In post 456, BT wrote:Librarian #390 gets a mention for commenting on the big wagons while still sticking to a vote that no one is interested in.
In post 464, Plessiezarus wrote:[Re: peta]How many (and which) games did you check?
In post 499, Benmage wrote:That difficult to read paragraph that only repeats whats already been stated about it...
In post 452, sottyrulez wrote:Jason is still town. I have known the guy for 8 years just about, played mafia with him on and off the last three or four years? I forget. But Zach and myself are pretty great when it comes to reading the Jason slot and we both feel Jason Town right now. He does dumb things like tunnel on the wrong people (vifam) all the time as town. There are only two people I am happy in just straight up reading and that's Zach and Jason. So yeah, that's where I'm at with that. If any of you Jason voters want to show me something in his meta to provoe me wrong then go ahead. Right now I'm just not seeing it.
In post 494, sottyrulez wrote:In post 458, Cerulean wrote:
In post 452, sottyrulez wrote:Jason is still town. I have known the guy for 8 years just about, played mafia with him on and off the last three or four years? I forget. But Zach and myself are pretty great when it comes to reading the Jason slot and we both feel Jason Town right now. He does dumb things like tunnel on the wrong people (vifam) all the time as town. There are only two people I am happy in just straight up reading and that's Zach and Jason. So yeah, that's where I'm at with that. If any of you Jason voters want to show me something in his meta to provoe me wrong then go ahead. Right now I'm just not seeing it.
Him attacking "the wrong people" is not even remotely the issue we have with him. It's the fact that he's attacking Arthur and Vifam for their playstyles rather than anything alignment indicative and there's just an overall lack of substance coming from him (#122 still being the most egregious example). A lot of his posts read like they just exist to make him seem like he's contributing when he's really not. Also, just telling us to trust you isn't going to do much when you're not doing much to highlight the difference between his town play and his scum play. What's the difference between the two and how exactly is he playing like his town self? (For what it's worth, Tammy told me she feels like he's playing more like in TM 2012 Closed Normal where they were scum buddies than in Harry Potter. Tammy can probably elaborate on this better when she comes back, though.)
Yeah, your complaints about his play pretty much hit all the markers that indicate he's town. He's notoriously bad with reads and arguments as town. It's actually when he's scum that he will come across more level headed and seem to be making more reasonable arguments. It's precisely because when he's scum he's more interested in trying to fit in vs when he's town and actually interested in finding scum that he tries so hard that he tries to make square pegs fit into circular holes.
In post 502, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In post 499, Benmage wrote:That difficult to read paragraph that only repeats whats already been stated about it...
You didn't read it did you?
In post 483, DeasVail wrote:. The pressure vote has become useless, everyone's telling you to stop. Why not just move on if he doesn't actually want to lynch him? Because he's scum that doesn't want to be seen as backtracking under pressure? Possibly.
In post 483, DeasVail wrote:Regarding SafetyDance:
I didn't think his vote for SAD originally was that big a deal, but after failing to achieve the intended goal (I think?) of getting SAD to stop roleplaying, and getting negative attention for his vote, he doesn't unvote for the longest time.
In post 483, DeasVail wrote:
There's also the fact that there was content beneath SAD's roleplaying, and the first reasonably sized paragraph in 304 talks about SAD being a problem in later days, which I really feel is just scum trying too hard to justify their vote, and the whole thing about it being brought up as a 'reason' later I don't really understand. I think this would only be a problem from the PoV of scum? However, I'm not sure I understand completely.
In post 475, petapan wrote:In post 468, SafetyDance wrote:That last sentence - you openly state you're ignoring a person's posts. That's not scummy, how?
ah yes, scum often openly admit to not reading posts because that helps them achieve their goal, of lynching the town
retard
also this game is insufferably wallposty
In post 511, Benmage wrote:Your read on sdance SAD?
In post 515, absta101 wrote:I'm sick and tired of his fucking bull shit.
In post 489, TheGreatestAmericanHero wrote:In post 483, DeasVail wrote:American Hero: Why do you think sotty would defend their buddy Jason so hard?
I don’t know. It could be a small scum team, Jason could be a scum PR, or a few other reasons that I can’t think of right now. That doesn’t negate the point that they –are- defending Jason. Nor are they touching the main issue of why Jason is scum. Instead they are labeling Jason as town due to his gambit and tunneling on Vifam.
Sotty, would you respond to 304 and give your thoughts on that and how it affects your read on Jason? Would you also address Jason’s scumread on Dayne?
I’m going to catch up with everything, hopefully, before I head out to work today. If there is anything that people would specifically like me to address please let me know.
In post 520, camn wrote:In post 515, absta101 wrote:I'm sick and tired of his fucking bull shit.
ooOOoo.. big man!
In post 516, absta101 wrote:Read more tomorrow.
Not so confident on my SD vote anymore (obviously). People should vote Camn for what I brought up.
Oh, yes. I agree.In post 522, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Absta's thing looks horribly contrived anyways.
