Diffusion of Power (Open 478) over

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Vote Count 1.14

Disturbed_One

( 1 ) BeautyAndTheBeast

Mitillos

( 0 )

kmd4390

( 0 )

Siveure DtTrikyp

( 2 ) zabriel , kmd4390

ProHawk

( 1 ) theslimer3

mcqueen

( 4 ) Siveure DtTrikyp , mcqueen , Wisdom , Disturbed_One 

theslimer3

( 0 )

BeautyAndTheBeast

( 0 )

Wisdom

( 2 ) Human Destroyer , ProHawk

zabriel

( 0 )

CF Riot

( 1 ) The Puck

The Puck

( 0 )

Human Destroyer

( 1 ) Mitillos

Not voting:

CF Riot

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-02-28 20:30:20)

zabriel is V/LA until 28th of Feb

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I don't see that as town flailing. It looks like an act.

okay wisdom is scum

[Wisdom]

And your hydra partner who agrees with me is also scum?

[CF Riot]

Someone other than D_O tell me why I should have a townread on HD.

[Disturbed_One]

Show me quotes regarding 1 and 2. I'm asking you to evince your statements, you don't respond by saying "god ur lazy y dont u go look".

And you made a meta argument in regards to a disparity you perceived. If you don't see why I'd be more or less lazy based on alignment, why bring up the meta argument to begin with?

I might be more inclined to respond in the normal fashion, were I not being condescendingly reminded to read the thread, when that's what I've been fucking doing this whole game.

Regarding Mollie, it's been proven she's readable. I don't really have anything to prove, I'm just explaining how I wasn't sucking up. Perhaps this has put you under the impression that I have a quarrel with Mollie, I do not. Even if her recent vote is terrible, she's not a scum read for me.

You know that I stated fuzzy and mcqueen as scum reads, seeing as you felt it necessary to lecture me. If you want reasoning for that, I won't deny you of it.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4731104

^ That sums up my thoughts about the slot.

The meta argument was really in reply to your snide remark of how you presumed I didn't read the thread. My argument for why I found you scummy was that I felt your reasoning regarding Wisdom didn't seem very genuine. I don't really wish to pursue the point further for now, but that doesn't mean I'm writing you off as town just yet, either.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

erm, wrt bold

I said hd's argument was dumb, not him, especially since he had a baseline for play in a game where he lynched me as scum. I dispelled this argument already, which you ignored but only to bring it back up and push it? freaking A, lol

why can we not lynch DO right now

VOTE: DO
-mollie

That doesn't at all address my accusation, actually, or the point behind it.

Instead of actually making arguments, you dismiss arguments and call them "dumb" and use that as your only evidence for their dismissal.

Also, you want to lynch me based on that? You've got to be kidding me.

Explain how I'm "pushing" anything. Am I voting you? No, I'm not. To be fair, I can see the difference between you calling a player dumb and calling an argument dumb. But that difference isn't great enough to seriously accuse me over it.

Your logic doesn't even make sense here. Do you think I'm deliberately misrepresenting you or something?

wrt the bold

1. erm, no. you just didn't address it. what hd was saying what was scummy about my posting was not beyond his sphere of reference to my actual scumplay. I called that dumb cos he actually has a point of reference.

wrt evething else

2. yes, I want to lynch you.

3. you don't have to place a vote in order to push for a "scumread" later in the game. scum can breadcrumb for later reads and follow the argument for consistency. it is how scum can mask as town. from my perspective, this is what you are doing.

4. my logic makes great sense when you can determine an alignment from their POV. sorry that you have epically failed in this.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I might be more inclined to respond in the normal fashion, were I not being condescendingly reminded to read the thread, when that's what I've been fucking doing this whole game.

I'd be more inclined to not be condescending if you weren't an idiot.

Regarding Mollie, it's been proven she's readable. I don't really have anything to prove, I'm just explaining how I wasn't sucking up. Perhaps this has put you under the impression that I have a quarrel with Mollie, I do not. Even if her recent vote is terrible, she's not a scum read for me.

You're retroactively trying to cover up with this. At the time of the sucking-up-in-question, you were still harping on the PL-Mollie-for-insults case.

The meta argument was really in reply to your snide remark of how you presumed I didn't read the thread. My argument for why I found you scummy was that I felt your reasoning regarding Wisdom didn't seem very genuine. I don't really wish to pursue the point further for now, but that doesn't mean I'm writing you off as town just yet, either.

Didn't seem genuine? I don't recall you saying anything about genuinity before... pretty sure it was "lol that's all? last time when u wer da scumz it was lyke pages to mislynch me!"

By the by, you haven't actually addressed the following disparities in these two situations;
1) You're calling me scum for not doing something I did as scum
2) Your argument about what I should be doing references an attempt to lynch; my situation with Wisdom is merely stating reasons for a

town read

. Thus, they're two wholly different situations entirely.

