NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[TheReverend]

This doesn't seem to me like the town rob that destroyed the scum team I joined.

[Maestro]

@Mod - early request for prod of IAI - please process in ~5 minutes

.....I Am Innocent has been prodded

[Herobrine]

I'm not as good as you seem to think I am, Rev. Read my other completed town games. That game was an anomaly, not the norm.

[zabriel]

That would have been a little bit classic.

Kinda miss the flavor on the VCs.

PEdit: If there's a Vig or something of the like around, we might just be better off hitting Achivers and letting IaI get bumped off tonight possibly.

VOTE: UA

[TheUnderachivers]

Still p convinced you're scum though Vifam even tho Hero is probtown

Why do you think Hero is town

Don't really like how Vifam is more concerned with Matts town read on Hero than his read on his own slot.

Also note how Matt was calling Hero probtown and pushes on him later.

I really really do believe that Hero’s Mollie case and IAI’s Mollie case were almost identical. So I think asking why he had found Hero scummy and IAI townie was a valid question. AJ and Vifam rushing in to attack me/defend Matt doesn’t really give me good vibes. Or IAI was just shadowing Hero here. So maybe they are defending IAI instead of Matt.

Savage has just been weird this whole game. How does

ANYONE

have a town read on this slot. And how does anyone have a problem with me suspecting him?

I don’t like lurkers and I think its a slight scumtell for a player to ignore one game and post/play in others. Thats why I was voting Lyman. Though the fact that he didn’t pick up his prod and was replaced means he likely wasn’t doing this and I like Action Dan a bit so yeah.

Didn’t like Ma’s selective scumhunting when it came to Mollie. And I didn’t like Mollie’s light suspicion of Ma. But I do like some of her (Mollie’s) replies.

[TheUnderachivers]

quote="In post 656, MattP"]-

Pirate Mollie

-

Uberninja

-theunderarchivers (Nero and Mastin2)
-

Josh Lyman

(where the fuck is this guy)
-PeregrineV
-

JacobSavage

-Mozamis
-Herobrine
-Lord Mhork
^At least 4 of the 5 scums are here positive[/quote]
This post from Matt (if he’s scum) made me think I was on the right track with the bolded names.

UN’s fake aggression meta play is stupid and scummy. Though I did like his attack of Matt.

insinuating flipflopiness is in ANY way a scumtell

This is a "this is not a scumtell" post which is far more likely to come from scum instead of town.

I also think this is very dumb from Vifam.

Also I think your questioning to boner is dumb & fake

but then

I don't know why IAI is voting Mollie because the post where he voted him I just glazed over it

So he’s blasting me for asking Boner a question that he doesn’t even understand why I’m asking. This is stupid.

[TheUnderachivers]

Its also a bit of POE since my town reads of varying degree are PeregrineV
Herobrine
borkjerfkin
mozamis
TheReverend
penguin_alien
chkflip
Bitmap
pirate mollie
Lord Mhork
ArcAngel9
ActionDan
zabriel


which leaves

Majiffy
I Am Innocent
Aj the Epic
MattP
JacobSavage
UberNinja
Vifam

[TheUnderachivers]

So, quicktopic seems to be down at the moment, which is quite inconvenient for me, since I was in the process of trying to do something.

This is mainly for Nero, but following through on my /m50, zabriel looks kinda town to me as well.

[TheUnderachivers]

This whole "ZOMG NERO HAS MORE THEN ONE SUSPECT" is stupid. I can understand it from the players that I haven't played with but the players like Majiffy, Zab whom I have just blows my mind.

[Herobrine]

I really really do believe that Hero’s Mollie case and IAI’s Mollie case were almost identical. So I think asking why he had found Hero scummy and IAI townie was a valid question.

Well, if you truly believe that, then show me the similarities.

OH WAIT FUCK I BASICALLY JUST SCUM CLAIMED IN THREAD. ALERT THE UN. (lol double meaning)

I seriously can't get over how silly that was...

Wait, I'm supposed to be somewhat focused here.

tl;dr: UA, show me the similarities between my case on Mollie and IAI's case on Mollie.

~Rob

[TheUnderachivers]

(And for the record--right now, I'm trusting Nero. Him? Caught up. Me? Waaaaaay back on page 7.
Yup. You heard that right. Not 37, 27, or even 17. 7.

Butyeah, he's going to have to convince me on Vifam, who I see as kinda townish. I also skimmed AJ, and while I concluded it was possible AJ was scum, I didn't conclude it was probable, soyeah, hydra dissonance ahoy. )

[TheUnderachivers]

(Speaking of hydra dissonance, Hero's iso looks horribad to me and Nero's going to have to explain to my quite well why he has them as town.
Other than that, I either agree or have no opinion on all of his reads.
If I stopped slacking off, then maybe I'd get something more concrete, but honestly, my head's really not in this game. Delayed hydra activation, extreme number of pages which I couldn't actively follow along with, and weekend.)

