Mini 388: DOOMsville II {Game Over!}

Ozymandius · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:02 pm

/confirm

Ozymandius · Post Post #27 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:54 pm

vote: Friday-13th

Half random/half because today is Friday.

Ozymandius · Post Post #32 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:53 pm

Rosso Carne wrote:
kill: bird111

Just curious, is that a vote?

Ozymandius · Post Post #43 (isolation #3) » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:51 pm

I'm confused at that Friday-14th and the what is useful thing.
Friday's grammar is a little confusing to me.

unvote vote: geraintm

for not bolding thier vote.

Ozymandius · Post Post #45 (isolation #4) » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:30 pm

ShadowLurker wrote:
Vote Ozy

Vote hops too much.

I changed my vote once, and Turbo did it before me, although perhaps I shouldn't have, since he got two votes placed on him after he did.

Ozymandius · Post Post #66 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:46 pm

I'm back. Not sure what else to say at the moment, but I'll get back to you all when I do.

Ozymandius · Post Post #87 (isolation #6) » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:19 am

I'm here. Do you have a problem with me ShadowLurker?

I'm still trying to sort out what the situation is, and right now, I don't have much time, I'll be back later.

Ozymandius · Post Post #105 (isolation #7) » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:50 pm

Shadow, I don't quite follow. I wasn't really clear as to what I was saying, I realize that, so here is what I want to know. Why do you seem to jump at me so much. First I vote hop, when someone else has done so before, and now you jump at me for lurking, when I am not the biggest lurker. Sorry, it almost seems as if you're singleing me out.

I'm new, so if 'Bad Coin' is a mafia (or a Rosso Carne) term, then I don't know what it means. I'm asking you Patrick, since you know, and have not threatened to shoot me for asking.

Ozymandius · Post Post #115 (isolation #8) » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:47 pm

In Post 97 on page 4:

ShadowLurker wrote:
confirm vote kilmenator

ShadowLurker wrote: I was never voting you

So was this not a vote?

Ozymandius · Post Post #136 (isolation #9) » Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:14 am

I really don't know what to think of SL, I think his answer was a little fishy, but truthfully, not extrememly scummy.

Unvote

That vote was pretty much random and no longer serves a purpose.

Ozymandius · Post Post #172 (isolation #10) » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:59 pm

I'm here.

Ozymandius · Post Post #183 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:06 pm

I'm not particuluarly fond of the choice of language used by Friday, but I suppose that itself is not enough to vote you or anything, I just find it unnessesary. But if it really works for you Friday, I don't suppose I can do anything about it.

By the way, I unvoted before the last vote count, and the unvote was not reflected there.

Ozymandius · Post Post #195 (isolation #12) » Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:22 am

I'm still here, I don't mean to lurk or anything, I've just be so busy with everything lately. I'll get on this soon.

Ozymandius · Post Post #198 (isolation #13) » Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:04 pm

I'll get on reading this one soon. I've got a lot on my plate. Hopefully this will at least bump the topic up.

Ozymandius · Post Post #214 (isolation #14) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:47 pm

I believe ShadowLurker's WTF post was because he was voting Friday yet Kilmenator claims the Shadow is defending Friday, although I feel it would be much more helpful if Shadow explained his reasoning rather than random ambigous posts.

Ozymandius · Post Post #224 (isolation #15) » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:40 am

kilmenator wrote:SL, why do you always seem to be sticking up for Friday?

kilmenator wrote:sorry about that SL i meant to say turbo not friday. it has been a long week..already and it is only tuesday! ahh... you always seem to be sticking up for turbo... i need a reread terribly

turbolover wrote:Oh, you didn't mean ShadowLurker was sticking up for Friday, you meant I was. That makes so much more sense.

FOS: killmenator. Start making sense.

Turbo, if you take into context what kilmenator said, you would replace your name with friday, not SL, so he's saying that Shadowlurker is sticking up for you, not that you are sticking up with friday. This is what I asumed kilmenator meant when I read his post. I'm going to do a read through after I wake up, I'd say tommorow but it's almost 5 in morning. I get back to you all on that later.

