Diffusion of Power (Open 478) over

[Wisdom]

Good. And now you should unvote her too so she goes at L-2. And vote D_O while you're at it.

[mcqueen]

No.

[Wisdom]

So you still want to lynch a N1 doctor?

[mcqueen]

Its funny how wisdom sits on ms 24/7

Lmao

[Wisdom]

Dodging the question?

[mcqueen]

No?^

[Wisdom]

Then answer it ^^

[CF Riot]

I would be fine lynching a N1 doc if that helps. Better than a N* cop and since she's outted she's pretty useless anyways AND you're assuming she's not scum AND if we string up someone else and mislynch it's still going to be a PR. Her claiming doc really shouldn't affect the wagon at all.

[Wisdom]

The problem is, mcqueen finds her town. This means he believes her claim. This means he's fine lynching a N1 doctor.
Get it?

[Kmd4390]

Rach, I think you are a smart enough player to not fakeclaim a role that doesn't exist in the game, so you claiming a power role is null. Your trying to appeal to a self-meta tell isn't quite as null

[RachMarie]

How am I useless CF? Tonight either the scum kill me saving a Townie who has not yet used their one shot power (OR) I protect the target and that also saves a Townie to do their one shot power later. The worst case scenario is I pick the wrong person to protect. Tonight is the only time I am useful, after that I am nothing more than a VT.

You need to do better than that.

Wisdom is right McQueen if you think I am Town WTF are you doing on my wagon? Why are you not pushing the wagon you support on someone you suspect is scum? We have 3 viable wagons atm... So worrying about NL is not enough. Out of the 3 wagons (Wisdom, DO, and myself) who do you find the scummiest and why? The 2nd scummiest and why, and finally 3rd on the list and why?

[Mitillos]

@Wisdom: Posts like 438, 441, 515. Also, his general lack of participation. Also, what exactly is your case on D_O? All I remember you saying was that you prefer lynching him, instead of HD. Just a quick summary will do.

@Rach: I played two games with Siv. He was town in both. He was very much not like this.

[Wisdom]

You dodged what I asked you though. Why do you think Siv couldn't have been a N1 doc?

[Wisdom]

Oh, nevermind, misread that.

[Wisdom]

Yeah, his general lack of participation means nothing. As I said, the fact that he replaced out means he wasn't interested or he wasn't able to catch up. Those posts you talk about also show this. They in no way indicate that he couldn't be a doc.

[Mitillos]

@Wisdom: The thing is, I'd expect a D1 PR to be more interested with the game. His power is an early one. He only needs to survive one day and one night to have used it, hopefully effectively. I'd expect least interested town to be D5 PRs, who are almost certainly not going to be able to make a difference. Also, it's not just Siv being a doctor There's also his opportunistic votes. And after that, Rach hasn't helped things much. For example, she claimed long before she needed to and gave links to prove that "she's often an easy lynch" as she put it, when no one asked for them. Also, this bit: "Keep an eye on them Wisdom... " in 1096. Little bits like buddying. Stuff like that.

So, how about that case?

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Rach's entire defense comes down to three points;
1) Siv's gameplay is null!
2) I don't fakeclaim PRs!
3) Why would I fakeclaim a Night ONE doctor?!

to which I respond
1) Great. Null does not a town make.
2) N/A
3) Because then you can't be directed or otherwise tripped up later in the game. For all intents and purposes, you're claiming a D2+ VT. It makes the

most

sense as a scum claim.

Also the blatant switch from a town read to a scum read for - what reason? - on our slot is utter OMGUS garbage.

tl;dr - If you're not voting Rach, you really ought to be.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Oh and if we have any N1 cops they should be on any number of the following participants;
{Disturbed, Mcqueen, Jalyn}

Good day.

[Wisdom]

@Mitillos
Misreps, excessive tunneling beyond what I consider limits, which notably started after HD already was going after me, so it was easy for scum to get behind it, insistence on silly points such as "mollie is unreadable" only to withdraw from them once more people started calling bullshit on them, and generally he is the scummiest right now for me.

[Wisdom]

@B&B
Like with the slimer vote, Rach couldn't possibly expect the town to suddenly agree to form a B&B wagon. The only scum motivation I can see with it is to prove she's town because scum wouldn't do that, otherwise it's a townie action. Don't forget she unvoted D_O in order to do that, her main counterwagon.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

The only scum motivation I can see with it is to prove she's town because scum wouldn't do that, otherwise it's a townie action. Don't forget she unvoted D_O in order to do that, her main counterwagon.

Really? You're going to WIFOM the thread up now too? All Rach has for a defense so far is WIFOM; why wouldn't she just layer it on even more? This point doesn't help her, or support your cause of lynching DO over Rach - if anything, it strengthens why we should lynch her.

[Wisdom]

Exactly what more defense do you expect than what she already has given? Why is it WIFOM?

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Well in the words of the Good Doctor Thompson, "When you get locked into a serious [WIFOM defense], the tendency is to push it as far as you can..."

What is the "it" in your question referring to? Pronouns bad!

[Wisdom]

The defence - why is WIFOM?

[Wisdom]

is it*