Though hopefully a little less
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In post 437, absta101 wrote:In post 368, petapan wrote:for real though why are people ignoring safetydance
bs noise post. SD was the second largest waggon at that point (unless i'm blind).
stopping here, getting late.
sorry for the multi-post-spam.
In post 452, sottyrulez wrote:I'm pretty sure I read Cerulean defending Plees from Camn too which makes me urk. But I will look back again later.
In post 391, petapan wrote:safetydance is showing an almost singular focus on defending his badvote where absta at least has some opinions and stuff (not good opinions, but still). also, absta actually bothers calling people scum while safetydance is still crying "antitown"
In post 403, camn wrote:I am not convinced on Jasonscum. It certainly could be that he is fooling me, but I generally feel confident on my gut reads of Jason.
In re: my so-called "obsession"..... if that's gonna keep getting mentioned, I would like someone to point out where it actually happened. I am officially telling you that it was just a question, and one I would want answered any time someone displays a weird post-style. But to spin it as "obsession "...... It does occur to me to wonder why anyone would spin it that way So cite, please. Or retract.
In post 419, camn wrote:Ps- based on recent posts, I think Plezz and McStab are scum together.
In post 432, absta101 wrote:This is a question from town.In post 326, petapan wrote:SAD do you think that people townreading you are just naive or possibly scum who are faking reads
In post 437, absta101 wrote:In post 368, petapan wrote:for real though why are people ignoring safetydance
bs noise post. SD was the second largest waggon at that point (unless i'm blind).
In post 455, Konowa wrote:Short post short till I get off this afternoon.
Waiting on rofl to get back to me, if no response by then our vote will be moving to Jason. sotty can go next. Their 452 doesn't address the main issue for us of why Jason is likely scum (Jason pushing this crap that Dayne is scum because his RPing is "scum trying hard to fit in".
In post 448, petapan wrote:
i think it is a bad move given inexperience because that's what inexperience scum does - they whinge about people beinganti-townand try to push based on that because they have difficulty calling people actually scummy
In post 452, sottyrulez wrote:Jason is still town. I have known the guy for 8 years just about, played mafia with him on and off the last three or four years? I forget. But Zach and myself are pretty great when it comes to reading the Jason slot and we both feel Jason Town right now. He does dumb things like tunnel on the wrong people (vifam) all the time as town. There are only two people I am happy in just straight up reading and that's Zach and Jason. So yeah, that's where I'm at with that. If any of you Jason voters want to show me something in his meta to provoe me wrong then go ahead. Right now I'm just not seeing it.
In post 456, BT wrote:Shadoweh is still pretty bad. Cerulean, you said you found something about her meta, right?
In post 456, BT wrote:Why is pless scum and why are they together?
Vifam was scummy in general, and so is his replacement. Also note the hypocrisy of asking me 'why' while delivering absolutely nothing in the way of 'why'.In post 456, BT wrote:SD is actually pretty solid, people should back off of that wagon.
In post 459, Cerulean wrote:Hmmm, actually there's something interesting I just found out about SafetyDance I have to run by my other head first. Stay tuned.
Did you have a town-read on TML before your 396, and if so, why? (Is it because of his 390, is what I guess I'm really asking.)
Eh he was on his way to "townland" and I guess you can say that post pushed him over the fence.
In post 460, camn wrote:As far as the connection? Read the thread and we can talk about it.
In post 277, Plessiezarus wrote:In post 273, camn wrote:First- I DID answer that question! But Perez didn't notice in his eagerness to create a counter crap case. Attack your attacker, hmm?
I looked for an answer, didn't see one. Still don't, really, unless the second sentence of 147 was meant to be one. Was it?
In post 460, camn wrote:Vifam was scummy in general, and so is his replacement. Also note the hypocrisy of asking me 'why' while delivering absolutely nothing in the way of 'why'.
In post 460, camn wrote:Either spill it.. or shut up about it and just tell us when after you have two-head-approval. Hydra self-reference is.. and although I have townread on YOUR SLOT, I am starting to think it is a scumtell in general.not useful
In post 126, Cerulean wrote:Camn - Do you really suspect people who give no reasons for their votes ...blah.... what are you doing here?
In post 147, camn wrote:Cerulean- Encouraging us out of the RVS. Randomly naming names is the worst kind of first page. But- no longer relevant.
And before you say it- I understand that there may actually be real hydra dissonance.... but telling the real from the fake is the name of the game, right? If I think someone is faking a discussion with thier partner... or making too much of a SHOW of it, thats scummy.In post 296, Cerulean wrote:"look they're trying to fake hydra dissonance since everyone thinks that's town."
camn wrote:"GOSH! This game is SO HARD!
I totally have NO IDEA who the scum are!!? Hmmm..
Let me think.... who could it be?
omg imso confusednow.
Everytime I think I has it figured out... I dont!
Because I am TOTALLY a member of the uninformed majority!!!"
In post 439, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Town peta is much more focused early in the day in terms of scumhunting. Scum peta takes a few pages to find something he wants to bite on.This is something that is fairly consistent throughout his meta.
In post 445, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In post 409, Plessiezarus wrote:Right now, which of the two [absta and SafetyDance] do you think looks more likely to be scum?
Prob none actually? I mean they're... justthere.
