Diffusion of Power (Open 478) over

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/confirm

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VOTE: Tigerzone

Tigerzone is a terribad player who needs to die.

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Fuck you tigerzone.

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Wisdom, you aren't talking about on-going games are you?

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Not my fault that games have a habit of exploding while I'm asleep.

Fair warning, I'm sending my laptop in for some repairs soon, so I'm going to be on the desktop when that happens. I dislike the desktop.

PEdit: That's one of those things that town thinks but doesn't say out loud because it goes without saying. Saying it out loud just makes you look overcautious Fuzzy. Especially at L-5.

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If anybody needs to be policy lynched it's tigerzone. That's all I can say without breaking site rules.

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Tigerzone's meta is anti-town. I'm eager for us to stop being in the same game.

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Why are you assuming that tigerzone isn't just a stupid asshat Wisdom?

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I don't think Tiger has any finished games yet. Meta is going to be hard to talk about.

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There's a first time for everything slimer, and it's usually painful.

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LAL GOOO

Or not. I'm comfortable where I am.

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Real talk. I will never be able to form a read of tiger that isn't "why is he being allowed to live?".

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You know exactly why my vote went on in the first place. Given what I know of his play I know that I'm not going to be able to tell the difference between town and scum tiger. I'm going to want this all game, so until he's out of this game one way or another I'm going to keep coming back to it.

PEdit:

All cop and doctor powers will only work on one randomly assigned night (between 1 and 5).

(There may be doubles of any night/power combo.)

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Willing to agree on fuzzy. I still think your vote on HD is bad. I've seen you call people probtown for agreeing with bad ideas in other games, so why is HD not seeing how bad this plan was not a towntell?

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VOTE: prohawk

this is a serious vote, lol

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Not anti-town to park a vote on somebody that's anti-town by admission.

PEdit: I'm being active in most of my on-going games right now. I paused my DS9 marathon and now I'm responding to games as they update.

Wanna know something even scarier? I'm still sober.

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You really just want me to sheep your HD case don't you?

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@Prohawk - I think you're reaching here. Why would somebody pretend to not know where their vote is?

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Actually a better question is, why would a person really not know who their vote is on?

And why would scum make a post saying "I don't know where my vote is"?

People forget shit all the time. The difference here is that Mollie was too lazy to read back. Is scum-Mollie a lazy sack?

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@PetroleumJelly - You're probably right. I just think it should be tiger since he came here just to troll me. If he replaces out I'll give his replacement a fair shake.

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I find it interesting that you like a push on you.

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This is an interesting turn.

@Mod - would you consider force-replacing tiger given the increased outcry?

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D_O posted complete reads, a vote, and responded to a really shitty associative push by The Puck before HD made his post. That's more content than some of us have produced this game. I thought there was enough content for somebody who trusts meta to start forming a read. I'm actually a little troubled by how bothered Fuzzy seems by this.

PEdit: Are you anti-meta or did I miss something fuzzy?

PEdit: Slow down!

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If Mollie flips town is Wisdom White Knighting?

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Welcome to debate club. Seriously right now.

VOTE: HD

Quit being a lazy ass.

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@HD - would you say that if she'd talked about lynching Tigerzone instead of you?

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That was unexpected. Mind explaining that one Mollie?

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If were going after lurkers I'm going to recommend starting with The Puck.

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VOTE: The Puck

I was more bothered by the awful associative push on PJ.

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V/LA is starting early. I just dropped my laptop and it got very unlucky in the fall. I am taking it to be serviced tomorrow and will be on the desktop until it is fixed.

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Well, that's a bit of a silver lining.

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I was unaware that null reads constituted defense. Are you sure it doesn't just look that way because you had tiger and mollie as scummy?

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I'm guessing that Majiffy is "Beauty" in this hydra?

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And yes, that was mostly to D_O, but anybody can have it.

The Puck needs more votes.

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I'm on The Puck because he's got no content except for a bad push and a questionable vote. This is the most solid thing I've felt all day.

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Why is everybody replacing? You bastards are easier to read when you play the whole game.

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Mollie's been correctly lynched as scum before. This is getting silly.

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The first game that I noticed was http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=275

I read the notes and up to when people started to get suspicious of Mollie. Maybe it was just knowing she'd flip scum, but I felt she was fairly obv in Zombie Attack.

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@Beast - Why HD over DO?

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Slimer, that's not a post that's a PM.

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I do like how he said he wasn't planning on posting any content. Feeling detached Siv?

VOTE: Siv

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What are you trying to prove here McQueen?

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Can we stop letting VI be an acceptable meta? Please?

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@kmd - I cannot tell you about tigerzone until a particular game ends.

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Wisdom, I don't recall you stating a town read on tiger.

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I dunno, there's always those 4-6 cop investigations we have. One of those could probably tell an alignment pretty easily.

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@CF - So out of (theslimer3, Human Destroyer, pirate mollie, ProHawk) who do you think is the scummiest?

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You said vote 1.6, that's what the Wisdom wagon was at the time.

I like Wisdom for town. The Puck and Siv look the most objectively scummy to me. I disagree with the argument that DO and HD are making, but I can still see it coming from stubborn town.

McQueen is bugging me. I've seen Village Idiots do this often enough, but VI isn't exactly hard to fake. So, I guess, 'how dumb is McQueen really?', is the question of the day.

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Maybe that just means McQueen is that much more conf-scum. Sadly, that's not the worst derp I've ever seen.

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Self-voting pisses me off except in very certain circumstances, which are generally limited to scum self-hammers. Self-votes are basically the purview of emotional newbies and scum who want to look like emotional newbies.

@Wisdom - What did you and what do you now think of Fuzzy? How does this impact your view of McQueen?

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I agree with your thought process, but this is starting to feel like [On-going game].

