NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

mozamis · Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:37 am

In post 2447, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 2199, mozamis wrote:
In post 2187, Vifam wrote:Why would MattP go to such lengths to bus a partner

It clears IAI,
and then Mattp back tracked, which kinda clears him too. "Oh, its just Mattp being matt, another BS claim. He'd never do that as town etc".
I'm not ready to vote Mattp yet, but its plausible.

How does matt's gambit clear IaI?

This was the idea that they were both in cahoots I think. Matt as scum outing IAM, who claims cop which clears IAM.
Although thinking about it, that was dependant on no one else claiming cop. I guess then it would not clear IAM, but out the real cop. Obviously, this scenario looks unlikely now no one has counter claimed, assuming there is a cop.
Anyway, wasn't this your idea? Why are you more confused about it than I am?
And why do you care - like me, you seem to believe IAM anyway.
On that note, if you do believe him, you gonna join us on the Jacob wagon?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:46 am

In post 2450, mozamis wrote:This was the idea that they were both in cahoots I think. Matt as scum outing IAM,
who claims cop which clears IAM
.

But IaI can claim cop w/e he wants to. Why does him doing it in response to Matt 'clear' him.

And either way, if IaI is mafia he is risking a CC.

I put emphasis on clear because I think that is a very strong word to be using.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:46 am

I do believe IaI. Im scum hunting you, silly.

You are aligned with the town, right?

PeregrineV · Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:04 am

In post 2435, UberNinja wrote:...that you noticed the thread was locked?

...for a brief five minute period?

...on a day where you made 0 posts in the thread?

Yes. My only posting that day (horrible work day) was to close out Agency Mafia.

mozamis · Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:12 am

In post 2452, AngryPidgeon wrote:I do believe IaI. Im scum hunting you, silly.

You are aligned with the town, right?

Why are you scum hunting me? Yes, I'm town. Pointless questions about IAM and Matt anyway -that was when YOU were talking about them being together, and I was explaining my interpretation of what you were saying to Vifam. But going on memory from what YOU said, wasn't the idea that matt by forcing IAm to claim, that would clear IAm as he was then "Outed" as the cop.
Anyway, in THAT post I wasn't saying he was cleared, just that that was the idea.
Although he's looking pretty cleared now. Could you answer my question? If you believe he is the cop, why not follow the cop and vote Jacob?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:14 am

In post 2454, mozamis wrote:Why are you scum hunting me?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:16 am

In post 2454, mozamis wrote:If you believe he is the cop, why not follow the cop and vote Jacob?

Because He investigated Mollie and got an innocent on her last night. All things considered, Mollie is the most likely person to be town in the game after Mhork.

Why the fuck should I sheep IaI on to JS? The JS case is garbage and based on him being a lurker/compromise. IaI supporting it doesnt exactly instill confidence in it.

Why are you sheeping IaI's JS read?

ISO · Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:20 am

I have no idea what to make of Matt, but it seems rather unlikely he knew this claim was coming, so...I don't get the wagon on him.

I didn't think Mollie was gonna go that way and I honestly don't think that wagon's gonna gain any traction.

Mozamis wrote:If you believe he is the cop, why not follow the cop and vote Jacob?

Yeah this isn't what "follow the cop" means...you follow his results, not just because he's the cop. In that same vein, why aren't you following Mhork?

p-edit: ^^that

Majiffy · Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:23 am

In post 2455, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 2454, mozamis wrote:Why are you scum hunting me?

Lol'd hard.

In post 2457, borkjerfkin wrote:Yeah this isn't what "follow the cop" means...you follow his results, not just because he's the cop. In that same vein, why aren't you following Mhork?

Tell that to EM.

ISO · Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:24 am

I don't wanna live in a world where EM's meta is a thing to be strived for.

MattP · Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:29 am

In post 2449, Majiffy wrote:Where were you when we were trying to lynch UN earlier?

I was in the bathroom

Majiffy · Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:35 am

In post 2460, MattP wrote:
In post 2449, Majiffy wrote:Where were you when we were trying to lynch UN earlier?

I was in the bathroom

Musta been one hell of a poop.

In post 2459, borkjerfkin wrote:I don't wanna live in a world where EM's meta is a thing to be strived for.

Suicide pact?