[TheUnderachivers]

tl;dr: UA, show me the similarities between my case on Mollie and IAI's case on Mollie.

Your case was "I has meta that sez Mollie is scum/Mollie has a town read on Mos for no reason + I think that Mollie and Moz r scum 2gether"

IAI was like "oh yea, I don't like Mollie giving Moz a town read + Mollie flips scum we lynch Moz

It was the same shit. What o you think IAI's case on Mollie was?

[TheUnderachivers]

...And to give you a better idea of just

how

not in the game I am...

I fully realize we're the lead wagon. I fully realize that we're likely going to be lynched, 'specially since I haven't been posting. (Oh, and btw, I'd like to give a massive

HoS

to anyone asking where I was over the weekened that has played with me; they'd KNOW that I don't post then.)

...But I'm so apathetic for this game that I honestly DGAF about it.
I'd barely even consider it to be a lynch. I'd barely even consider it to have been me in the game, since, well, I'm not. It'd be like I replaced in during the night only to be nightkilled. That's exactly how much devotion I'm feeling for the game at the moment.

...Yes, that's a horribad attitude, so yes, I'll do what I can to spark my interest, but quite frankly, right now, I aint.

[TheReverend]

Alright rob, I'll give your meta the benefit of the doubt, I too have owned the shit out of one game and failed in most others as town. I guess it's the aggression that caught me by surprise, it's not that you haven't figured it out yet. But my aggression has a lot more to do with mood and other IRL factors, rather than role.

[Herobrine]

IAI's case was focused on this game and mollie's actions in it. He thought her actions stood as scummy in isolation from meta. He never once used the word meta.

My case was focused on meta and mollie's actions in this game with regards to her established scum meta.

Our cases may have overlapped slightly in that they used some of the same posts, but the ways in which we got from point A (the posts) to point B (the scum read) were vastly different.

P-edit: Oh, that. I've developed my game into being super-aggressive as town and scum. The whole "calmness" thing wasn't working for me.

Also, fail is a harsh word. I still have only lost a single game as town. I just don't make it a policy of dismantling entire scum teams by myself, mostly because I couldn't even if I wanted to.

[TheUnderachivers]

I think the main thing is that I don't trust Matt. So Matt pushing on Hero gives me townish vibes. His "me and IAI's case on Mollie was different!!! And your scummy for even thinking that they were the same." is stupid to me.

[TheUnderachivers]

Though Mastin, we should just be the day 1 lynch, save some time on the deadline and laugh at this pathetic town. Thay way they can lynch off the tail end of our wagon 'cause I bet it'll be choke full of scum.

[Herobrine]

Never said you were scummy for it. Don't put words in my mouth.

[TheUnderachivers]

I think the main thing is that I don't trust Matt. So Matt pushing on Hero gives me townish vibes. His "me and IAI's case on Mollie was different!!! And your scummy for even thinking that they were the same." is stupid to me.

Eh, I skimmed Matt's iso and I don't really see much of a Hero push. (For that matter, I don't really see Matt as scum--certainly possible, yes, but I don't have a read one way or the other.)

Though Mastin, we should just be the day 1 lynch, save some time on the deadline and laugh at this pathetic town. Thay way they can lynch off the tail end of our wagon 'cause I bet it'll be choke full of scum.

Nah, not my style to laugh at people from the dead QT when I'm lynched.
Nightkilled, sure, yeah, I love to say "I told you so", but lynched? I figure that I probably deserved it and have no right to laugh.

Would be down for another game after we're dead here, though.

(Quicktopic being down is super annoying.)

[TheUnderachivers]

Oh come on, Matt's playing like AP was and pulling out the "this is not a scumtell" play.

Read Hero's and IAI's cases on Mollie. What do you think?

[Vifam]

So he’s blasting me for asking Boner a question that he doesn’t even understand why I’m asking. This is stupid.

What? I don't think I even mentioned you there

[Vifam]

I was talking about IAI not the Mastin/Nero hydra

[PeregrineV]

@Underarchers- You are at 7 votes. I wouldn't sweat it too much.

Vote: Uberninja

I'm torn on IaI. I checked a few of his games, and his posting style is similar both as scum and town, although I didn't check the frequency.

[TheUnderachivers]

Oh come on, Matt's playing like AP was and pulling out the "this is not a scumtell" play.

Read Hero's and IAI's cases on Mollie. What do you think?

Eh, like I said, it's fully possible he's scum, but his posts don't say he definitely is.
Side-note, forgot to mention it could be possible both he and Hero are scum, 'specially since I don't see much of a Hero push from him so whatever push there is could be bussing.

Butyeah, will check out the Hero/IAI cases.