Ozymandius · Post Post #238 (isolation #16) » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:24 pm

Sorry, I can't reread today, but I'll attempt to get back to it tommorow, I don't think I'll have too much of a problem then.

Kil, when you mentioned that you didn't want disussion, I find that odd, because I was thinking that any discusion helps the town, like SL said.

FOS: Killmenator

Your actions recently have looked a little off, but I think you may just need to clear your thoughts a little. There have been a few misunderstandings recently and you are quite confused so I'm willing to put it aside as a couple of mistakes so I'm not voting you yet.

Ozymandius · Post Post #242 (isolation #17) » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:50 am

I was FOSing Kilmenator because I want Kilmenator to clear her thoughts. I will retract it when she does so. I have no real intention of voting her at this point. Her actions have been a bit odd.

Actually I did not see Kil's answer for why SL was sticking up for turbo, which weighted a bit on my FOS, but the problem is, Kil did not push for discussion. The way I see it, even a little bit of useless discussion can help bring out scum. The more people talk, the greater chance we can possibly see scum slipping up. So I stand by my FOS for now. I realize that there was confusion, but I would recomend to Kil to make sure which game you are posting in as to avoid confusion because it does us no good to here about players who are not even in this game. Also, if you say stuff about other players in your posts, I don't know if we can be sure that your posts about people are about this game.

That being said, I'm willing to believe that this is just an honest mistake and I certainly do not recoment lynching Kil at this point in time. I want her to clear her thoughts before she posts, or she'll confuse everyone, and that is not helpful.

Ozymandius · Post Post #255 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:42 am

Kilmenator wrote: i didnt put them at three because i find the discussion of a third vote useless

geraintm wrote:Ozy, you filled your post with too much filler. Pointing out that more talk is good is just worthless, everyone knows that. Kil already said they were going to reread and repost and asked for time, but you FOSed within a few hours.

Kilmenator was saying disscusion was useless. I was merely trying to point that out. Because everyone knows that more talk is good, right?

I didn't know you felt so strongly about an FOS...

I'm not saying we should lynch her now. My goal was just to let her know that I think she should do a bit more thinking before she posts to avoid confusion. I was and still am quite willing to give her plenty of time to work out anything that has caused confusion.

Ozymandius · Post Post #266 (isolation #19) » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:46 am

I'm sorry, I'm here, I've just been without power for a few days. I'm happy with Kilmenator's response now. If she's not going to mix anything up anymore, I'm fine. I don't find Kil that scummy anymore. Discusing breakfast is clearly irrelevent, I know. Breakfast is not part of a mafia game. Voting is. I thought that there may have been some direction to it, but I guess I was wrong.

Ozymandius · Post Post #274 (isolation #20) » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:38 pm

Turbovolver wrote:Also please address my points against you.

I'll do my best. If I miss somthing, do not hesitate to elaborate on what you want me explain so I can try to clear myself.

Turbovolver wrote:
Ozymandius wrote:
Kilmenator wrote: i didnt put them at three because i find the discussion of a third vote useless
Kilmenator was saying disscusion was useless. I was merely trying to point that out. Because everyone knows that more talk is good, right?
Actually discussion of third votes usually is pretty much useless. If Kilmenator said "I don't want to discuss what I had for breakfast", would you also call that "saying discussion was useless"?

You're actually misrepresenting here.

This is what I was trying to explain in my last post. I was going off the idea that discussion was helpful for town. That's all I was thinking in that regard.

Turbovolver wrote:
Ozymandius wrote:I didn't know you felt so strongly about an FOS...
Scum tell.

I see now that this kind of comment of mine does not help me look good. Noted for future reference.

Turbovolver wrote:
Ozymandius wrote:I'm not saying we should lynch her now. My goal was just to let her know that I think she should do a bit more thinking before she posts to avoid confusion. I was and still am quite willing to give her plenty of time to work out anything that has caused confusion.
Well, OK then. Very "don't look hard at me" posting.

I'm not clear as to what exactly this means.

Okay, if there's anything else that I haven't gotten to, I'll be happy to reply.

Ozymandius · Post Post #281 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:17 am

My comment was half sarcastic. It was taken as scummy by you. That is not helpful to me, because I am town. That only adds to the fact that you found my Fos to be scummy and poorly founded in the first place.

