Mini 1404 - Monopoly Mafia - Game Over

[Jake from State Farm]

I personally don't think jal should be watched but mainly because I find it odd that she is getting so many cards and my paranoia is kicking in. but if that is what is agreed upon than so be it.

and for the sake of getting this day over already I guess I will watch Safety


or will I..... muwahahahaha

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

~Mehdi2277 has been prodded~
~Lord Mhork has been prodded~

[Lord Mhork]

Yeah so the deadline is soon. We should prolly figure out who we should lynch.

[Jake from State Farm]

I'd rather be in lylo/mylo with mehndi over mhork/xis/guile. (Difficult to read, low posters , not uber useful)

But mehndi is the most likely to flip scum.

So whatever

[Mehdi2277]

You won't be with me. I've said most what I need for my reads and opinions to be clear. If this is slot is lynched then my flip should be enough to say follow my plan with past plan success being what backs it. The only modification I'd make is swap xis with jal in jake's targets (so jake target safety or jal) because of jal's new claim.

And biting some pride back and saying sorry both to the players and mod,

I'd like to replace out.

The reason boils down to school over load for likely a while.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

~Searching for a replacement for Mehdi2277~

[Cheery Dog]

Poor person who had to replace into that scum slot. We should just lynch him more before we get an official replacement.

[guille2015]

Sad to see medhi go like this.

So, what is the game plan for tonight?

[SafetyDance]

Lmao at the wolves baying at the door.

Now we seem to have reached an understanding, what are the town/scum flip plans? Can someone refer to a table/post from before or make another one up?

Once done, I'll put my vote on Mehdi, Guille why did you unvote?

GNR, I'd hold off bringing a replacement in if we're about to lynch that slot. Thanks.

[Jake from State Farm]

This was mehndi's table

Player	Power	Target
Jake	Watcher	Safety/Xis
Safety	Watcher	Cheery/Xis
Safety	Tracker	Cheery
Cheery	Tracker	Xis
Xis	Cop	Safety
Jal	Vig	guille

the new plan is more like this

Player	Power	Target
Jake	Watcher	Safety
Safety	Watcher	Jal
Safety	Tracker	Cheery
Cheery	Tracker	Jake
Xis	Cop	Safety
Jal	Vig	guille

right now we are 6 v 2

No matter what jal should shoot tonight, if mehndi is town it's to town's advantage to be in lylo rather than mylo (less dots you have to connect)

[guille2015]

I don't remember when we decided that Safety was going to track Cheery. And Xis was supposed to cop Cheery. I think you inverted those.

[SafetyDance]

Do you recall reading this Jake?

Can you, or someone else, expand on the differences in 2 mylo lynches over 2 lylos lynches and how its an advantage? The way I see it at the moment is there is no differences, you still have to get the lynch right regardless.

Difference between a 2 kill MyLo and a 2 kill Lylo. By 2 kill I am refering to the ability to choose who the Vig Kills.

Mylo is 6 players, 2 of which are mafia. Lylo is 5 players, 2 of which are mafia. If we can kill two players during a day/night transition, in Lylo you cannot miss and hit town. So, if the Lynch is on Scum, then the vig should do nothing, and if the Lynch is on town, the Vig can do nothing.

On Mylo, If you hit Scum in the Lynch, thye vig will either hit scum and win or reduce the play to 3 people. If the Lynch is on Town, then the vig can attempt to shot the Scum and reach a 3 player LyLo. Without the Vig we would lose on Mylo if we lynch town.

I think it's a pretty good explanation, especially since Jal's new information. It's don't vig kill tonight so you can vig kill tomorrow and make sure Jal is there at 3-person lylo.

At least, that's how I see it.

Appreciate the table, so that's the if town flip? What do we do if he flips scum, free for all? :/

[guille2015]

Once done, I'll put my vote on Mehdi, Guille why did you unvote?

I did not want an accidental Hammer, especially while discussing the missing Purple card. I was just being cautious. Not that it matters at this point.

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't remember when we decided that Safety was going to track Cheery. And Xis was supposed to cop Cheery. I think you inverted those.

that was the list mehndi created, all I did was copy and paste and make changes based on the whole Jal thing.

[Jake from State Farm]

Do you recall reading this Jake?

Can you, or someone else, expand on the differences in 2 mylo lynches over 2 lylos lynches and how its an advantage? The way I see it at the moment is there is no differences, you still have to get the lynch right regardless.

Difference between a 2 kill MyLo and a 2 kill Lylo. By 2 kill I am refering to the ability to choose who the Vig Kills.

Mylo is 6 players, 2 of which are mafia. Lylo is 5 players, 2 of which are mafia. If we can kill two players during a day/night transition, in Lylo you cannot miss and hit town. So, if the Lynch is on Scum, then the vig should do nothing, and if the Lynch is on town, the Vig can do nothing.

On Mylo, If you hit Scum in the Lynch, thye vig will either hit scum and win or reduce the play to 3 people. If the Lynch is on Town, then the vig can attempt to shot the Scum and reach a 3 player LyLo. Without the Vig we would lose on Mylo if we lynch town.

I think it's a pretty good explanation, especially since Jal's new information. It's don't vig kill tonight so you can vig kill tomorrow and make sure Jal is there at 3-person lylo.

At least, that's how I see it.

Appreciate the table, so that's the if town flip? What do we do if he flips scum, free for all? :/

somehow I missed this but I still think town has a better chance of narrowing down scum tomorrow if our pool of suspects is smaller. Having to pick 2 scum out of a pool of 5 people is harder than trying to pick 2 scum out of a pool of 4.