In post 445, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Vifam's 40 actually reads very genuine and townish in retrospect. It seems natural, + don't think if Vifam was actually a cop and white he would've said that. The one black people IIRC from the cops (in s1) are Kima and Freamon. Kima is a girl, so that leaves Freamon. Meh, so it somewhat lowers the odds of him having a scumrole.
In post 452, sottyrulez wrote:Ironic or not, I don't really like any of the other hydras. TGAH I have already gone into and they are a strong scum read of mine. But the other two Plessiezarus and Cerulean both feel fake when I read their posts.
In post 463, camn wrote:More importantly.. have I cleared anything up for you? Is something that was unclear now clear? Please tell us your conclusions.
In post 463, camn wrote:Because me ignoring questions that dont actually help the game (that is, your question about if I answered a different question)- I do that for a reason. To avoid polluting the game with crap-spam.
I also protest the hydra stuff for the same reason....to avoid polluting the thread with crap.
In post 463, camn wrote:Re: Vifam- Now. Today. Thats when I decided. BT rang my bell, I ISO'd Vifam, and went wow. scummy.
What do you conclude from the timeline of my suspicions? Anything? Or was that just a question for the sake of chainsawing your partner?
In post 463, camn wrote:And Hydra self-reference certainly can be a scumtell. Cerulean alluded to it already-And before you say it- I understand that there may actually be real hydra dissonance.... but telling the real from the fake is the name of the game, right?In post 296, Cerulean wrote:"look they're trying to fake hydra dissonance since everyone thinks that's town."
In post 360, petapan wrote:In post 350, SafetyDance wrote:So you read the highlighted bit and tell me how you can interpret that as anything but me saying its anti-town?
i'm interpreting it as you being scum voting someone for being annoying and making a big fat stink about it
In post 378, petapan wrote:In post 375, DeasVail wrote:Safety Dance and SAD are new scumreads. The SAD one is a bit weak though.
so vote safetydance, he's still voting SAD when SAD is clearly contributing and playing the game and isn't RPing as much, and is just trying to justify his crap vote instead of moving forward and saying anything meaningful
In post 465, Plessiezarus wrote:Cerulean asked if you thought voting with no reason was scummy.
In post 352, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In post 350, SafetyDance wrote:
In post 347, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In post 304, SafetyDance wrote:if I check his post history will I find him acting like this in other games? I don't think so.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=23748
You are...?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
In post 405, Cerulean wrote:In post 378, petapan wrote:so vote safetydance, he's still voting SAD when SAD is clearly contributing and playing the game and isn't RPing as much, and is just trying to justify his crap vote instead of moving forward and saying anything meaningful
I don't know dude, I thought Safety's first two posts were really bad but I just read his recent posting and I'm getting the same vibes I got from Nostedeus - basically, that he's just incompetent and not really scummy. I don't think him trying to push a policy-type lynch on Arthur and justifying it is really that bad given his inexperience and how much negative attention he drew from it earlier. Plus, I thought the way he lashed out at TML in #304 with the whole "don't pigeonhole me" type stuff was pretty genuine and townish. I haven't talked to Tammy about him yet though (I think she might still be scumreading him?) and I do agree that he does need to involve himself a little more in scumhunting than self-defense at this stage.
In post 411, McStab wrote:I think that anyone looking at this from a scumhunting perspective already understands this, but in case anyone doesn't (Plezzie apparently can't):
Anyone attacking SAD for RPing isn't alignment indicative (although I think it may be indicative of a lack of sense of humour, but I digress). Anyone attacking SAD for RPing as their main attack, voting him, claiming he's scummy for doing so, or claiming that there is nothing better to be doing when we're 17 pages in IS acting scummy. That's grasping at straws and trying to form a case on anything they can find while plenty of real scummy behaviours are happening.
This may be OMGUS but I think he's been trying to drift under the radar, so I'd be into a Plessie wagon if it forms; SafetyDance is still worth pursuing for the moment though.
Also I have a townread on Arthur because he's probably been scumhunting the most strongly here. If you think I avoid confrontations with strong players as scum I point you to Micro 78.
In post 448, petapan wrote:
i think it is a bad move given inexperience because that's what inexperience scum does - they whinge about people beinganti-townand try to push based on that because they have difficulty calling people actually scummy
the first time you asked it i didn't have a read. at the time of him replacing out, I read him and leaned scum because while him getting bored and frustrated with the game is pretty much just him being vifam, i know he prefers being town to being scum, and he didn't really come off with many solid opinions where looking at him in homestuck he had a few early on that he gave some reasoning for and i didn't see a similarity here
that said i haven't read anything that BT is posted and do not plan to for a while
In post 452, sottyrulez wrote:Okay so I am caught up. Liking the SafetyDance vote mostly because of his posturing and dismissive tone when it comes to a lot of the pressure. Also he brings up winning the recent vig4all? I don't really like that at all. I know Zach played in that game so when he wakes up I'll ask him about it, but right now, blegh.
In post 461, Nostredeus wrote:
I'm finding SD's posts pretty genuine; it's pretty mental to characterise his stuff as just being about SAD's RP, I'm finding players who are doing that to be latching on to this growing bandwagon. The stuff about SD's posturing is pretty decent though, and the 'I am so good at mafia look at my vig game" comment seemed weird to me, I'm probably going to hipster this wagonfor nowtoo though.