And I'm not trying to appear townie, I'm trying to prove my inocence. I made a mistake by saying that comment that turbo (and others) find scummy.

Ozymandius · Post Post #285 (isolation #22) » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:35 pm

Turbovolver wrote:
Ozymandius wrote:My comment was half sarcastic. It was taken as scummy by you. That is not helpful to me, because I am town. That only adds to the fact that you found my Fos to be scummy and poorly founded in the first place.
Well, it was a crappy FOS. You cant just say "discussion is good for town", because a lot of discussion
isn't
. I can give examples if necessary.

Also, stretching "I don't want to discuss X" to "I don't want to discuss" is still misrepresentation.

I've heard that discussion is good for town. I'll admit now I'm a little fuzzy on exactly what is.

Ozymandius wrote: Kilmenator was saying disscusion was useless. I was merely trying to point that out.

I see what you're saying. I didn't notice that. I meant that Kilmenator was saying that a form of disscusion was useless. I didn't intend to put it that vaugely.

Turbovolver wrote: Also to explain this comment:

Turbovolver wrote:
Ozymandius wrote:I'm not saying we should lynch her now. My goal was just to let her know that I think she should do a bit more thinking before she posts to avoid confusion. I was and still am quite willing to give her plenty of time to work out anything that has caused confusion.
Well, OK then. Very "don't look hard at me" posting.
It's just a feeling I get reading through the quoted text of yours. It seems to be "over-explaining".

I think I understand what you're saying. The idea was that I didn't want the whole thing to blow up, and did not expect it to, and instead it looks like that idea has helped fuel the fire.

So you're saying the "I see you make a big deal out of FOS..." comment was half-sarcastic.

1) You said you understand why it's scummy. You still haven't explained why.

2) Calling it half-sarcastic could easily be an attempt to absolve yourself of those words, but I guess that just comes down to whether you can be trusted or not.

1) Why don't you explain why it is scummy? You're the one who called it a scum tell. I'm just going off that.

2) Those words were not intended to be so serious. I'm not trying to absolve myself of those words, I didn't expect them to be made into somthing bigger than they were.[/quote]

Ozymandius · Post Post #288 (isolation #23) » Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:18 am

I never directly said it was scummy. I said it was not doing me any good. This is because I was coming under fire for it.

Ozymandius wrote:My comment was half sarcastic. It was taken as scummy by you. That is not helpful to me, because I am town. That only adds to the fact that you found my Fos to be scummy and poorly founded in the first place.

Turbovolver wrote: 1) You said you understand why it's scummy. You still haven't explained why.

I also said you called it a scum tell. I said that you found it to be scummy. To be honest I don't really know why it is a scum tell. I know now that it didn't help me.

Don't put words in my mouth, please.

Ozymandius · Post Post #299 (isolation #24) » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:44 pm

I request that the deadline be pushed back as well. I'm going to be busy for a while, and I'll need to read through the game a bit more, which is somthing that I may not have time to do by the current deadline.

Ozymandius · Post Post #309 (isolation #25) » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:00 pm

My "scumdar" so to speak is not perfect, but I'll see what I can do. I am even more confused than I was before. Some players I'm liking for scum at the moment:

Rosso, his play style confuses and annoys me. I'm not getting a read on what he's trying to do. I think he has completely dissapeared from Mafiascum however... his last post being the one in which he votes kilmenator and says that that works.

ShadowLurker: After the reread, I understand more about his posts generating discussion. However, I don't see how a whole lot of it is useful. I don't quite see how "WTF" will get us closer to finding scum.

Falcone/Adele: Falcone produced a false dilemma, which I am not liking. Even if the reasons were the only two in his mind, that doesn't mean that there aren't other options, no mater how unlikely they are. And he seemed to present them as the only two possibilities. Plus, we haven't heard much from Adele, which I am not liking as well.

I also think Friday is not in the clear but I don't have much more time to delve into it now.

On another angle, I was thinking that knowing Mert as scum could help draw some conclusions using connections, which is probably not hard to think of.