ISO · Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:35 am

mozamis · Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:44 am

I voted for Jacob a long time ago. Whether I sheeped IAM then I can't remember, although I THINK I voted Jacob before he did. The fact that Jacob was on mhork's and Ua's wagons doesn't help him either.
Mollie is a town read of mine, plus she is almost confirmed town, so what she says is important. But I'm really torn over the Mattp debacle as you have no doubt gathered.
I'm just puzzled as to why you're so happy to follow mollie ON THE BASIS OF WHAT IAM HAS SAYS and yet seem so reluctant to follow IAM's read.

mozamis · Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:46 am

In post 2457, borkjerfkin wrote:Yeah this isn't what "follow the cop" means...you follow his results, not just because he's the cop. In that same vein, why aren't you following Mhork?

Yeah sorry I forgot that. But you know what I mean.

ISO · Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:46 am

Cause a cop investigation on person A doesn't mean that his reads are awesome on person B

mozamis · Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:49 am

In post 2465, borkjerfkin wrote:Cause a cop investigation on person A doesn't mean that his reads are awesome on person B

Yeah I get that. What I giuess I'm asking AP is: why do you think Mollie's read is better than IAM's?
Although I guess the answer is that Ap wanted to vote matt anyway.

Vifam · Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:58 am

We don't have time for all this shit

ISO · Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:01 am

Vifam · Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:04 am

Just lynch ArcAngel seriously

UberNinja · Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:19 am

In post 2250, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 2247, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:i don't know about IAI and Matt being scum together, just based on the fact that IAI claimed shortly after. that doesn't seem like enough to say with certainty.

I never said that is why they HAVE to be scum together, otherwise I wouldnt give a shit about which one I want to lynch today. Holy fuck.
Mattp is scum for his overall play. This gambit is noting special for him. IaI is suspect for outting his PR for
no fucking reason whatsoever.
How is this hard to understand.

no fucking reason whatsoever??

uhhhh no, I see IAI as legit

UberNinja · Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:20 am

In post 2254, TheReverend wrote:It's stupid because everything seems stupid to someone who is stupid. Trust me, I'm stupid.

You appear determined to make it impossible to play at work without laughing out loud every four minutes or so on average. Damn you sir.

UberNinja · Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:21 am

In post 2266, Vifam wrote:I hope it wasn't because I called him an idiot for thinking UberNinja actually had a dead dog

I don't even know who made up that fucking story

I don't even have a dog

Vifam · Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:24 am

I was joking

pirate mollie · Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:25 am

In post 2440, UberNinja wrote:I'm @ page 86, can't finish reading in this sitting, and I'll be
V/LA this weekend, mod
, so my thoughts so far are:

1. AP is 100% town. trying to find the truth, being really pro-active, really easy to read, etc.
2. I believe IAI is a legit cop, his play before the claim makes sense and so does the claim and crumb. Doc on him plzthx.
3. Matt is a slippery mofo so idk, but AP's linked Matt-scum QT posts look pretty damning. Also I could totally see Matt doing that.
4. Majiffy looks significantly more town actually. He's enjoying the ride like me, but not in a scummy/coasting way. Townier.
5. Pirate mollie's vote and snarky comments to Matt seem totally legit. She's working her way into my heart as town.
6. Rev is really likely town. Handled AP's pressure well, seems legitimately suspicious of Mhork, the whole nine.

Really exciting reading this, but I have to go in a few min and aughhhh I wanna know what happens.
But if a lynch is about to happen soon, I want to get this out there before the thread gets locked.

See you in a few hours. And I hope I can post over the weekend if the thread's still open (prob not, though )

if you believe that IaI is a legit cop then I should be your second to top town read. there is no "working her way into my heart as town" shit, by your own reasoning I should already be there, there shouldn't be any "work" involved. I am back to being suspicious of you.

borky, this is a thing of mine: I think it is terrible terrible terrible TERRIBAD play to fake claim as town. it is one thing to drop a fake breadcrumb in order to attract a night kill and keep fire off the specials (especially when they are being super duper obvious) but it is another to fake claim a role in order to get someone

lynched

.

I DO NOT SEE ANY TOWN MOTIVATION IN THAT WHATSOEVER

. he hasn't done shit but trolleytrack on IaI and throw a dramaqueen hissy fit when people did not follow him. omg.

holy cow you people

mozi, ignore majiffy

AP, mantis looked scummy as shit the only that slot has going for them is that nacho did not drop a kill tell in his first few posts (he almost always does. had him down as possible town aligned sk on d1 by post 3 so I jailed him to give him another day to be sure he was town aligned. turned out to be vig.) he did not start the game off, mantis did tho.

majiffy you fucking ignoring me is scummy as shit.

you are hereby sent to the naughty stool