NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[UberNinja]

also

[pirate mollie]

uber, you sound worried.

and I have had majiffy down as scum for quite some time now.

[UberNinja]

i'm not worried, i'm annoyed

[UberNinja]

and maybe that's the reason PV was killed over you

because they figured you were interchangeable and you didn't push lynches any harder than he did

which makes sense given that both majiffy and myself are still alive and we are your main scum reads

or am i just imagining things

[UberNinja]

also

[pirate mollie]

eta: what do you mean "rage"

you and majiffy keep saying I am angry and I promise you that I am not!

also, so I just want to be clear...you have a town read on majiffy?

and I agree if IaI is scum this was an awesome gambit.

xpost - there, there it will be okay. you should be annoyed with IaI cos he did view you like I asked him to!

xpost - I did push your lynches. I just don't have the cred or the charisma to get you guys lynched.

[pirate mollie]

also I thought I was kept alive cos I was hugely entertaining and likeable.

[UberNinja]

to be frank i do not have a town read on majiffy

but dan and possibly IAI are priority lynches

and yes you're entertaining and likeable, and if i was scum i could totally see myself saying you should be kept around for those reasons

if i WAS actually scum though i would have killed you off long ago
seeing as you've basically been trying to get me lynched all game

and PV was pretty much an empty suit so idk wtf was going on with that

unless scum are getting cocky and killing off useless ppl just for shits and giggles

[UberNinja]

there's probably a better reason though

such as:
who do you have a town read on, which you have defended? (who PV didn't/hadn't)

that would be a good reason to kill him over you, if it came down to brass tacks

[I Am Innocent]

something is bugging me...if IaI was so gung ho to listen to requests for views, why did he not listen to me when I asked him to view uber? I made several requests for uber to be viewed cos I don't think anybody except ap and I has the balls to lynch him, really. so his story does not quite add up.

At home now.

Here was my thoughts:

1) Matt's flip put one thought in my head. Bus Driver. I've never played with a framer before, but looking that up on wiki I agree that is also a possibility. With town's power, it does makes sense for one of these two to be in the game actually. I realize now that being obvious with the investigation target was not a good idea.

2) With #1 in mind, I wanted to stay away from the likely targets. I looked at D2 again, where AA9 was lynched, and found ActionDan not voting the entire day. His iso matches his predecessors, both as lurkers. That made me feel uneasy. Add in posts like 1217 "ArcAngel is incredibly town now.", I felt this was the best option as well as one of the least to get switched via a bus driver.

3) Got the investigation back, and saw I was still alive. That made me realize scum must think I would be the easy mislynch today. So I sat back, figuring most, but probably not all of the scum would come after me. My hope was AD would be the one who didn't, which would make catching the rest easier. But he was one of the ones pushing, so I came out immediately with my result at that point.

Those are my thoughts/reasons for doing what I've done. It is basically 1 vs 1 at this pt, if I go today, AD goes tomorrow. If AD goes today, I will be confirmed cop and def NK'd tonight. I do not foresee any add'l protective roles, but at least my death will keep the other confirmed townies alive another day.

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[AngryPidgeon]

i read AP as town too, and thought the exact same thing as soon as he flipped town

As soon as who flipped town?

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh Matt, Im an idiot. Im really behind, crap.

[pirate mollie]

I just iso-ed matt and I really feel like a dummy. we had the same reads but not at the same time and just could not sync up.

guyz, I am telling you majiffy is scum. I think he and uber are scummates they are both dropping a ton of associative tells like omg. I am really torn on IaI but it fits. if I had my way I would say we lynch majiffy today but it probably isn't going to happen. in micro medical mafia I had him early on d1 but got talked out of it despite leading a sizable lynch just people fell into the whole "majiffy is town" spell that he creates.

[UberNinja]

Majiffy is a powerful wizard

You are all under his spells

[UberNinja]

mollie, re:Dan/IAI:

sup

[TheReverend]

Let's do it. Oh my god this will be really fucking amazing. Please let's do it.

VOTE: majiffy

[TheReverend]

Seriously though, maybe we should do this now while we have mollie's vote. The dan/IAI thing can wait for another day. If he's cop, it gives scum a choice between him and mollie. They should kill the cop, because otherwise they give town more confirmed info. So if mollie dies instead, we can trust IAI even less. But if IAI dies, we know dan is probably scum. Sure there's room for WIFOM, but worst case scenario is we get an extra cleared townie.

Wagon majiffy guys. We have a confirmed townie who has extensive history with jiffy claiming soulread.

[TheReverend]

Oh wait, worst case scenario is jiffy is town and so are both dan and IAI. That would be epically bad. If that's how it is, fuck this game.

[UberNinja]

Let's do it. Oh my god this will be really fucking amazing. Please let's do it.

VOTE: majiffy

yes, let's completely ignore this good cop/fake cop situation and lynch somebody entirely uninvolved

[UberNinja]

that is THE BEST idea i've heard all game

THE best

[TheReverend]

The dan/IAI thing can wait for another day. If he's cop, it gives scum a choice between him and mollie. They should kill the cop, because otherwise they give town more confirmed info. So if mollie dies instead, we can trust IAI even less. But if IAI dies, we know dan is probably scum. Sure there's room for WIFOM, but worst case scenario is we get an extra cleared townie.

I think uberninja has a distorted view of the term "completely ignore".

[TheReverend]

So yeah, fuck ninja, anyone town wanna lynch jiffy? Feels like a better idea already.

[UberNinja]

to not lynch one of them IS to completely ignore it, no matter what comments you make on it

i am literally at a loss as to what is fucking at all hard to understand about that to you

[UberNinja]

herp derp

has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[borkjerfkin]

We've got nigh guaranteed scum between IAI/Dan -- even if a framer DOES exist. Those are pretty damn good odds. I'm with Uber here, I mean look at the options:

1) IAI is scum trying to get us to mislynch Dan
2) IAI is scum bussing Dan for cop cred
3) IAI is town and this report is legit
4) IAI is town and Dan is town and was framed.

I don't put much stock in 4 -- it requires that a framer both exist AND have hit twice successfully. So lynching between these two is correct play.