Patrick voted Mert, Mert voted Turbo, Mert got "Bad Coined" by Rosso, and pretty much fades away before being modkilled. One thing I found odd is that kilmenator mentions that Rosso is voted by Mert... which did not happen.
I don't have a whole lot of time to think on this angle, so I'll try to go into this deeper later.

So here's how I will stand now:

Vote Adele

For reasons listed above. I also really want to hear from her.

Ozymandius · Post Post #311 (isolation #26) » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:30 am

That's okay, just somthing I noticed. Yeah, that bad coin thing is... weird. I think it's an FOS only Rosso Carne style.

Ozymandius · Post Post #315 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:34 am

What? You're basing your vote on a scumchat game?!?!?!?!?!! I can see some of the similarities in a scum chat game, but not enough to be inherently useful. Those games are crazy, fast paced, have little to work with, and have extreme roles, or as far as I've see. I'm telling you, scumchat games =/= ms regarding my gameplay.

Ozymandius · Post Post #316 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:25 am

Sorry to double post, but I couldn't sleep, and I had an itch that needed scratching:

unvote Vote Shadowlurker

Ahh that sounds right...

If you defeat me, you STILL won't beat me! Beware the flood! -Belome

Wushhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

Ozymandius · Post Post #332 (isolation #29) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:05 pm

geraintm wrote:Just checking in quickly, sorry not been around much over the holiday period.
Re Ozy - (this is my first game outside a newbie game, so excuse the silly question) why the push towards a claim now though, ozy has been on 4 votes, enough to get him lynched if we go to a deadline, for ages. If Ozy had felt under threat wouldn't he have mentioned a role earlier?

I wasn't sure if a claim was nessecary at that point, and I didn't think claiming would help me if I was not asked to claim. I've seen someone have problems when they claimed prematurely. I also realize that your question was before the deadline, and I was likely to be lynched soon, but now the deadline has been extended again. It's a valid question though, the way I see it. I'll claim if more people want me to, which I expect is the case, but I want to hear it.

I really think Rosso is MIA, but I suppose we can wait a bit longer since it is New Year's Day.

Happy 2007 everyone!

Ozymandius · Post Post #349 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:11 am

I third the request to replace Rosso ASAP, although I suppose that's pretty unnessecary at the moment.

I'm not sure what to make of this geraintm - patrick -fair lynch deal

gotta go more later.

Ozymandius · Post Post #363 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:45 pm

Hmmm... Adele and Kil want me to claim, and gerantim does not.
Patrick also said that a claim should be as a last line of defense. Damn. I gotta go again. I'll be back though in probably a little over an hour to complete my thoughts, sorry.

Ozymandius · Post Post #364 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:25 pm

Alright, here we go. I'm still sketchy about claiming. With my current votes, I am not at lynch -1, but if nothing changes, I'll be lynched by the deadline. I will claim soon if nothing changes. If I get at 5 votes, or others ask me to claim, I will do so sooner.

I don't think geraint is particularly scummy at this point. I don't happen to like the lurking/dissapearing that this game has been plauged with. Personally I'd like to hear from others, but it looks like there may not be anyone else to speak at this point. Gee...

I don't know what to think about Patrick at this point. I'm trying to get a read on him...

Arg... I'm so stupid. I just almost tried to translate Patrick's avatar from Greek... *smacks head* Sorry, that's unrelated.

Ozymandius · Post Post #371 (isolation #33) » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:56 pm

Patrick, I realized what your Avatar was, and I find it clever.

Turbovolver wrote:
Ozymandius wrote:Arg... I'm so stupid. I just almost tried to translate Patrick's avatar from Greek... *smacks head* Sorry, that's unrelated.
This seems really fake, like it was included just to inspire sympathy.

The thing was unrelated to everything. I don't see how it would inspire sympathy. I don't need your sympathy anyway because I am Unlynchable.

claim: Unlynchable Townie

Basically, I cannot be lynched, but I had hoped I would not have had to claim this on day one. But I am at lynch -1 and am automatically "lynched" at the deadline. If this so happens, I will not be killed and night will ensue.

