Mini 1404 - Monopoly Mafia - Game Over

[Mehdi2277]

And if the useless isn't clear my role is only useful when people target me sometimes. If people don't target me I'm basically vanilla.

[SafetyDance]

I visited you two days in a row.

[Mehdi2277]

I know. I also didn't find out either day.

[Mehdi2277]

50 percent

self watcher

Ergo all actions targeted at me I only have a 50 percent chance of finding out that person targeted me.

[Jal]

Even if there's a redirector, I think scum could have done a better job than kill TBG town-wise.

My cards upgraded me to PR vig instead of vanilla townie. Only one kill. Still have cards.

All these watcher roles bleh.

[Cheery Dog]

Mhork is clearly not aligned with Medhi whatsoever (see how Medhi tried to counter-bandwagon Mhork D1), so that seems like a lame ass tracking target if you think Medhi is scum.

Sorry it I forget stuff from D1 which I wasn't even here for most of.
I'd dropped the brawl scum read during yesterday, as you would have seen the absence of me talking to him.

@safety I read kill flavoring. (I know it's not meant to actually relate to the game, but it was still there)

And I'm now claiming my third starting deed, because it will help you understand it (though I probably should have asked the other two if I'm allowed to do so last night or whenever they can tell at me they they don't want this revealed)
I'm in a neighborhood (red cards) with mhork and guille, stuff mhork said in there last night increased the oddness I had been reading from him yesterday on him as he seemed to be contradicting his stance on mehdi in there compared to in thread. Enough that I felt he was the best track target. (I also asked in there which plan I should follow in there for other's opinions other than my own, and it was decided town flip was possibly better.
I also have my town read on guile based a fair bit in on stuff said inside it. (even though NumQ never posted during night 1, by early read of him was pregame from there more than the lurkaderp in the main thread)

[SafetyDance]

Mhork is clearly not aligned with Medhi whatsoever (see how Medhi tried to counter-bandwagon Mhork D1), so that seems like a lame ass tracking target if you think Medhi is scum.

Sorry it I forget stuff from D1 which I wasn't even here for most of.
I'd dropped the brawl scum read during yesterday, as you would have seen the absence of me talking to him.

@safety I read kill flavoring. (I know it's not meant to actually relate to the game, but it was still there)

And I'm now claiming my third starting deed, because it will help you understand it (though I probably should have asked the other two if I'm allowed to do so last night or whenever they can tell at me they they don't want this revealed)
I'm in a neighborhood (red cards) with mhork and guille, stuff mhork said in there last night increased the oddness I had been reading from him yesterday on him as he seemed to be contradicting his stance on mehdi in there compared to in thread. Enough that I felt he was the best track target. (I also asked in there which plan I should follow in there for other's opinions other than my own, and it was decided town flip was possibly better.
I also have my town read on guile based a fair bit in on stuff said inside it. (even though NumQ never posted during night 1, by early read of him was pregame from there more than the lurkaderp in the main thread)

You're claiming you can talk to those two during the night? Wow. :/

That still doesn't address that you talked to the mod about it.

Even if there's a redirector, I think scum could have done a better job than kill TBG town-wise.

My cards upgraded me to PR vig instead of vanilla townie. Only one kill. Still have cards.

All these watcher roles bleh.

So what difference does it actually make? I'm not following that part?

[Cheery Dog]

You search the monkey for clues and find out that MonkeyMan576 was telling the truth, he wasn't scum...

[Jal]

Safety, I have no clue other than if I flip I'll be "Town Vigwhatever." And that I get no extra kill except the one I had.

I want to know more of Mhork said as well as Mhork and Guille's opinion on this. Did Mhork tell you he was going to go somewhere?

[Jal]

Also, did they know who you were going to target?

[Mehdi2277]

The town plan had him targeting whoever he wanted and it becomes a bit weaker if he revealed so likely not.

[SafetyDance]

Ok, gotcha. Thanks

P-edit. Yeah, me too Jal. From the sounds of it they had a big conversation yet where are they now? Game's been open for over 24hrs...