I don't think you want to pursue the point

because you don't have one

, and you're slowly starting to realize that.

Someone other than D_O tell me why I should have a townread on HD.

He believes

too

strongly in his really poor logic.

[Disturbed_One]

wrt the bold

1. erm, no. you just didn't address it. what hd was saying what was scummy about my posting was not beyond his sphere of reference to my actual scumplay. I called that dumb cos he actually has a point of reference.

wrt evething else

2. yes, I want to lynch you.

3. you don't have to place a vote in order to push for a "scumread" later in the game. scum can breadcrumb for later reads and follow the argument for consistency. it is how scum can mask as town. from my perspective, this is what you are doing.

4. my logic makes great sense when you can determine an alignment from their POV. sorry that you have epically failed in this.

I don't know what "wrt" means, if you're looking for a response based on that, you will need to elaborate.

1. If this is a meta issue, I don't normally play by meta. (Though this game has forced me to make some meta arguments.) I don't really understand your point here. I think you're saying you're using your own meta to rebuke HD's point. Do I understand that correctly?

2. Then you are either a completely irrational person or scum. What you're saying doesn't add up, there's no logic behind lynching me based on your reasoning.

3. Prove it.

4. Maybe I have epically failed. But that doesn't make scum.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

With regards to.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I invite the townies to hop on the D_O wagon.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I don't know what "wrt" means, if you're looking for a response based on that, you will need to elaborate.

1. If this is a meta issue, I don't normally play by meta. (Though this game has forced me to make some meta arguments.) I don't really understand your point here. I think you're saying you're using your own meta to rebuke HD's point. Do I understand that correctly?

okay well weird. cos I thought you were asking other players if they had meta on me as being readable. and on slimer too.

2. Then you are either a completely irrational person or scum. What you're saying doesn't add up, there's no logic behind lynching me based on your reasoning.

^^^hd partner spotted

3. Prove it.

4. Maybe I have epically failed. But that doesn't make scum.

I love you people.

that was a serious post btw.

[Disturbed_One]

If this is going to come down to personal attacks, I don't want to play this game anymore. It's not fun for me. I've had enough of Majiffy's attitude, I don't deserve to be lectured or have my intelligence insulted.

@ Mod: please replace me. I'm sorry to bail on you like so many others, but I just do not feel comfortable playing this game anymore.

[Wisdom]

WTF with the replacements? This is not fucking kindergarten, learn to be tolerant of others.

[pirate mollie]

majiffy be nice

[ProHawk]

Mollie - I agree with Wisdom re: mcqueen, particularly since he ramped up his VI-posting after I said some of his actions gave me pause as to my scumread on his slot.

You both are doing a piss poor job at being a hydra. I feel like I am playing a game with mollie and Majiffy, when I should be playing a game with BeautyAndTheBeast. Make your decisions and comments to each-other outside of the thread so that we can actually read one collective unit instead of two conflicting heads this whole game. KThx.

D_O, I know you probably feel alone when arguing with Majiffy, but all you really have to do is just ignore Majiffy's dumb insults and life goes back to normal. If it makes you feel any better, I would like you to stick around.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

If this is going to come down to personal attacks, I don't want to play this game anymore. It's not fun for me. I've had enough of Majiffy's attitude, I don't deserve to be lectured or have my intelligence insulted.

@ Mod: please replace me. I'm sorry to bail on you like so many others, but I just do not feel comfortable playing this game anymore.

I accept your scum claim.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Majiffy's dumb insults

Hey, man, that's not nice. My insults are witty and sharp-tongued.

[Wisdom]

inb4 people want to policy lynch Majiffy because he insults

[zabriel]

I didn't think Majiffy was being that bad. Sidenote: I keep shortening your name to B&B, but then I just think Bed and Breakfast. Mollie is Bed, Majiffy is Breakfast. So sayeth the Zabriel.

UNVOTE: Siv

Stop replacing out. It's harder to read when you guys replace out.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Won't happen, Wisdom. I'll demean everyone voting me until they shuffle off to someone else. How do you think I win as scum all the time?

Zab - I wasn't being that bad. He's replacing out because he's been backed into a corner that he can't argue out of.

[CF Riot]

Prohawk say something game related. You still about the Wisdom wagon? Should I sheep Majiffy and vote D_O?

[Disturbed_One]

Actually, Prohawk has convinced me.

@ Mod: Please disregard my request for replacement, I have thought about it and I'm willing to stick with this.

[Disturbed_One]

No post forthcoming tonight, I think I need to take a breather. I'll try and post something tomorrow.

[Majiffy]

Aww, I had such a good post about butthurt lined up, too.

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