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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:00 pm

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IH wrote:Perhaps Bird1111 also has info on himself?

Also, Canuckle, welcome to the Ether-wagon?
Uhh, thanks? LOL. Since all these first round votes are totally random, it appeared Ether was the one people were piling on.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:18 pm

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Hey Canuckle, why exactly are you voting Ether?
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:33 pm

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Because first round votes are completely random. I'm new to this forum, so I have no "oh, I want to get him back for a previous game" excuses. I made a random vote for you earlier, then saw that the voting bandwagon was heaping up on Ether, and decided to hope on board since he was the popular vote.

Was everyone else not voting random on Ether?
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:53 pm

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Just wondering if it was for the popular vote or for sake of seeing a response from her.

unvote, vote Canucklehead
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:58 pm

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It would be a brilliant play as mafia, but Canucklehead has invoked the "new player townie tell." I will not be voting for him anytime soon.

FOS: IH

I find Canucklehead's explanation to be very good, you don't, I take it?
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:01 pm

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Just wondering if it was for the popular vote
or for sake of seeing a response from her.
What kind of response would I be looking for?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:10 pm

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Nah, I see a day 1 bandwagon as a way to see, well... a reaction. It doesn't usually work, but sometimes a scum will slip up and over react to being closer to a lynch, like they've accidentally given something off.

I don't think Ether's really responded to the largest part of the bandwagon, so either she's waiting it out, or hasn't been checking in (probably the last one because of her school play)

Also, why else would you be on a bandwagon luckayluck? Also, Canuckle may be new, but I think it's as good a reason as any to change my vote this early.

Since there's so much content here.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:03 pm

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IH, without going into a somewhat telling explanation, I believe that it is ideal strategy for this particular situation to assume that Canuckle is a townie.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:18 pm

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VOTE CANUCKLE


I've already been over this! Ether is a she!

But I think Canuckle's town. Although the popular wagon is not always the best wagon.

LL: Why is it ideal to assume he is town?

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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:53 pm

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Save The Dragons wrote:But I think Canuckle's town. Although the popular wagon is not always the best wagon.

LL: Why is it ideal to assume he is town?
I will give you 2 of the 3 reasons why it is ideal to assume he is town:

1) Because I think he is town. (You think he's town too.)
2) Because assuming that he's town means that I don't have to worry about him being a mafia. (Trust me, I know this comment looks incredibly stupid, but it's very nice having somebody that you can 100% trust as townie, either while mistaken or not)
3) ???? (I don't want to reveal this one.)
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:30 am

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Because first round votes are completely random.
I'm new to this forum, so I have no "oh, I want to get him back for a previous game" excuses. I made a random vote for you earlier, then
saw that the voting bandwagon was heaping up on Ether, and decided to hope on board since
he was the popular vote.

So... not random, then.
Unvote: Ether, vote: Canucklehead.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:41 am

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Which is exactly as I saw it SS = D
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:47 am

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LuckayLuck wrote:
Save The Dragons wrote:But I think Canuckle's town. Although the popular wagon is not always the best wagon.

LL: Why is it ideal to assume he is town?
I will give you 2 of the 3 reasons why it is ideal to assume he is town:

1) Because I think he is town. (You think he's town too.)
2) Because assuming that he's town means that I don't have to worry about him being a mafia. (Trust me, I know this comment looks incredibly stupid, but it's very nice having somebody that you can 100% trust as townie, either while mistaken or not)
3) ???? (I don't want to reveal this one.)
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Because first round votes are completely random
. I'm new to this forum, so I have no "oh, I want to get him back for a previous game" excuses.
I made a random vote for you earlier, then saw that the voting bandwagon was heaping up on Ether, and decided to hope on board since
he was the popular vote.
So... not random, then.
Unvote: Ether, vote: Canucklehead
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:48 am

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LuckayLuck wrote:Because assuming that he's town means that I don't have to worry about him being a mafia. (Trust me, I know this comment looks incredibly stupid, but it's very nice having somebody that you can 100% trust as townie, either while mistaken or not)
That's a dangerous assumption. There are three ways to have a 100% trust as a townie.

Being scum in a vanilla game.
Being a townie mason with said person.
Having a cop investigation on them.

At the moment, I don't believe any of the three are true.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:08 am

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FOS: IH

I don't know which one is worse, yours or TSS's blatant fishing.

