NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[Majiffy]

Not sure what to make of om's reaction to the daycop thing.

Bugged me too.

[chkflip]

shut the fuck up

How about be productive and people would stop looking at you with cocked eyebrows?

Crazy theory, I know, but it just might work.

[Vifam]

I give him points for not just giving up like I expected him to

[Om of the Nom]

no, as in, who the fuck are you to tell me i'm off my game, and how the fuck would you even know if i was off my game?

I've barely seen a lick of scumhunting from you.
This is not normal and I am worried for your health.

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shut the fuck up

Why the hostility? :(
I-I thought we were friends?

[Maestro]

I sometimes watch birds and wonder “If I could fly, who would I shit on?”

VoteCount #1.11

Bitmap -

1

[L-10]

TheReverend
Herobrine -

3

[L-8]

borkjerfkin, Vifam, chkflip
pirate mollie -

2

[L-9]

Josh Lyman, Lord Mhork
Majiffy -

1

[L-10]

JacobSavage
JacobSavage -

2

[L-9]

pirate mollie, I Am Innocent
mozamis -

4

[L-7]

Om of the Nom, pengiun_alien, zabriel, Majiffy
Josh Lyman -

1

[L-10]

Aj the Epic
pengiun_alien -

2

[L-9]

PeregrineV, mozamis
Om of the Nom -

2

[L-9]

Bitmap, Herobrine
Lord Mhork -

1

[L-10]

Boner Police
chkflip -

1

[L-10]

theunderachivers

With 21 alive it takes 11 to Lynch.

Not Voting:

UberNinja

V/LA over the weekend:

TheReverend, theunderachivers

Deadline / Bankable Time:

(expired on 2013-02-21 17:00:00)

[UberNinja]

no, as in, who the fuck are you to tell me i'm off my game, and how the fuck would you even know if i was off my game?

I've barely seen a lick of scumhunting from you.
This is not normal and I am worried for your health.

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shut the fuck up

Why the hostility?
I-I thought we were friends?

Because you are either scum or you're being a complete and total asstard.

I am trying to be a good IC in another game, and I've had a long week at work, and also real life is kicking me in the ass, and honestly I really don't need that shit, especially from someone nowhere near as good as I consider myself to be (pompous asshole warning... watch out guys)

[Boating Police]

VOTE: UN

[pirate mollie]

moziperson is obvconftown and has no idea how to act

I'm flattered, but why I am "obvconftown"?
And, since I am town, why I would I want to "act"?

Answers to these questions ASAP, mollie.

~Rob

your posts don't feel scummy to me. I like that you are questioning my town read even though I think you are being retarded.

"act" as in behave not pretend.

[UberNinja]

Anyway, tomorrow is the catch up day. I saw something about a day cop. This is getting exciting.

But don't get the wrong idea, my attitude is still this:



p-edit @ boner: lol

[Boating Police]

Keep lol'in

[zabriel]

Not that I don't appreciate being called obv-town, but NY 159 was my first scum game. Or maybe just my first non-micro scum game. It's a valid observation; I do suck as I almost never roll scum, but I do like to think my scum game has improved a little since NY 159. I'm going to assume good intent since that was just kind of volunteered out of nowhere. In my experience scum usually wait until my wagon is already rolling to defend me.

Also:

UNVOTE: Mozamis

Thinking about where to go from here. Just read Penguin's iso and I actually like her posts a little better now. I didn't really get the Hero-wagon until I re-read #374. First point is terrible and the testing the waters stuff seems terrible and reaching. Plus the jump to Om (who would seriously just be a policy lynch) without commenting on the switch rubs me kind of wrong.

VOTE: Hero

[chkflip]

I am trying to be a good IC in another game, and I've had a long week at work, and also real life is kicking me in the ass, and honestly I really don't need that shit, especially from someone nowhere near as good as I consider myself to be (pompous asshole warning... watch out guys)

Spoiler: srsbsns

You're packed with excuses, aren't you bb? I thought he was just having a go with you.

[Om of the Nom]

Okay, moving the game rereading to tomorrow, way too hyper and distracted to do anything today and I'm basically running off two hours of sleep.

[mozamis]

And I'm obviously voting Mozamis so you can make of that whatever a cognizant being with an IQ of 80 should be able to do.

