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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:59 am

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I even have some
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Won't you celebrate Valentine's Day with me?
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:00 am

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I have no idea what your argument is probably because you are scum.

I already said its a trade of odds and due to the ridiculously high odds we lose a PR anyway its a fantastic trade to narrow odds of lynch/vig scum.
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:01 am

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I guess I must start case making on you when I get home in a bit.
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:02 am

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In post 526, Slandaar wrote:I already said its a trade of odds and due to the ridiculously high odds we lose a PR anyway its a fantastic trade to narrow odds of lynch/vig scum.

Okay, okay, here's a scenario for you:

we run someone up to L-1.

They claim.

If they claim VT, MC wouldn't have done anything.
If they claim a PR, well wow, we just got the scummiest person to claim first.

It's like, amazing. It's almost as if massclaim doesn't help us at all and you didn't think this through at all from a town perspective. It's so weird.
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:03 am

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But let's ignore our argument for now, we can finish it later today, okay? There's just one thing I want to hear from you:

Why a rolecop?
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:07 am

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VOTE COUNT 2.4


[3] q21: Kthxbye, Psyche, Nachomamma8,
[3] Ztife: Goodmorning, q21, Jennifer,
[2] Slandaar: Kwll, DeathRowKitty,
[1] KthxBye: Ztife,
[1] DeathRowKitty: Slandaar,


Not Voting:

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-02-24 23:57:13)

V/LA: Jennifer till 19th of February
q21 till 16th of February
Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
In the process of creating a game to mod, we will see what it holds.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:15 am

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DRK is probably one of my better Townreads ATM and Slandaar's argument on the massclaim is indeed bullshit (as I mentioned before).

What shall I do now? What shall I do?
I shall jump all over this wagon.

Vote: Slandaar
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:17 am

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You are a good person <3
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:35 am

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In post 528, DeathRowKitty wrote:
In post 526, Slandaar wrote:I already said its a trade of odds and due to the ridiculously high odds we lose a PR anyway its a fantastic trade to narrow odds of lynch/vig scum.

Okay, okay, here's a scenario for you:

we run someone up to L-1.

They claim.

If they claim VT, MC wouldn't have done anything.
If they claim a PR, well wow, we just got the scummiest person to claim first.

It's like, amazing. It's almost as if massclaim doesn't help us at all and you didn't think this through at all from a town perspective. It's so weird.

So, assuming the person is lynched, the vig then has the 3/8 or 2/8 to hit PR.

How doesn't that help again? it also increases odds to vig scum in said scenario by removing the pr from the pool...

Did you think this through DRK? no.
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:36 am

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In post 529, DeathRowKitty wrote:But let's ignore our argument for now, we can finish it later today, okay? There's just one thing I want to hear from you:

Why a rolecop?

Because its the one that changes the odds of scum nking PR. None of the others do and that was what I was talking about. What does a RB do to affect scum shooting a PR? it doesn't.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:39 am

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Ummm...

I really hope I don't have to guide you through why scum having a roleblocker would make massclaim even worse.
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:39 am

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In post 523, DeathRowKitty wrote:
After his iso #4, in which he talks to Dannflor, plus or minus like 2 posts where he gives a sentence in direct response to someone, he doesn't talk to ANYONE except Om, kthx, and Elleran for the ENTIRE rest of the day. Oh yeah, you were definitely actually scumhunting Slandaar.
Most definitely

So, my top scum suspects D1 ie; the 3 named people I interacted with the most and I wasn't scumhunting?

DRK even says I interacted with other just not to the same extent; guess why? because I was interrogating my main men ie scumhunting.
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:40 am

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If by "interacted with other", you mean "gave a one sentence response to something that had just been posted in one or two of your posts", then sure, you interacted with other people.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:47 am

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In post 535, DeathRowKitty wrote:Ummm...

I really hope I don't have to guide you through why scum having a roleblocker would make massclaim even worse.

OK this is the best way to explain this; if town have an rb and scum don't this then swings hugely in favour of massclaim

There is no way to know such a thing

Therefore the possibilities like this balance out throughout the many variations of setup this could be.

The fact is there is a vig/sk and by using this info we can see massclaim is good.
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:48 am

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In post 537, DeathRowKitty wrote:If by "interacted with other", you mean "gave a one sentence response to something that had just been posted in one or two of your posts", then sure, you interacted with other people.

That is my posting style yes

Good Job.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:49 am

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Although I guess I should say; if there was no vig claim we were not massclaiming; simply getting info its an sk

clearly good.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:52 am

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LOL so do you guys like you using Meta?
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:52 am

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In post 538, Slandaar wrote:OK this is the best way to explain this; if town have an rb and scum don't this then swings hugely in favour of massclaimThere is no way to know such a thingTherefore the possibilities like this balance out throughout the many variations of setup this could be.

You missed the logical conclusion of this line of thought:
Therefore, we should make arguments in favor of massclaim that use the possible existence of a scum rolecop as an important factor in why massclaim is good.
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:55 am

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In post 542, DeathRowKitty wrote:
Therefore, we should make arguments in favor of massclaim that use the possible existence of a scum rolecop as an important factor in why massclaim is good.

I didn't make it an important part

I included it because the fact the role exists means the odds of the scum killing PR are higher than what I said; I still used the actual odds not including it though.

So, what is your point?
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:59 am

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How to know DRK is scum in 1 minute;
As soon as he realised I was willing to head to head he immediately started to appeal to the masses with images; this is to manipulate ie; by posting images you are trying to influence peoples votes not with reasoning but with popularity.

It is quite obvious.
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:04 am

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I can post a picture of a stuffed frog holding an apple instead if you want. I'll claim it's me holding the apple though because I'm a frog.

But no, I spampost and post images when I get too excited. And oh man do you excite me Slandaar. Mmmmmmmmm.
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:08 am

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i c u thar, mod

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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:49 pm

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VOTE: SLANDAAAAAAAAR


remember the last game we played together
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:06 pm

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That's 4 eh? Let's make it 5. I like DRK's side of the argument and Slandaar was on D1 mis-lynch wagon.

VOTE: Slandaar
If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:08 pm

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YOU WERE THERE TOO KTHNX
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
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