Luckayluck clearly has information. Probably not the best move, but demanding the exact details will only ensure that it is not worth the damage.

Move on.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:23 am

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LuckayLuck wrote:1) Because I think he is town. (You think he's town too.)
I do think he's town. But telling everyone else to assume so says something else entirely than "I think he's town."
LuckayLuck wrote:2) Because assuming that he's town means that I don't have to worry about him being a mafia. (Trust me, I know this comment looks incredibly stupid, but it's very nice having somebody that you can 100% trust as townie, either while mistaken or not)
No one is 100% until they are dead.
LuckayLuck wrote:3) ???? (I don't want to reveal this one.)
Annoncing you have information is dangerous. If you die, it dies with you. hmmm. Keep it safe for now.

Then people started voting canuckle and tried to figure this out. Perhaps they can't read?

Vote: IH
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:38 am

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LL, thanks for the defense thus far. I hope you won't think less of me, but seeing as mafia is a game of suspicion...

I suspect I may be getting set up. Let's say, theoretically, that you're scum. It would be a sneaky strategy if you were to protect me all day from IH, and then kill off IH tonight. Suddenly, tomorrow, people are thinking the new guy slipped up and killed off the main guy accusing him. So there I go.

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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:57 am

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I got the impression that LuckayLuck's third reason was based off of a newbie protown tell that he uses. (I could be wrong, of course.) I can't assess LL's particular tell, since I don't know what it is, but I do believe that there is a "typical protown newbie behavior", and what little I've seen of Canuckle's play fits in with that.

Obviously, further posts by Canuckle will allow us to better assess his protownness or scumminess.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:00 am

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unvote, vote: IH


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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:19 am

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Thok: you may or may not be correct. Either way though, you're sharp.
Canucklehead: FoSing me makes me think more of you. Good work. :p

Silentspeaker: what I can't stand is how you managed to vote for Canucklehead with a completely straight face while completely ignoring my defense of him.

unvote, vote Silentspeaker
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:32 am

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Unvote


Unlike everyone else, I don't see "fishing" as inherently scummy, so I'm not voting anyone for that. I will do this, however...

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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:43 am

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1.@ Nightson:How have I been fishing? By helping to generate discussion?

2.@ Mariyta:I agree that fishing isn't that scummy.

3.@LuckayLuck:How can someone have a straight face in a game of online Mafia? Besides, your defense wasn't that great IMO, because I largely do not believe in Townie tells.
Also, it could be noted that you have been protecting Canuckle.

4.@Canuckle:Hmm, I'm not sure about you're theory. I'm wanting to think that you're trying to distance yourself from LuckayLuck.

5.@LuckayLuck again:Your respect for him goes up for the FoS? So are you really setting him up?

6.@STD: Any reason why you changed from me to SS?
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:49 pm

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Fishing? I bolded two comments of Canucklehead that seem directly contradictory, and voted on those grounds.

And LuckayLuck, from what I can tell your defense amounts to "I assume he's town, for no reason other than it provides me with a starting point." Care to explain why I should give that any weight at all?
I think it's pretty clear that TSS's awesomeness did alter the roles each of us recieved, and thus he's obviously pro-town. -- Save The Dragons
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:32 pm

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Jelly, STD and Glork shall receive nice fruit baskets.

I dislike the "But it's the hot new wagon!" style of thinking, but not enough to not humor Luckay. TSS, what do you think of those implications of his?

IH, what
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you trying to say in post 71? "Luckay, I think you're implying a power role to protect Canuckle because you're scumbuddies. Canuckle, I think you're scumbuddies with Luckay and trying to distance yourself even though Luckay's clearly doing the exact opposite. Luckay, I think you're getting ready to bus Canuckle now even though you protected him only a few posts before." I don't understand your train of thought at all; please articulate.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:03 pm

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the silent speaker wrote:And LuckayLuck, from what I can tell your defense amounts to "I assume he's town, for no reason other than it provides me with a starting point." Care to explain why I should give that any weight at all?
I'm going to also assume that Ether is town now.
Eventually, with enough assumptions of townies, I will be able to death star a mafia.
You may or may not buy into my methods, but it doesn't really matter to any of us unless Canuckle or Ether are in danger of being lynched. At that point in time, I will rain down divine righteous blades of fury at the mafia.

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