And you call me "snarky"? Yeah I was annoyed at what you posted, because you were being an arse. And once again, you are being an arse to someone else. I don't know what your problem is, but it's annoying and unhelpful to town.

[mozamis]

But I'm not sure I know what to think of Bitmap's fake-claim day vig... Fake claiming day vig is really stupid, especially there.

This slightly worries me. It's clearly a "jokey" claim, so what else is there to think? Looks a little bit like you are trying to fake a reaction to me.
I'll keep my vote on penguin for now, but

[mozamis]

your posts don't feel scummy to me. I like that you are questioning my town read even though I think you are being retarded.

"act" as in behave not pretend.

Damned with faint praise lol
I'm assuming by "don't know how to behave" you meant me starting off being "posh"?

[Herobrine]

First, let's look at mollie's scum meta. In a recent game we played together, she replaced into a scum-team with me. One of the first things she said in the scum QT was her feelings on listing your read on a partner. She said the following:

awww, fuck it, rob next time you make a list of your reads keep in mind that scum almost always puts their scummates in the middle of their list, lol, listing is a tool to catch scum. they also almost always list their teammmates as null unless they are trying to get them lynched or they are confident in their skillz.

So mollie is extremely likely to list her partner as town/scum instead of null even when it doesn't make total sense to do so because she considers it an associative tell. This could potentially lead to her sounding forced when composing reads.

moziperson is obvconftown and has no idea how to act. also wagon speed. and look who was on it

This leads to a weird and forced read on Mozamis. Mollie lists him as "obvconftown". If Mozamis is ObvTown, then that suggests Mollie can point to specific posts that look like town or at least provide some good reasons for him being town. Instead, she simply can't.

your posts don't feel scummy to me. I like that you are questioning my town read even though I think you are being retarded.

I don't see how the absense of scumminess, which would mean null, turns into ObvConfTown. That doesn't compute for me. Note that the one actual reason she gives occurred AFTER she listed Mozamis as obvconftown.

moziperson is obvconftown and has no idea how to act

I'm flattered, but why I am "obvconftown"?
And, since I am town, why I would I want to "act"?

Mozamis' response to Mollie's original read on him sounded nervous to me. A townie wouldn't care exclusively about those who think they're town, I don't think. If they were going to ask for support for reads, I would think they would have done it earlier when people were forming the wagon on them. Scum wouldn't question a town read on them by someone other than a partner. Scum may question a town read on them by a partner if they thought their partner had slipped up and associated them. It could be distancing.

I should note that I'm questioning whether the last bit about Mozamis' response is confirmation bias on my part. It could be. Let me know if it doesn't look nervous in your opinion or that point is otherwise unfair.

Conclusion:

Vote
Unvote mollie

Wish I had a second vote to get Mozamis as well.

~Rob

[Herobrine]

EBWOP: I'm a derp.

Unvote
Vote: mollie

~Rob

[mozamis]

I liked Mollie's response. To me, it is clear that she meant "I liked Moz's posts, he looks town to me". "obvconfirm town" is not a phrase I would use on Day 1, but maybe it's just her playstyle. Anyway, she gets townie points from me for giving a strong read. She doesn't seem nervous.

[Om of the Nom]

Okay, I really don't feel like sleeping anymore, even though it's like almost 12AM, so I'm just going to read like 5 pages now and then try to sleep.

when Thor and I play our hydra.

Oh my god, that sounds horrific. It's hard enough playing with either of you separately. Together?

*shudder*

~Rob

P-edit: OMG it's an OMGUS vote! EVERYONE VOTE VIFAM!!!!!!!!1!!!1111!!!1111111

P-P-edit: lol, you guys would name your hydra "boner police"

P-P-P-edit: OMG STOP POSTING STUFF

P-P-P-P-edit: FML

This doesn't sound like scum at all it just looks like hyperactive town to me.

That's page 1 done.

[Om of the Nom]

Why the fuck are people RVS'ing when there are a few decent leads already?

Anyone that RVSs now is just shitty scum trying to prolong the bullshit period of the game

~MattP

FOS BonerPolice

Bitmap this was bad, regardless of a whether or not it was a joke.