Ozymandius · Post Post #391 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:06 am

kilmenator wrote: I have not yet reread to see who got the bandwagon on ozy yet,

For the record:

Mr. Modguy wrote: 6 - Ozymandius (Turbovolver, Patrick, Adele, ShadowLurker, MrBuddyLee, geraintm)

Those on the Ozy-wagon. That's all for now.

Ozymandius · Post Post #393 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:14 pm

My bad, I misread it. I see it now.

Ozymandius · Post Post #419 (isolation #36) » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:57 pm

ShadowLurker wrote:I support a mass claim today. I'll go first.

Nanyate??!?!??!

It means "What was that?" In Japanese... A phrase which expresses surprise.

At least I think so... I got it from a Japanese TV show, in which this phrase was part of a plot point, however, it's possible that I got the phrase wrong, or that the translation was not quite exact.

The point I'm trying to make with this, is that I'm not quite sure whether a mass claim is nessecary at this point... However, I started typing this after only having read page 16, without reading page 17... so are my thoughts changed after reading page 17????

It sheds new light, by my opinion on mass role claim is not actually changed. So it looks like we've got a daycop, a claim which actually came on D1 it appears. One person (Klebian) hasn't posted much, and geraintm who hasn't check in D2. Both appear on SL's 3rd list. I'd like to hear from them actually. Although in Klebian's case, whatever time he needs is fine. It may be somewhat safe to assume that SL is telling the truth, however, I don't think that people should discount the possibility of sanity and/or millers. That's about it for right now.

Ozymandius · Post Post #431 (isolation #37) » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:29 am

Nanyate?!?!?! You want to attempt to lynch me... again? Ohhh I see... You want to lynch me right now, to bring the day into night, then have cops investigate into the night. I didn't quite understand that at first. For a second there, I thought you were trying to kill me... like yesterday... I think it shortens the day, and the chance for disscusion. If there are innocent results we may not have too much to go on later. Plus, just because there was no night kill doesn't mean that there can't be more than one night kill. I think that this mass role claim idea is an important thing to think about whether or not it is implemented, speaking of which...

I suppose I wasn't quite clear, maybe more thinking aloud before, but I am objecting to a mass claim at this point. SL's enthusiasm for one is interesting, but I'm not sure that the idea is nessecary, or helpful at this point in time, plus I certainly didn't see a consensus anyway. The lack of respose isn't nessesarally a thumbs up. Turbo has not mentioned his thoughts on this subject, and he doesn't strike me as someone who would have difficulty voicing his opinions.

Ozymandius · Post Post #447 (isolation #38) » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:40 pm

ShadowLurker, is a vote on Klebian where the Geraintm vote led to?

Ozymandius · Post Post #449 (isolation #39) » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:03 am

Tommorow, wow, you seem pretty confident. The pressure thing is true, but why the pressure on Klebian?

Ozymandius · Post Post #457 (isolation #40) » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:07 pm

ShadowLurker wrote:
Ozymandius wrote:Tommorow, wow, you seem pretty confident. The pressure thing is true, but why the pressure on Klebian?
Please suggest an alternative and I'll gladly look into it.

I'm not saying that it's a good or bad move. I'm wondering what your reasoning on the putting pressure on Klebian. Turbo's reasoning was lacking, but as you said, a single vote means no pressure, but you decided to put a little more pressure on Klebian. I want to know why and whether or not you have a different reasoning besides Turbo's word.

Ozymandius · Post Post #458 (isolation #41) » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:07 pm

ShadowLurker wrote:
Ozymandius wrote:Tommorow, wow, you seem pretty confident. The pressure thing is true, but why the pressure on Klebian?
Please suggest an alternative and I'll gladly look into it.

I'm not saying that it's a good or bad move. I'm wondering what your reasoning on the putting pressure on Klebian. Turbo's reasoning was lacking, but as you said, a single vote means no pressure, but you decided to put a little more pressure on Klebian. I want to know why and whether or not you have a different reasoning besides Turbo's word.

Ozymandius · Post Post #460 (isolation #42) » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:09 pm

Sorry for that double post, the forum said that it failed, so I tried again, but didn't realize that it actually worked.

Ozymandius · Post Post #491 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:16 pm

I'm sorry everyone, but I am requesting to be replaced. I have some things that I need to deal with and I cannot be active in this mafia game at this time.