The vig is going to shoot either way so I guess it comes down to personal preference. Guile wants us to wait because he doesn't want to die and nothing more, statistically being in lylo tomorrow instead of mylo is better for town in my opinion

[SafetyDance]

And the plan if he's scum? Obv Jal would have free reign to shoot who she pleases then but what are we doing with the rest?

Day 5 would be even easier to connect the dots if its only yourself (generalised, not Jake specifically) vs Jal and someone else.

[SafetyDance]

Once done, I'll put my vote on Mehdi, Guille why did you unvote?

I did not want an accidental Hammer, especially while discussing the missing Purple card. I was just being cautious. Not that it matters at this point.

I just see a problem now there's 3 of us and only 2 votes needed to hammer, also noting that Jake can hammer it any time he wants. No problem, just as long as no one tries to use it to weasel out of suspicion tomorrow.

[guille2015]

I don't remember when we decided that Safety was going to track Cheery. And Xis was supposed to cop Cheery. I think you inverted those.

that was the list mehndi created, all I did was copy and paste and make changes based on the whole Jal thing.

Oh, I didn't realize that he changed his plan. I think, that plan was based on lynching LM not him.

[Jake from State Farm]

If mehndi's scum I can't imagine the actions change much.

Jal if she chooses to shoot will still shoot guile (or mhork)
Jal still does her card thing
Safety still watches Jal
I still watch safety
Xis invetigates ?
Safety tracks ?
Cheery tracks ?

[Jake from State Farm]

I think xis should be tracked
Idk who else should. Cheery doesn't want to track mhork again so me or safety I guess.

[guille2015]

Player	Power	Target
Jake	Watcher	Safety
Safety	Watcher	Jal
Safety	Tracker	Cheery
Cheery	Tracker	Jake
Xis	Cop	Safety
Jal	Vig	guille

I like this for if Medhi flips scum. It tests Jake/Cherry/Safety. If Medhi flips scum, LM is auto town. So, it ends up leaving Jal and Xis as untested. It should be an easy game if Medhi flips scum.

If Medhi flips town, considering that it would leave us at a disadvantage. I'd have to say that Jal shooting is bad, especially if she hits town. That said, I'd rather she shoot LM than me, because I know I am town and everybody else is an asset. I see no reason why Xis will cop Safety, if Medhi is town. Jal needs absolute protection (which is covered by the table. and that will give us scum for sure. Xis should cop me/LM or Cheery. If Xis is copping Cheery then Safety should track Xis not Cheery. If Xis is copping me/LM then Safety tracking Cheery is fine.

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Anyone

: can somebody compile the results for actions and results for Night 1 and 2. I want to make sure of something.

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't know if everyone said their day 2 results

N1

Safety watched Jal and saw cheery, he also tracked mehndi and he went no where.

Cheery tracked UN and he went no where. He card counted Jal.

I watched Jal and saw cheery

Mehndi supposedly doc'd TBG and can't remember if he did anything else.

Jal & Xis I don't think did anything.

[Jake from State Farm]

N2

I watched safety and saw nothing.
Jal found blue card with TBG
Mehndi self watched
Safety watched cheery and saw nothing I think. Can't remember who he tracked and his result.
Cheery tracked mhork who went no where
Xis cop'd Jal

I may be missing stuff, this is solely off memory

[SafetyDance]

Player	Power	Target
Jake	Watcher	Safety
Safety	Watcher	Jal
Safety	Tracker	Cheery
Cheery	Tracker	Jake
Xis	Cop	Safety
Jal	Vig	guille

I like this for if Medhi flips scum. It tests Jake/Cherry/Safety. If Medhi flips scum, LM is auto town. So, it ends up leaving Jal and Xis as untested. It should be an easy game if Medhi flips scum.

If Medhi flips town, considering that it would leave us at a disadvantage. I'd have to say that Jal shooting is bad, especially if she hits town. That said, I'd rather she shoot LM than me, because I know I am town and everybody else is an asset. I see no reason why Xis will cop Safety, if Medhi is town. Jal needs absolute protection (which is covered by the table. and that will give us scum for sure. Xis should cop me/LM or Cheery. If Xis is copping Cheery then Safety should track Xis not Cheery. If Xis is copping me/LM then Safety tracking Cheery is fine.

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Anyone

: can somebody compile the results for actions and results for Night 1 and 2. I want to make sure of something.

Why is Mhork auto-town if Mehdi flips scum?

Otherwise I'm fine with that I guess. Although as someone who was concerned about themselves getting killed before, putting yourself up to be shot in this scenario is interesting.

Xis copping me on the if-town plan would be great actually, I'd love to hear his result, especially if Jal doesn't shoot.

[SafetyDance]

I don't know if everyone said their day 2 results

N1

Safety watched Jal and saw cheery, he also tracked mehndi and he went no where.

Cheery tracked UN and he went no where. He card counted Jal.

I watched Jal and saw cheery

Mehndi supposedly doc'd TBG and can't remember if he did anything else.

Jal & Xis I don't think did anything.

N2

I watched safety and saw nothing.
Jal found blue card with TBG
Mehndi self watched
Safety watched cheery and saw nothing I think. Can't remember who he tracked and his result.
Cheery tracked mhork who went no where
Xis cop'd Jal

I may be missing stuff, this is solely off memory

More or less right. I tracked Mehdi again last night as per scum plan. Xis' claim night one was investigating Baby iirc. Mehdi's claim was that his 50% self-watcher didn't get a result both nights.