FOS BonerPolice

I expected better from you

You know I'm a lighthearted guy.

VOTE: Herobrine

I don't like this either.

The first post is just some introduction and the second post is just him having fun

Vifam really just summed up my thoughts on Herobrine at that point in time.

Hey Boner, Om does this sort of shit all the time with the fluff posting. What makes this so scummy?

Vote: Bitmap

Om hasn't posted in here, nor confirmed, and isn't a hydra.

I'm seriously wondering if he was being intentionally dense with this comment.

Om has not posted yet what are you talking about

Vifam I think of you as a much smarter person than a lot of people on this forum, please don't let me down.

Hey Boner, Om does this sort of shit all the time with the fluff posting. What makes this so scummy?

Vote: Bitmap

Om hasn't posted in here, nor confirmed, and isn't a hydra.

/headdesk

I mean I've played with Om and even hydra'd with him in many previous games. He fluff posts as town. I asked Boner what makes this situation so unique.

Boner Police has never said a word about Om.

Same as the last PV quote, it's just really dumb and I don't get it.

[Herobrine]

I liked Mollie's response. To me, it is clear that she meant "I liked Moz's posts, he looks town to me". "obvconfirm town" is not a phrase I would use on Day 1, but maybe it's just her playstyle. Anyway, she gets townie points from me for giving a strong read. She doesn't seem nervous.

I was saying YOUR response was nervous, not hers. Her posting definitely isn't nervous, but she doesn't get nervous when scum, so I wouldn't expect her to be.

[Om of the Nom]

Ur throwin me in a whirlpool Vifam

First thing I said to Reck 10 posts into the game was "Vifam/Herobrine scumteam 2013"

But bussing ur scumbuddy at a time like this? Scandalous

I'm curious as to what this Vifam scumread was based on. I mean, if it's already explained in the thread then just wait for me to get there but if not please tell me in the meantime.

BonerPolice is probably town. Matt gets really insecure when he gets a wrong read on someone elsewhere.

I don't think this meta is true, Matt doesn't get very insecure about his reads lol, or at least he doesn't show it.

I don't think they're good enough to juggle both simultaneously juggling a slight scumread on me and defending themselves from a scumread I have on them at the same time. Seems too parallel as opposed to direct, and then not only that but in the next post to completely and utterly disregard their read on me and vote with me. Really sloppy, not neat enough to be scum

I don't know whether to suspect you or be sad that you're using a too scummy to be scum argument as an experienced player.

[Om of the Nom]

Oh so because he's playing sloppy he can't be scum

This is a better way of saying it. People can be sloppy by going back on their word / lie and that's scummy. But he didn't go back on his word, he just posted a feeling he had that was transient and moved on along and as scum you make up fake shit and build fake cases around it. Yeah as scum come 10 pages later you can forget something, but it was one post. I believe the thought process was genuine, and therefore I think he's town.

Better?

Okay this is much better you are forgiven.

Also Bitmap is softly trying to push a Herobrine lynch this ENTIRE TIME with shit like post 76 when he has "no reads"

I think you're spouting bullshit Matt. That last post about scum doesn't play sloppy is pretty bad.

VOTE: BonerPolice

This wagon needs to get going.

Yeah um, this just sound like OMGUS lol. It's really not that hard to just discredit an attack against you by calling it bullshit, it's a lot harder to actually say why it is.

So Boner Police and Bitmap are town then.

No, just no.

You really are on another plane when it comes to this stuff

U should give a reason for why Hero is a good lynch instead of wasting time trying to discredit me

Just some advice 4 u

I'm not discrediting you. Hero is a good wagon because he voted BitMap based on something that was obviously a joke, it's sloppy because he think he saw a contradiction by a player and went "oh gee I guess I can hop on dis". Scum do that all the time when attention shifts from them to some other guy

This sounds like a really easy reason to get on a wagon, how ironic. I still stand by my town read on Herobrine.

[Om of the Nom]

well now things just got interesting

eta: IF SOMEONE NINJA POSTS ME AGAIN THEY ARE DRAWING BACK A BLOODY NUB!!!!!

god mollie you're being really bad at this

VOTE: Bitmap

Wagons are good.

Majiffy is being as useless as he normally is.