[Cheery Dog]

Also, did they know who you were going to target?

No, I don't know what any of their cards are besides the ones that get them into the neighbourhood either.
(well I do have a idea of Mhork's second one now I've tracked him)

P-edit. Yeah, me too Jal. From the sounds of it they had a big conversation yet where are they now? Game's been open for over 24hrs...

We were only active in there at the start of the night.

[SafetyDance]

I think the only cards we haven't heard any power claims from are pink, dark green and the railways.

Also look at what cards/abilities people had coming into the night

Powers
SD - watcher (purple) + tracker (utility)
CD - tracker (utility) + bean counter (light blue) + neighbourhood (red)
Jake - watcher (purple)
Jal - vig
Xis - something (yellow)
Mehdi - self-watching (orange)
guille - neighbourhood (red)
mhork - neighbourhood (red)
tbg - nothing

Monkey's vig card was in the wind, only now from jal do we know it went to tbg. Too convenient that the one player without anything is the one killed.

[Jal]

The town plan had him targeting whoever he wanted and it becomes a bit weaker if he revealed so likely not.

Why are you answering for him all of today? That doesn't even answer my question whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the town had planned. It doesn't mean he didn't say anything in the neighborhood of some sort. How would you know what happened otherwise?

Cheery, just to clarify -what I mean in that question: did you say anything about your action last night? Did they help suggest some course of action for you?

P-edit: I really do think it's convenient also.

[Jal]

Although, he could have had some combination he never told us about.

[Jal]

For example, I have more powers than vigging.

[Xisiqomelir]

@Mehdi2277

: Your question is an absurd hypothetical. I prefer to deal with what we know, and what we know is that 2 conftown have died suspecting you. This is in addition to the town/scum roleblocking and "I protected tbg/I protected x" contradictions.

@SafetyDance

:

Wouldn't mind the medhi and xis claims now. And for Mohrk and Guille to post.

I've stated my conditions. It's inevitable, don't worry.

[Mehdi2277]

I assumed he didn't say since it wouldn't be needed if the plan they told him to do involved him picking personally. I can answer him since I don't think he's scum so I don't think it hurts.

[SafetyDance]

@Mehdi2277

: Your question is an absurd hypothetical. I prefer to deal with what we know, and what we know is that 2 conftown have died suspecting you. This is in addition to the town/scum roleblocking and "I protected tbg/I protected x" contradictions.

@SafetyDance

:

Wouldn't mind the medhi and xis claims now. And for Mohrk and Guille to post.

I've stated my conditions. It's inevitable, don't worry.

We've had all night actions and results stated, everyone has posted bar two with apparently no power role. Why wait?

Cheery, do you still only have 3 cards? Did anyone get more cards in the night/day?

[SafetyDance]

For example, I have more powers than vigging.

Pink or Green?

[SafetyDance]

Nevermind, you must have something with the pinks

[Jal]

I assumed he didn't say since it wouldn't be needed if the plan they told him to do involved him picking personally. I can answer him since I don't think he's scum so I don't think it hurts.

No, what you're doing is being a crappy anti-town player that doesn't let someone speak for themselves. Letting someone give their own information, can give town potentially more info and insight into a player's alignment they might not have given otherwise (intentional or not).

P-edit: I have powers concerning

light

green and railroads.

[Cheery Dog]

Cheery, just to clarify -what I mean in that question: did you say anything about your action last night? Did they help suggest some course of action for you?

I only asked what plan I should follow as we hadn't programmed for an SK flip.

I assumed he didn't say since it wouldn't be needed if the plan they told him to do involved him picking personally. I can answer him since I don't think he's scum so I don't think it hurts.

But if I was to be scum, would it hurt?

Cheery, do you still only have 3 cards? Did anyone get more cards in the night/day?

I started with 3 (the ones I've claimed) and got a 4th at the start of yesterday as I claimed when it was thought Monkey had said that he had got his third during the night.

[Cheery Dog]

No new ones today or during night 2.