the history of ALL TIME

-kanye west

[penguin_alien]

UberNinja, I follow your logic on TheReverend-AJ the Epic, but I have a niggling slight town read on TheReverend so I'm far less interested in stringing him up. It's not particularly well-supported, so if we end up nailing scum in AJ down the line I'd revisit, particularly depending on how AJ comes off in the intervening days.

[TheReverend]

...so if we end up nailing scum in AJ down the line I'd revisit, particularly depending on how AJ comes off in the intervening days.

I think this is the point, hence why I've moved to AJ scum with ninja. This seems really opportunistic of ninja, he's ignoring the point that town regularly changes reads and is persisting with the idea I'm scum simply because I've not been consistent with AJ. Do you think scum would wildly swing opinion like that? Especially regarding a scumbuddy? For those who note meta, you should worry a lot more about me if it seems like I'm checking my ISO to ensure consistency. It should be clear that I haven't been doing that this game.

[UberNinja]

Lynching Majiffy gives us another day of IAI being forced to come up with an investigation, but I think everyone agrees there's guaranteed scum between IAI and ActionDan.

you're assuming IAI is scum here

if IAI is town, and has just copped ActionDan legitimately, then scum will kill him, because they know they can't afford all of the associative results if they leave IAI alive until later only to be lynched for paranoia's sake, at which point he flips town and they are royally fucked because he's gotten results on the ones of them they didn't ALREADY EXPECT HIM TO TRY TO GET RESULTS ON

i.e. IAI made a bold move and investigated someone not in the "hey, inspect this guy" pool, and it paid off.

at least that's my opinion

[UberNinja]

UberNinja, I follow your logic on TheReverend-AJ the Epic, but I have a niggling slight town read on TheReverend so I'm far less interested in stringing him up. It's not particularly well-supported, so if we end up nailing scum in AJ down the line I'd revisit, particularly depending on how AJ comes off in the intervening days.

well everyone can't be scum

and everyone can't be town

and i've had a pretty decent town read on rev for most of today but then that all went into the gutter when he listed his "6 top scum reads" and none of them include a guy he's been calling scum ALL day, and has NEVER ONCE called town

it has nothing to do with how scummy AJ is, even though he's scummy

it has EVERYTHING to do with Rev being a lying sack of shit

[UberNinja]

I think this is the point, hence why I've moved to AJ scum with ninja.

HOW FUCKING CONVENIENT OF YOU

YOU NEVER EVEN "THOUGHT" HE WAS TOWN

UNTIL YOU FORGOT TO PUT HIM ON YOUR SCUM LIST

CAUGHT, FUCKER

This seems really opportunistic of ninja, he's ignoring the point that town regularly changes reads and is persisting with the idea I'm scum simply because I've not been consistent with AJ. Do you think scum would wildly swing opinion like that? Especially regarding a scumbuddy? For those who note meta, you should worry a lot more about me if it seems like I'm checking my ISO to ensure consistency. It should be clear that I haven't been doing that this game.

HERE LET ME DRINK SOME OF THAT WINE IN FRONT OF ME

WANT TO TRY SOME?

[TheReverend]

I kinda hope you are town ninja, just so you feel like an uber dick when you see my flip.

I haven't been calling AJ scum all day. I made one comment suggesting he was posturing. My scum reads on AJ are from way before today. I've been inconsistent with AJ because I'm town and I don't know his role, duh.

[pirate mollie]

i listed mollie as "probtown" instead of "town" because i copy pasted when creating my reads list instead of typing everything

that wasn't the slip

[AngryPidgeon]

Point it out for me?

[UberNinja]

i listed mollie as "probtown" instead of "town" because i copy pasted when creating my reads list instead of typing everything

that wasn't the slip

okay

well


don't keep us all guessing, what was it?

[UberNinja]

I kinda hope you are town ninja, just so you feel like an uber dick when you see my flip.

i am an uber dick either way

but thanks for betraying that you don't actually have a real scum read on me

I haven't been calling AJ scum all day. I made one comment suggesting he was posturing. My scum reads on AJ are from way before today. I've been inconsistent with AJ because I'm town and I don't know his role, duh.

ohhhh that makes PERFECT sense

so when exactly did he flip from being a scum read (all game) to a town read (all of a sudden, today)?

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, I ISO'd Dan a little. Not sure why I thought he was so town except maybe for sharing my reads.

If its him or IaI today, I'll probably vote him. Im thinking the scumteam is this:

Dan/IaI?
Majiffy
Bork
Rev/AJ?
Vifam

Very much want to see Bork and Majiffy die more than anything I think.

[UberNinja]

REV/AJ

FOR PREZ

SEE THE LIGHT

[Maestro]

VoteCount #5.03

I Am Innocent -

5

^L-2

borkjerfkin, ActionDan, Aj the Epic, pirate mollie, TheReverend
ActionDan -

5

^L-2

I Am Innocent, Vifam, UberNinja, Majiffy, Lord Mhork

With 12 alive it takes 7 to Lynch.

Not Voting:

AngryPidgeon, penguin_alien

Activity Overview:

Vifam is V/LA for (expired on 2013-03-04 18:56:00)

Deadline / Bankable Time:

(expired on 2013-03-06 16:32:00)

[AngryPidgeon]

OMG a vote count. And its tied at L - 2 with me and Penguin to sort it out.

Lets be super bedt friends for the next 24 hours and figure this shit out, Penguin.

[Maestro]

STFU about my VC regularity

I keel you

[penguin_alien]

I suppose I can be best friends with anyone for 24 hours. Assuming Maestro doesn't kill you in the meantime. Given that the conf-townies are split, that's not useful.

AngryPidgeon, how likely do you think it is that a) we're at MyLo and b) if IAI is scum he's throwing us one of his buddies?