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@Mod - Siv is due for a prod and The Puck will be due for a prod in about an hour.

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I didn't think Majiffy was being that bad. Sidenote: I keep shortening your name to B&B, but then I just think Bed and Breakfast. Mollie is Bed, Majiffy is Breakfast. So sayeth the Zabriel.

UNVOTE: Siv

Stop replacing out. It's harder to read when you guys replace out.

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Compiling what they've got would mean that he doesn't have to do any legwork.

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Why KMD over the rest of the lurksacks ProHawk?

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@Prohawk - Thanks. Yeah, that makes sense.

The Puck has one post with any content. His one post with content looks fake and opportunistic.

DO keeps pushing this bad case on Wisdom, and it's really gotten past the point where I'm thinking stubborn town.

Mitillos. The whole "I watched this one Newbie game where HD was scum, so I think he's scum here too" was pretty bad. He also kind of overstated how bad a policy lynch would be.

But don't you think that Siv's been too quiet to be scum, rather than null?

Non-controversial targets are non-controversial because they are obv.scum. Otherwise they would be controversial.

Basically everything Prohawk said about KMD. Also:

In post 610, Kmd4390 wrote:
The last time I played with prohawk, he looked obvtown (although some people disagreed). He doesn't look that way here.

Srsly kmd?

McQueen. If we can't agree on anything else, I've got enough paranoia that he might be overdoing the VI thing to vote this.

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Thoughts about the game KMD?

@Slimer - You make an impression on me.

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@Mitillos - Where did Siv become obvscum? When you admitted that B&B had a point you also expressed a worry that he might just be uninterested town.

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@Rach - Do you have trouble replacing into games without attracting a wagon?
@Wisdom - wasn't a good part of the case on McQueen that he was faking VI? Why did him implying daytalk make him seem less scummy with that in mind.

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Rach stepped up her play a little bit after the claim, and the fact that she's claimed to be tonight's doctor has got me feeling less inclined to join the Rach wagon. Still scummy, but looking better than before.

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VOTE: DO

I'd really rather not risk having no protection tonight. I feel pretty okay about the case on DO. I can do this or Mitillos today.

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Oh sweet god, that damn game is finally over.

Micro 118 for anybody interested in the history between tiger and myself.

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@B&B - all good points on Rach. I guess stepping up your game and claiming something urgent would be what you'd want to do to get town off your back.

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Intent to hammer. Is there anything left for us to get done today?

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The claim had troubled me. She was reading scummy to me before the claim though (the vote on slimer and the fluffing stick out the most right now) and B&B's points make a lot of sense. I can see her claim being one scum might make.

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I've got fresh memories of RachScum making an absurd amount of IC-hat comments in a newbie game we were in together. I trust Rach less when she fluffs.

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Doc might as well be VT when all you've got is Cop and Doc to choose from.

McQueen's vote bothers me too actually. I dislike when people vote for people they claim to have town reads on.

PEdit: No, that game is over isn't it?

I'll go flip through some of her town games to see. Rach, do you have any more games you replaced into you can share?

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Wait, you were MZB in Author weren't you?

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Could have sworn that game was over.

Yeah, nevermind then. I'm just remembering the whole "God is sexist" thing from Author.

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Well, that's what you get from somebody who writes in out-of-context Bible quotes.

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VOTE: Chkflip

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@McQueen

The 10 town players may be split 3 ways: 4 cops and 6 doctors; 5 cops and 5 doctors; or 6 cops and 4 doctors. The mafia will be told which powers are in the game, but not who holds each power or which nights they work.

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I don't think Mitillos is to blame for McQueen deciding to drop the hammer.

I'm getting really tired of McQueen's VI antics. That hammer was terrible, and I think it's time for this to happen.

VOTE: McQueen

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UNVOTE: McQueen
VOTE: KMD

KMD's vote looks opportunistic and Prohawk is making a good case.

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@CF - What makes Mitillos a better lynch than your other scum reads right now?

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Well, breaking into song is always convincing.

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Why was it necessary to bring Rach into it at all?

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Your point was that you were trying to softclaim N3 Doctor? The game is repeating itself and all that?

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Wait.

Jalyn has to be scum unless:
A) all three scum can be found in the mislynch wagons (unlikely)
B) CF is scum who lied about clearing mcqueen (still possible, but it's early enough not to worry about that chance)

unvote, vote jalyn

This analysis?

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Because I totally didn't have grounds and day 1 stuff I could have used to vote Mit back when the opinion was "come on, kmd isn't happening".

VOTE: HD

Go read the game again and place a non-sheep vote.

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Yes. I am of course HD's scum partner and I'm bussing him in order to reduce our numbers to one and WIFOM the shit out of this game, after already bussing one partner. Congratulations on seeing through our clever ruse.

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I'm not sure why I needed to respond to kmd. He was scum and we lynched him.

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Jalyn brought up kmd's "faulty analysis" and when defending himself he seemed to be referring to something differently than what I felt was what Jalyn was clearly referring to. Context is key.

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My activity is down all across the site. I'm kind of bored of forum mafia. I'm going on hiatus when I finish my current games.

@Mit - That's about as heavy as my defense ever gets. I'm well known for giving no fucks.

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@HD - Your reason for voting me was "I'm a big dumb idiot. Imma just sheep." I feel okay about voting you for voting reasons.

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Overlap is a possibility, but the field is narrowing, so Prohawk is probably right about Mitt/Jalyn by sheer probability.

[zabriel]

I'm going on site hiatus after I finish my current games. I'm getting burnt out on mafia. If you don't see me in post, you'll know why.

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Am I lurking worse or are the prods getting faster?

My head isn't in this game at all

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The one thing bugging me about the Mit wagon is all the WIFOM swirling around. There are a lot of variables that make me feel uncomfortable.